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To be fair the 1000+hp Supras tend to be laggy as a motherfucker so if you are not flooring the shit out of them everywhere they drive like a regular car.
 

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To be fair the 1000+hp Supras tend to be laggy as a motherfucker so if you are not flooring the shit out of them everywhere they drive like a regular car.
Yes, which is why they are surprisingly good at being street cars and commuters - and more than a few MkIVs are used that way.
 

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To be fair the 1000+hp Supras tend to be laggy as a motherfucker so if you are not flooring the shit out of them everywhere they drive like a regular car.
Exactly, the one in the video getting disassembled it going on a drift car, so hardly a street car.

We'll see. I have no horse(power) in that race, I merely wanted to point out that making big power is just ONE aspect of a good engine.
 

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It's not like people haven't tuned BMW's 6 cyl turbo engines since the N54 came out ...
 

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I can pretty much guarantee that the N54 isn't nearly as overbuilt as the 2J was, if for no other reason is that CAD software is really good at doing virtual testing. So there is simply no reason to overbuild, when you can save money by building to to spec +25%
 

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You're correct, but people on the internetz are always talking like the 2JZ does these kinda power figures forever on stock internals and everything... which it doesn't
 

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You're correct, but people on the internetz are always talking like the 2JZ does these kinda power figures forever on stock internals and everything... which it doesn't
The 2JZ can do ridiculous numbers on stock internals and last, but the upper limit for that is around 800 the last time I looked - which was several years ago.
 
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Yes, 800 is what I know aswell. But 800 isn't 1500 or similar, and the N54 and it's predecessors can run about double their stock hrsprs
 

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Yes, 800 is what I know aswell. But 800 isn't 1500 or similar, and the N54 and it's predecessors can run about double their stock hrsprs
The number I remember seeing for the N54 in US use seems to be around 600rwhp before the internals explode. 800rwhp > 600rwhp.

Soo....
 

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Looks surprisingly good to me.
 
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