S2000 as well, but I still dislike that trend. I basically dislike electronics in my driveline components, I'm not a fan of of TBW or VDC/ESP/TCS etc.. I'll give you an example of a car I actually like, my Z, it has TBW and as far as I can tell there is no lag in the response but it's not linear. Butt dyno is not the most accurate measurement but far as I can tell I get full throttle at about 75% of pedal travel. Or another one, despite having a vLSD I have EDLs* that I cannot turn off**, which makes no sense whatsoever to me since there is already a mechanical device doing the work.The RX-8 and to Toyaburus are two examples of vehicles with electric power steering that are praised for their handling. Plus it's one less fluid to leak
Yes, each decade has both good looking and bad looking cars, but the 50's and 60's had a better ratio of good-to-bad. Even vans, family cars, wagons, pick-ups, were beautiful things to look at. Once the environmentalists and health&safety folks teamed up and set out to destroy the heart and soul of automobiles, things were never so good. Back in the day they could design whatever they wanted with complete disregard to safety or pollution. Every time one of those Top 10 Most Beautiful Cars Of All Time lists come out, they are dominated with cars from the 50's and 60's, with maybe a car or two from the very early 70's. I'd say there were more probably beautiful cars in 1969 alone then in the 2 decades that followed. :lol:TC,
That's very strange thinking there, every decade produced great looking cars and ugly cars. Also despite the "freedom" you are talking about there are plenty of very specific design characteristics that are found in 60's cars (hence being able to say that a car is from the 60's). That's true for every decade though, and there are also plenty of ugly cars from each decade.
This is of course all opinion based but I'm not really sure why you think that a 90's car would be a compromise between looks and reliability (not all of them were all that reliable mind you, DSM comes to mind) there are plenty of 90's cars that are beautiful in their own right and are also known to be great to drive (NSX and RX-7 are my go-tos)
i'm ashamed to admit, that when i get in an older car, i miss the BT, automatic AC, central locking, automatic lights & wipers, ...If one thing was in their favour I'd say I'd rather have a 90s car than a newer one as they tend to be lighter and prettier and there is no doubt they are more reliable and drive better than their predecessors, I just don't find them interesting.
This depends on how you look at it. Modern cars might drive better in the way that they are faster, easier and safer. But not necessarily in a enjoyment kind of way, not even when you are talking about supercars. Electronic driving aids and electronic power steering has made cars more dull to drive. Even turning all the aids off (if you can) might not help if the car is designed to work with the aids on.not as good to drive as newer cars.
I partly agree with this. Designers had free reign to do what they want, even some times resulting design that made the car not work properly! However a lot of 50s and 60s cars looking good has to do with them being the right kind of old. They are not yet that old they seem weird and obsolete (like 40s and earlier cars these days), but they are old enough that you get nostalgic about them. I am pretty sure if you had asked someone in the 80s if the 60s cars were the most beautiful cars ever they would have said no, they were just old cars back then. And it will continue like this, people are already pretty nostalgic about 80s cars and 90s cars will eventually follow.Yes, each decade has both good looking and bad looking cars, but the 50's and 60's had a better ratio of good-to-bad. Even vans, family cars, wagons, pick-ups, were beautiful things to look at.
I honestly know of very few people (one really) who like 80's cars in general or at the very least have the majority of cars they want be from the 80's. I think the 80's were too much of a transitional period for the cars to be desirable. It's not to say that 80's cars aren't desirable there are a few that are as with every decade (Testarossa for example) but they are not 60's desirable.And it will continue like this, people are already pretty nostalgic about 80s cars and 90s cars will eventually follow.
Which in turn was built off the short wheelbase XJ sedan of 1968....followed by an XKR, both of which were based on the XJS platform.