Okay, you and Level clearly are not living in the same reality as the rest of the world.Why not? His policies are what actually matters, where they come from is irrelevant, some of the worst policies in the world come from the best of intentions, after all we all know what the road to hell is paved with.
So you have never said you would kill someone and then not do it?
Show me unequivocally racist policy decisions of his
citation needed
All I asked from you was one supporting example of your assertion and all I get is insults and questioning my sense of reality.Okay, you and Level clearly are not living in the same reality as the rest of the world.
Being an apologist to a president who idolizes despots, fancies himself as a dictator, and whose actions (including speech) are right out of the Authoritarian Playbook makes you every bit as culpable.
But I'm sure he will make the trains run on time.
I would be dying in an actual concentration camp but you know whatever furthers your argument I guess...By the way, if you ever wanted to know what you would have done in interwar Germany
All I asked from you was one supporting example of your assertion and all I get is insults and questioning my sense of reality.
I would be dying in an actual concentration camp but you know whatever furthers your argument I guess...
It doesn’t meet the legal definition of action either but then it wouldn’t fit your narrative to acknowledge the chasm between speech and action.Because there is no convincing you of reality. You are standing on the argument that speech cannot, under any circumstances, be racist because it doesn't fit your arbitrary definition of "action".
What actual racists things has he done, not said actually done
The best, I think, is to laugh about it; not sneeringly, not aggressively, not histerically, but wholeheartedly, treating those things for what they are: manifestations of stupidity.
That’s a fair point.You are very short sighted if you think what someone in power says doesn't filter down and becomes actions by others, namely his followers.
That’s actually rather tricky, legally most likely not since there is no clear call to action.This stupid logic is like saying, if he ever said something like "I think it'd be fine if someone killed AOC" and the next day someone else did, you'd say Trump had no responsibility at all?
Actually no you can’t, even in your scenario I’d get detained and investigated by the SS. The only way i’d be going to prison (it would be a federal crime so prison not jail) is if there was evidence that I had made preparations to carry out my threat.You can go to jail for saying things. If you don't believe me run up to a cop and tell him you're planning on killing the president and overthrowing the government, let me know how it goes.
Actually no you can’t, even in your scenario I’d get detained and investigated by the SS. The only way i’d be going to prison (it would be a federal crime so prison not jail) is if there was evidence that I had made preparations to carry out my threat.
This thread is getting dumber and dumber by the day. All I'm going to add is that we should be ashamed that anyone from "the squad" managed to get elected - they're the true despicable, ignorant, commie racists.
Stop tagging me in this dumpster fire of a thread.
I wasn’t calling you out on not knowing a difference between prison and jail, only explained why I used one term over the other. Apologies if that wasn’t clear.Oh I'm sorry I wasn't as clear as to differentiate detention, prison and jail. English is my 3rd language so excuse me. Portuguese and Spanish are available if you wish for me to be more specific in the next post?
You can get in trouble for simply being somewhere, that’s not much of an argument. What you say matters but then “talk is cheap” and “actions speak louder than words” is something that exists in our culture as well.Does this disprove what I say? You can get in trouble for what you say. What you say matters. If it didn't, society would collapse.
You can get in trouble for simply being somewhere, that’s not much of an argument. What you say matters but then “talk is cheap” and “actions speak louder than words” is something that exists in our culture as well.
I never said he was a good leader, or that I want(ed) him to be one, I am simply saying that if he is racist he doesn’t seem to go beyond talk.So you want to say what Trump says doesn't matter cos his talk is cheap? Is that the kind of sign you want from the leader of a country?
I never said he was a good leader, or that I want(ed) him to be one, I am simply saying that if he is racist he doesn’t seem to go beyond talk.
So he might have done something racist (remember he never had to admit discrimination so we can't know for sure) 46 years ago, and from then on it's been nothing but talk. Again what has he done as POTUS that is legitimately racist other than talk?
Yes you are correct, we should not do anything to people who simply talk, it's one of the cornerstones of American culture and political system.So I guess we shouldn't do anything at all about someone who 'just talks' about diddling little kids or murdering single women for fun... just talk. Talk never hurt anyone did it.
So people have no faculties now and go with whatever they are told? Speech can inspire but actions are up to the actor, this is why "we were just following orders" defense didn't work for a bunch of Hugo Boss wearing war criminals.Talk never inspired anyone to commit any crime, ever. /s
Yes you are correct, we should not do anything to people who simply talk, it's one of the cornerstones of American culture and political system.
So he might have done something racist (remember he never had to admit discrimination so we can't know for sure) 46 years ago, and from then on it's been nothing but talk. Again what has he done as POTUS that is legitimately racist other than talk?
I have flipped off cops and said fuck the police to them before, never even been arrested I suggest not talking about shit you don't know about.You would never put your money where your mouth is.
is a threat and would be investigated.will blow up everyone here right now.
might get you kicked of the mall, which is typically private property, but there would be 0 legal consequences.Death to America
If you mean liable in the sense that people will look at you a certain way based on how you speak, then no shit, if you are talking about legal liability, which is what I think we are talking about, then only in some very specific cases.You are absolutely liable for your words as much as you are for your actions.
Yes ordering someone to do something illegal is illegal, that's different from your examples of "someone talking about diddling kids" or "killing women"The latter probably never pulled the trigger or poured the gas pellets themselves, just said words. And wouldn't you guess, words were enough to make them criminals.
No I am questioning your evidence as it is extremely lacking. I specifically asked for evidence of him doing something racist rather than saying and that entire list has at best one questionable example.I knew when pushed you would rationalise, trivialise, and defend him once again.
You must not read very well (third language and all I guess), I have stated multiple times already that if he is a racist (though I would say his more bigoted or xenophobic than specifically racist but that's splitting hairs) he doesn't seem to act on those beliefs. So sure you can sayBy your logic, if I say out loud "Black people are inferior to white people" I'm not racist, since I didn't do anything, "I just said it".
but if you never act on it does it actually matter that you think that?Black people are inferior to white people"