GTR at El Toro

jnelcar · April 5th, 2008, 8:21 PM

If El Toro is the location for Gear, then this video from Motor Trend magazine is a nice preview of the facility.

http://www.motortrend.com/av/roadtes...t_first_drive/

The base definitely has some wide open spaces.

Prost264 · April 5th, 2008, 9:30 PM

Scenery is much nicer than Dunsfold. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Viper007Bond · April 6th, 2008, 1:31 AM

Great video and looks to be an excellent place for Gear. There sure is a lot more runway.

Dunno how length wise they compare though.

Crazyjeeper · April 6th, 2008, 3:40 AM

El Toro has 10,000 foot runways, so just under 2 miles, I think dunsfold's longest is 1.6 miles.

Ottobon · April 6th, 2008, 10:01 PM

514hp, lolz GTR is such a goofy car images/smilies/love.gif

kellonwheels · April 6th, 2008, 11:20 PM

Thanks for sharing the clip so we could get a preview of the facility.

A bit OT - That clip reminds me why I am a fan of TG. Motor Trend somehow made the video testing of a 'supercar' about the most boring thing I've seen in a week. I nearly fell asleep. I can watch TG do a segment on the VW Lupo and be entertained enough to want to see it again. MT...not so much. images/smilies/sad.gif

MattD1zzl3 · April 7th, 2008, 12:21 AM

I thought it was actually really well made and interesting.

Sure they didnt race it against a tamed giraffe or something, but they did something that TG rarely manages in recent times: They reviewed the car.

And for the love of god, stop calling it a supercar. (Although unlike most people i dont consider a 997T a supercar either, just a really bad-ass sports car images/smilies/smile.gif

)

GusinCA · April 7th, 2008, 4:52 AM

I dunno, if it can keep up with a supercar, maybe it's a supercar?
My favorite is still the little Ariel Atom...

MattD1zzl3 · April 7th, 2008, 6:03 PM

My >$2000 camaro is faster (in a straight line at least) then a ferrari 355/360, so you're calling it a supercar? images/smilies/lol.gif

tedb43o2o3 · April 7th, 2008, 10:15 PM

Man I hope Gear will be film at El Toro, because its close to where I live images/smilies/smile.gif

kellonwheels · April 11th, 2008, 2:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattD1zzl3

I thought it was actually really well made and interesting.

Sure they didnt race it against a tamed giraffe or something, but they did something that TG rarely manages in recent times: They reviewed the car.

And for the love of god, stop calling it a supercar. (Although unlike most people i dont consider a 997T a supercar either, just a really bad-ass sports car images/smilies/smile.gif

)

Agree w/you on the supercar part. That's why I put it in quotes above.

Disagree on the video, though. It was all fact and no fun. I know the GTR is going to be fast. I don't need a review to know that. Top Gear always has an entertaining way to put that performance into perspective - like racing it against a tamed giraffe. images/smilies/tongue.gif

superchevy · April 11th, 2008, 10:24 AM

well, that's like criticizing a drama for not being funny. most american automotive shows and magazines focus primarily on the technical aspects of automotives. top gear uk's perogative seems to mostly be about entertainment. they obviously don't worry too much about actually checking their "facts", and are really only concerned with shock value and laughs.

as for putting "performance into perspective", how useful is it really to know if an exige can avoid being locked on by an apache's weapons system? sure, it's fun to watch, but is that really going to help you decide on a purchase if you are in the market? i hope not.

when i want to know the proper torque rating for a specifc bolt on a specific part, i read rod & customs or watch "the power block" on spike tv. when i want to see a cow carcass strapped to the top of a 3rd gen camaro, i watch top gear. simple as that. nothing wrong with either approach.

MattD1zzl3 · April 12th, 2008, 5:33 PM

Top gear is the jerry springer of the automotive world, wheras motor trend is 60 minutes.

superchevy · April 13th, 2008, 4:33 AM

that's a pretty good way of summing it up, but i would say top gear is more like the daily show or the colbert report, and motor trend et al. are like 60 minutes.

bluemoose · April 14th, 2008, 4:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattD1zzl3

My >$2000 camaro is faster (in a straight line at least) then a ferrari 355/360, so you're calling it a supercar? images/smilies/lol.gif

my definition of a supercar is any car that will get you laid, over and over and over...
with many different women from around the world...

(or have goofy teenagers chasing after you in their civics and TSXs, trying to take
pictures of your car with their cell phone cameras)

I don't think the GTR fits that description... although it is one amazing car! images/smilies/smile.gif

MattD1zzl3 · April 14th, 2008, 4:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superchevy

that's a pretty good way of summing it up, but i would say top gear is more like the daily show or the colbert report, and motor trend et al. are like 60 minutes.

Top gear isnt smart enough to be those shows, its pure mindless fun, those shows have satire and subtlety, top gear blows things up and shouts.

Its jerry springer.

Komeuppance · April 16th, 2008, 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluemoose

my definition of a supercar is any car that will get you laid, over and over and over...
with many different women from around the world...

(or have goofy teenagers chasing after you in their civics and TSXs, trying to take
pictures of your car with their cell phone cameras)

I don't think the GTR fits that description... although it is one amazing car! images/smilies/smile.gif

Goofy teenagers WILL follow you around in thier civics and RSXs, trying to take a pics of one and then trying to race you.

It also a shiny, fast machine, with leather seats and costs 70k (I don't know how much its supposed to cost, so I estimated) That alone will get you laid easily.

-Robert

janstett · April 20th, 2008, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kellonwheels

Thanks for sharing the clip so we could get a preview of the facility.

A bit OT - That clip reminds me why I am a fan of TG. Motor Trend somehow made the video testing of a 'supercar' about the most boring thing I've seen in a week. I nearly fell asleep. I can watch TG do a segment on the VW Lupo and be entertained enough to want to see it again. MT...not so much. images/smilies/sad.gif

Absolutely! MT might as well have been reviewing a washing machine or a space heater, the review wouldn't have been much different. These guys get jaded and don't convey any of the excitement of driving the car to the reader/viewer.

janstett · April 20th, 2008, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluemoose

my definition of a supercar is any car that will get you laid, over and over and over...
with many different women from around the world...

(or have goofy teenagers chasing after you in their civics and TSXs, trying to take
pictures of your car with their cell phone cameras)

I don't think the GTR fits that description... although it is one amazing car! images/smilies/smile.gif

Are you kidding me? Gen-Y'ers think the Skyline/GT-R is the bestest car evar!!!1! Playstation told them so. We're talking about the Evo/WRX generation.

April 5th, 2008, 8:21 PM	#1
jnelcar Joined: Jul 15th, 2007 Last Online: October 24th, 2009 Location: NE MO USA Posts: 15 Car: 1971 Chevrolet Corvette, 1986 Monte Carlo SS Rep Power: 0	GTR at El Toro If El Toro is the location for Gear, then this video from Motor Trend magazine is a nice preview of the facility. http://www.motortrend.com/av/roadtes...t_first_drive/ The base definitely has some wide open spaces.

April 6th, 2008, 1:31 AM	#3
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 12:33 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,182 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 292	Great video and looks to be an excellent place for Gear. There sure is a lot more runway. Dunno how length wise they compare though. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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Crazyjeeper Joined: Nov 29th, 2006 Last Online: 12:57 AM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 20 Posts: 4,985 Car: 1985 Jeep CJ7, 1997 Ford F150 Rep Power: 155	El Toro has 10,000 foot runways, so just under 2 miles, I think dunsfold's longest is 1.6 miles. __________________

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kellonwheels Joined: Dec 6th, 2005 Last Online: August 27th, 2008 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for sharing the clip so we could get a preview of the facility. A bit OT - That clip reminds me why I am a fan of TG. Motor Trend somehow made the video testing of a 'supercar' about the most boring thing I've seen in a week. I nearly fell asleep. I can watch TG do a segment on the VW Lupo and be entertained enough to want to see it again. MT...not so much. __________________ I have no idea what's going on.

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tedb43o2o3 Joined: Jun 6th, 2006 Last Online: 2:31 AM Location: Irvine, CA, USA Posts: 744 Car: 2005 Toyota 4Runner (Parents car...) Rep Power: 20	Man I hope Gear will be film at El Toro, because its close to where I live __________________

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Prost264 Joined: Jun 30th, 2006 Last Online: 3:35 AM Location: Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia Age: 21 Posts: 2,603 Car: Mach 5 Rep Power: 42	Scenery is much nicer than Dunsfold.

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Ottobon Banned Joined: Nov 27th, 2005 Last Online: May 27th, 2009 Location: Detriot Metro Area Posts: 3,313 Car: 2 Rust buckets and a confused 1999 American. Rep Power: 0	514hp, lolz GTR is such a goofy car

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GusinCA Joined: Dec 27th, 2005 Last Online: August 15th, 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 74 Rep Power: 16	I dunno, if it can keep up with a supercar, maybe it's a supercar? My favorite is still the little Ariel Atom...

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superchevy Joined: Jan 6th, 2005 Last Online: October 28th, 2009 Location: raleigh & fayetteville, north carolina Age: 26 Posts: 614 Car: '97 jeep grand cherokee limited - up country Rep Power: 26	well, that's like criticizing a drama for not being funny. most american automotive shows and magazines focus primarily on the technical aspects of automotives. top gear uk's perogative seems to mostly be about entertainment. they obviously don't worry too much about actually checking their "facts", and are really only concerned with shock value and laughs. as for putting "performance into perspective", how useful is it really to know if an exige can avoid being locked on by an apache's weapons system? sure, it's fun to watch, but is that really going to help you decide on a purchase if you are in the market? i hope not. when i want to know the proper torque rating for a specifc bolt on a specific part, i read rod & customs or watch "the power block" on spike tv. when i want to see a cow carcass strapped to the top of a 3rd gen camaro, i watch top gear. simple as that. nothing wrong with either approach. Last edited by superchevy; April 11th, 2008 at 10:34 AM.

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superchevy Joined: Jan 6th, 2005 Last Online: October 28th, 2009 Location: raleigh & fayetteville, north carolina Age: 26 Posts: 614 Car: '97 jeep grand cherokee limited - up country Rep Power: 26	that's a pretty good way of summing it up, but i would say top gear is more like the daily show or the colbert report, and motor trend et al. are like 60 minutes.

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