The Trump Presidency - how I stopped worrying and learned to love the Hair

GRtak said:
Who decides who is sane? Who determines if that person(s) is sane?

Just admit it is not sanity that you are looking for, you only want to talk to those that agree with you 80 or 90 % of the time.
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Declaring those who dare to oppose them mentally ill is a common practice among authoritarian regimes. The use of terms such as “Trump Derangement Syndrome” is a pretty good indication that someone may not be all that much in favour of democracy.

Regimes that use(d) this practice include the Soviet Union and Communist China. Here’s one victim’s story:

In the grip of the Ankang
 
LeVeL said:
No you're not - you just get bogged down in demagoguery... like this:

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The only proper response to any action targeting anti-Semitism is "great, well done!" and not "oh yeah? BUT ORANGE MAN IS STILL BAD!" which is what you basically did.



Oh look, another idiotic Trump/Hitler comparison. How original.

No, it doesn't bother me at all. Trump has been a big support of Jews and of Israel.
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For the record, it's you, not I, who is thinking of what I typed as a Trump/Hitler comparison.

I mentioned what I did in order to clearly state what it means for Jews to be considered as a race, color, or nationality, and to give an example of the dangers therein.

Trump's executive order sets a precedent that could easily be used to prove that Jews are not Americans. A president who follows Trump could throw out this order, or they could use it to justify the unthinkable.

In closing, I don't think that Trump would come out to incite a pogrom against Jews, especially when you consider that his daughter, son-in-law, and grandchildren are Jewish. However, his comments after Charlottesville have already proven that he also won't come out against white nationalists.
 
LeVeL said:
No you're not - you just get bogged down in demagoguery... like this:

:roll:





The only proper response to any action targeting anti-Semitism is "great, well done!" and not "oh yeah? BUT ORANGE MAN IS STILL BAD!" which is what you basically did.



Oh look, another idiotic Trump/Hitler comparison. How original.

No, it doesn't bother me at all. Trump has been a big support of Jews and of Israel.
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Calling me a demagogue doesn't help your case.


calvinhobbes said:
Declaring those who dare to oppose them mentally ill is a common practice among authoritarian regimes. The use of terms such as “Trump Derangement Syndrome” is a pretty good indication that someone may not be all that much in favour of democracy.

Regimes that use(d) this practice include the Soviet Union and Communist China. Here’s one victim’s story:

In the grip of the Ankang
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If Level had anything to say about it, many of us would be in "re-education" camps.
 


 
LeVeL said:
Nah, I'm not a socialist.
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No, you're way closer to being a fascist - including your fear of anything you decide is "socialist".
 
You support a president who has openly expressed sympathy and support for dictators, who put children in concentration camps and denied them access to medical care, has expressed nationalistic ideology, has invited hostile nations to subvert democracy for personal gain, attacked the free press for not agreeing to run his propaganda, equated himself to the state, and who has called Nazis "fine people".

You oppose free trade, you oppose the free movement of people - you are "libertarian" when it suits you, but not when someone else wants to use that lack of regulation in a way you don't like. "One law for me, another for thee".

So I call it like I see it.
 
Trump said "There were fine people on both sides" when the guy drove the Chllenger into the crowd in North Carolina(?). One of those sides was made up of white supremacists of various ideologies, including Nazis.
 
You've been very supportive of Trump's use of tarrifs, that's not free trade.

Are you really demanding a citation after participating in pages upon pages of discussion about this? I'm not playing this game again.
 
Initial statement.

Double down.

Then, after being killed in the media, he made a half-assed disingenuous condemnation.
 
LeVeL said:
He explicitly condemned white supremacists. He was also very clear that "fine people" were those who protested both for and against the removal of a statue. Watch the actual clip instead of blindly believing the fake news.



I have? That's news to me. I'm fairly certain I haven't really weighed in on tariffs, other than expressing hope that the trade war with China ends well for us.
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How is it fake news? He said it, you just admitted he did but added an addendum. He can't have it both ways.

I will also remind you that a large part of that group marched with tiki torches while changing "Jews will not replace us". Explain to me why they are good people.
 
Shhh, don't antagonize him with facts. I'm not sure how many more ragequits he has left on the punch card.
 
LeVeL said:
Are you not embarrassed to publicly misuse words that you clearly don't understand? You just called a libertarian a fascist - try opening a dictionary next time you want to use CNN buzzwords.
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The CCP also calls it the “People’s Republic of China”. That doesn’t mean it’s of and for the people, let alone a republic.

You can call yourself anything you like, but the content of your posts gives the real picture and that is deeply disturbing.
 
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