[06x08] July 17th, 2005 - Page 3

Shawn · July 18th, 2005, 11:40 AM

Worst. Episode. Ever.

By Top Gear standards atleast. The TT really does put me to sleep after having been unchanged for the past 8 or so years. The other two were almost as bad too.

AstonMartin · July 18th, 2005, 12:23 PM

Yep. It was really a bad episode. Flat and no funny. Worst plenty of FAT and ugly girls on video. Is this the way this country wants to show their girls? Without going to "Baywatch" extremes, what if normal girls are put on the front line?

It was weak in the studios as well but consider why:
a) Jeremy with painkillers
b) heat in the studio with people (fat girls usually) fainting

It seems that there is not a lot of material to show anylonger and piece are over-stretched to "fill" time. Tim Rice is a true gentleman but his interview was uninspiring.

If there are 11 episodes something has to give... right?

PS: James May could put a little bit more effort in this show. It is really up to the poor Jeremy to hold the whole show.

I love TG, do not get me wrong. I have all the tapes, DVD of Jeremy, books and the like... but this sixth series is no way great. I had to get and see the Aston Martin DB 9 race to remember how good it was Top Gear.

Maybe the formula is tired, maybe the presenters are tired, maybe there are not as many new interesting cars our there to review...

But talking with other TG aficionados and friends there are some ideas that maybe TG people could take on board

a) James May should be used more
b) waht about visiting where cars are built? Ferrari Aston Martin etc
c) more F1 and rally drivers... put them against each other
d) what about motoring clubs like the Jag ones... to show the passion for cars
e) what about a stronger political message against authorities on certain issues
f) what about DESIGNERS... show them to inspire young people to this great art

Take care

SL65 · July 18th, 2005, 12:27 PM

Quote:

a) James May should be used more
b) waht about visiting where cars are built? Ferrari Aston Martin etc
c) more F1 and rally drivers... put them against each other
d) what about motoring clubs like the Jag ones... to show the passion for cars
e) what about a stronger political message against authorities on certain issues
f) what about DESIGNERS... show them to inspire young people to this great art

Email THAT^ to THEM*(BBC)

No seriously cos I agree, the current formula has worked excellent for some time, however it expired before the 5th series and they could have used this new year to change the formula a bit.

Gem · July 18th, 2005, 12:29 PM

Quote:

AstonMartin
But talking with other TG aficionados and friends there are some ideas that maybe TG people could take on board

b) waht about visiting where cars are built? Ferrari Aston Martin etc

d) what about motoring clubs like the Jag ones... to show the passion for cars

f) what about DESIGNERS... show them to inspire young people to this great art

Some really good ideas, especially about the motoring clubs. What about including some of the thousands of car shows that are held in the UK?

Just stuff to pep the series up a bit really

AstonMartin · July 18th, 2005, 12:31 PM

I honestly thought about emailing Top Gear but... but they get thousands of emails per day from nutters and so mine would be lost in such an ocean of twaddle.

In this forum there seems to be a bona-fide Top Gear insider so I put my post to him (her?).

PS: any more news for these TG DVDs to be published one day?

Take care

Kebab gud · July 18th, 2005, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil2dot6

I was quite surprised when James mentioned he wasn't in favour of the Nissan Skyline... However much James may have been my favourite host, I just had to grasp my broken heart and agree with Jerermy about a prescription gunshot to James' face...

yes... but what shocked me was that they do not know that there IS! a skyline today.. ... just not a GTR...

fbc · July 18th, 2005, 01:53 PM

hmmm not the best episode really... couple of laughs, but as others have said the convertible segment went on waaaaay too long.

roundhead · July 18th, 2005, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micra

Quote:

poor, poor hammond! JC was quite mild about the girl shouting, I've seen guys humiliated for less.

Apparently the comments made by that group of girls and Jeremy's reaction to it (taking Hammond in the piss for it) got a lot more nasty and sexually-oriented

See here, if you're in for a bit of a scandal:

http://groups.msn.com/HammondHeaven/...31031287829910

I can't believe Jeremy said that, nor that they haven't banned those girls from the studio yet. Give the poor guys a break, especially Richard!

just checked out that thread (managed to resist posting though

). that was some creeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy shit. i guess most celebities have obsessive fans/stalkers, but still.... poor old hammond.

the programme overall was subpar i think. i'm with jezza though - nissan, a new gtr please!

magnaman · July 18th, 2005, 03:34 PM

You guys... are a bit too critical.. i rekon it was an awesome episode! ok i watched it while on my 4th beer, but i think it was great!

here in australia, at the time i was watching it.. we either had Big brother, home and away or frasier... and Me watching my downloaded Top gear VUK rip, which might i add works perfectly well on my playstation movie player.., was brilliant!

But james doesnt do much does he.... hmm.. he started coming out in the early episodes.. but lately he hasnt done anything at all cept the stupid music segmant....

Joker · July 18th, 2005, 04:25 PM

can someone post the lap time of the F430, please? Can't download TG at the moment, but I want to know if it has beaten the F360 CS and the GT3 RS. Thanks a lot!

Stiggy · July 18th, 2005, 04:29 PM

god that girl was ugly... not such a bad ep imo, liked the f430 and the convertibles weren't that bad... some nice scenery in that part i'm sure you can all agree.

cookting · July 18th, 2005, 04:30 PM

F430 = 1:22.9
The 360 CS had 1:22.3

They said the tires on the 430 (bridgestone) weren't as good as the pirellis they used to use on the 360s...

Joker · July 18th, 2005, 05:00 PM

Thanks cookting! I expected the F430 to be as fast or even faster. Looking forward for other tests of the F430, especially the Supertest in "Sportauto" with the laptime of the Nürburgring Nordschleife.

The Chad · July 18th, 2005, 05:11 PM

James May drove a black 430 Spider in Italy a few months ago in Top Gear Magazine and said he loved it, as long as you stay away from the flashy colors. Even liked the flappy paddle gearbox.

It's still nice to know that I own the roadster that Jezza still likes the most of the cheaper lot (The S2000).

I thought the episode was a little weak myself. I guess I kinda thought the entire season has been. The race to Oslo seemed almost too staged at some points. Basically, this is what I think has happened.

They started the series off well. The Five-a-Side football in the Aygo was a good segment. The SLK segment was entertaining. They hit all their better stuff early on in the season, and now seem to be just getting through cars and finding filler. Maybe they have some tricks up their sleeves for the reason of the season, but they seemed to come out fairly strong and just don't have enough to push them through 11 episodes. Most new cars aren't released until the fall anyway, so they won't be testing a lot of new stuff until next series, I'd imagine.

I want to see the AM V8. I know they'll make a big deal about that.

AstonMartin · July 18th, 2005, 05:19 PM

Jezza still likes the most of the cheaper lot

I beg to differ on the one above. At the studio (this was cut in the episode) Jeremy stated that "cheap is cheap and expensive is good". So in reality he likes exclusive things and even if something is good but in the cheap price braket, it is regarded as a toy.

The point I believe he is trying to make is that if you can/want to spend a lot of money in car then you need to spend it wisely on something with value. Expensive for the sake of it is pure non-sense.

AM

Chupacabras · July 18th, 2005, 06:53 PM

Im quite happy with the series so far - yes its not the same as the 5th series, but it sure beats the hell out of most of the garbage on TV here!

rzzth · July 18th, 2005, 07:29 PM

I dont understand you people rambling on about how bad this episode was. I thought it was great, especially compared to last weeks episode. Anyway they shouldve edited that fat bitch out or made jeremy start insulting her like does to the guys.

bihus · July 18th, 2005, 07:39 PM

Yeah, because that way they're encouraging the other lunatics to do the same.

Tha_bounce · July 18th, 2005, 08:04 PM

From the Ferrari bit

CST , would more appropraitely translate to - Commit Suicide Today!!!

Shadowness · July 18th, 2005, 08:40 PM

I thought it was odd that the result of the convertable test ended up with the exact three cars they tried to compare on an earlier top gear! ie the S2000, Boxter, and Z4.

July 18th, 2005, 01:53 PM	#47
fbc Mantastic! Joined: Jan 8th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 33 Posts: 10,346 Car: 2006 MY07 Astra SRi Turbo Rep Power: 77	hmmm not the best episode really... couple of laughs, but as others have said the convertible segment went on waaaaay too long. __________________ www.sniffpetrol.com

July 18th, 2005, 03:34 PM	#49
magnaman Joined: Dec 31st, 2004 Last Online: November 24th, 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 63 Rep Power: 16	You guys... are a bit too critical.. i rekon it was an awesome episode! ok i watched it while on my 4th beer, but i think it was great! here in australia, at the time i was watching it.. we either had Big brother, home and away or frasier... and Me watching my downloaded Top gear VUK rip, which might i add works perfectly well on my playstation movie player.., was brilliant! But james doesnt do much does he.... hmm.. he started coming out in the early episodes.. but lately he hasnt done anything at all cept the stupid music segmant.... __________________ oooo i come from the land down under!

July 18th, 2005, 04:29 PM	#51
Stiggy Joined: Jun 21st, 2005 Last Online: September 12th, 2005 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	god that girl was ugly... not such a bad ep imo, liked the f430 and the convertibles weren't that bad... some nice scenery in that part i'm sure you can all agree. __________________ JC: "This, is a car programme. There will be no cushions. There will be no rag rolling. No one will sing and at the end of the series no one will have a recording contract. This, is our new base, and this is our purpose-built test track. There are no traffic jams here, well, apart from this one, and no bus lanes either. This, is Top Gear."

July 18th, 2005, 05:11 PM	#54
The Chad Joined: Feb 22nd, 2005 Last Online: 12:37 AM Location: Northwest Ohio Age: 25 Posts: 465 Rep Power: 21	James May drove a black 430 Spider in Italy a few months ago in Top Gear Magazine and said he loved it, as long as you stay away from the flashy colors. Even liked the flappy paddle gearbox. It's still nice to know that I own the roadster that Jezza still likes the most of the cheaper lot (The S2000). I thought the episode was a little weak myself. I guess I kinda thought the entire season has been. The race to Oslo seemed almost too staged at some points. Basically, this is what I think has happened. They started the series off well. The Five-a-Side football in the Aygo was a good segment. The SLK segment was entertaining. They hit all their better stuff early on in the season, and now seem to be just getting through cars and finding filler. Maybe they have some tricks up their sleeves for the reason of the season, but they seemed to come out fairly strong and just don't have enough to push them through 11 episodes. Most new cars aren't released until the fall anyway, so they won't be testing a lot of new stuff until next series, I'd imagine. I want to see the AM V8. I know they'll make a big deal about that. __________________ "- ... But don't dawdle. Get the car into top gear as quickly as is reasonable. Fifth gear, remember, is no good at all." -- Jeremy Clarkson

July 18th, 2005, 08:04 PM	#59
Tha_bounce Joined: Jul 13th, 2004 Last Online: January 30th, 2008 Location: Vancouver. B.C, Canada Posts: 106 Rep Power: 0	From the Ferrari bit CST , would more appropraitely translate to - Commit Suicide Today!!! __________________ "Fuck like Minks, raise Rugrats and live happily ever after!" "Supercars are supposed to run over Arthur Scargill..…and then run over him again for good measure. They are designed to melt ice caps, kill the poor , poison the water table, destroy the ozone layer, decimate indigenous wildlife, re-capture The Falkland Islands, and turn the entire third world into a huge uninhabitable desert - but only after they’ve nicked all the world’s oil!!" - Jeremy Clarkson

July 18th, 2005, 11:40 AM	#41
Shawn FG's Highest Paid Male Whore Joined: May 26th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,322 Car: IS250 RWD Rep Power: 86	Worst. Episode. Ever. By Top Gear standards atleast. The TT really does put me to sleep after having been unchanged for the past 8 or so years. The other two were almost as bad too.

July 18th, 2005, 12:23 PM	#42
AstonMartin Joined: Nov 15th, 2004 Last Online: July 25th, 2007 Location: London Posts: 208 Rep Power: 0	Yep. It was really a bad episode. Flat and no funny. Worst plenty of FAT and ugly girls on video. Is this the way this country wants to show their girls? Without going to "Baywatch" extremes, what if normal girls are put on the front line? It was weak in the studios as well but consider why: a) Jeremy with painkillers b) heat in the studio with people (fat girls usually) fainting It seems that there is not a lot of material to show anylonger and piece are over-stretched to "fill" time. Tim Rice is a true gentleman but his interview was uninspiring. If there are 11 episodes something has to give... right? PS: James May could put a little bit more effort in this show. It is really up to the poor Jeremy to hold the whole show. I love TG, do not get me wrong. I have all the tapes, DVD of Jeremy, books and the like... but this sixth series is no way great. I had to get and see the Aston Martin DB 9 race to remember how good it was Top Gear. Maybe the formula is tired, maybe the presenters are tired, maybe there are not as many new interesting cars our there to review... But talking with other TG aficionados and friends there are some ideas that maybe TG people could take on board a) James May should be used more b) waht about visiting where cars are built? Ferrari Aston Martin etc c) more F1 and rally drivers... put them against each other d) what about motoring clubs like the Jag ones... to show the passion for cars e) what about a stronger political message against authorities on certain issues f) what about DESIGNERS... show them to inspire young people to this great art Take care

July 18th, 2005, 12:31 PM	#45
AstonMartin Joined: Nov 15th, 2004 Last Online: July 25th, 2007 Location: London Posts: 208 Rep Power: 0	I honestly thought about emailing Top Gear but... but they get thousands of emails per day from nutters and so mine would be lost in such an ocean of twaddle. In this forum there seems to be a bona-fide Top Gear insider so I put my post to him (her?). PS: any more news for these TG DVDs to be published one day? Take care

July 18th, 2005, 04:25 PM	#50
Joker Joined: Oct 26th, 2004 Last Online: May 12th, 2008 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	can someone post the lap time of the F430, please? Can't download TG at the moment, but I want to know if it has beaten the F360 CS and the GT3 RS. Thanks a lot!

July 18th, 2005, 04:30 PM	#52
cookting Joined: Apr 13th, 2005 Last Online: May 24th, 2008 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	F430 = 1:22.9 The 360 CS had 1:22.3 They said the tires on the 430 (bridgestone) weren't as good as the pirellis they used to use on the 360s...

July 18th, 2005, 05:00 PM	#53
Joker Joined: Oct 26th, 2004 Last Online: May 12th, 2008 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Thanks cookting! I expected the F430 to be as fast or even faster. Looking forward for other tests of the F430, especially the Supertest in "Sportauto" with the laptime of the Nürburgring Nordschleife.

July 18th, 2005, 05:19 PM	#55
AstonMartin Joined: Nov 15th, 2004 Last Online: July 25th, 2007 Location: London Posts: 208 Rep Power: 0	Jezza still likes the most of the cheaper lot I beg to differ on the one above. At the studio (this was cut in the episode) Jeremy stated that "cheap is cheap and expensive is good". So in reality he likes exclusive things and even if something is good but in the cheap price braket, it is regarded as a toy. The point I believe he is trying to make is that if you can/want to spend a lot of money in car then you need to spend it wisely on something with value. Expensive for the sake of it is pure non-sense. AM

July 18th, 2005, 07:29 PM	#57
rzzth Joined: Apr 29th, 2005 Last Online: February 10th, 2007 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	I dont understand you people rambling on about how bad this episode was. I thought it was great, especially compared to last weeks episode. Anyway they shouldve edited that fat bitch out or made jeremy start insulting her like does to the guys.

July 18th, 2005, 07:39 PM	#58
bihus Joined: Dec 7th, 2003 Last Online: April 2nd, 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 4,618 Rep Power: 25	Yeah, because that way they're encouraging the other lunatics to do the same.

July 18th, 2005, 08:40 PM	#60
Shadowness Joined: Jun 20th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Midlands, UK Age: 21 Posts: 1,057 Car: RenaultSport Clio 182FF Rep Power: 23	I thought it was odd that the result of the convertable test ended up with the exact three cars they tried to compare on an earlier top gear! ie the S2000, Boxter, and Z4. __________________ Photo gallery----> http://www.danfreemanphotography.com/

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