[06x10] July 31st, 2005

[watto]

^Oh! Thats right, the Davina McCall(sp.) interview...

Ah well, I'd support JC's statement. Forget the NCAP results, you would FEEL safer in the Range Rover and hey, 4 stars is still pretty good... You've also got a car that moves, unlike the Prius which has super glue on it's tyres.

[osabros]

Originally Posted by Mischief007

Did you see the V8 with 8 turbos ?

thats insane.... who made an engine like that??

[zenkidori]

Originally Posted by hajj

Okok those turbo's have been around for a time, never knew that there were so many engines with that technology What kind of engines were these? Inline engines? Because a BMW official said that it would be pretty difficult to put such a system on V engine.
Well anyway this is the only diesel one in production at this moment and it is bloody fast

the Mazda engines are 1.3 liter rotary engines and the Supra engine is a 3 liter inline 6. You don't need a sequential setup on V engines because they use smaller turbos to begin with as they are powered off half the cylinders.
The setup in my dad's truck is an inline 6 cylinder diesel engine, I'm not sure about the size but it's quite large.

[vedub]

Originally Posted by fbc

bloody hell, *another* aussie

(we need an aussie welcome smilie - you know with a broad brimmed hat with corks to keep the flys away)

thanks mate , so many aussies fans on the forum and we don't even have the show on free to air TV. Top gear is definitely missing out on a market.

[jarborra]

Originally Posted by KryptonZone

I do, but I don't have 120 euros (or 75 quid) for magazines... This really suks! I rather pay for the shirt itself

And I already have a subscription so I don't qualify for the free t-shirt. That sucks too!

[watto]

Originally Posted by vedub

thanks mate , so many aussies fans on the forum and we don't even have the show on free to air TV. Top gear is definitely missing out on a market.

my word... if the ABC picked it up they'd have a relative ratings goldmine! I know of about 10 other guys at uni that d/l the eagle (hehe) but they can't be arsed signing up to these forums... poor bastards, don't know what theyre missing out on!!

[vedub]

Originally Posted by Pulsinator

Where'd you get your Williams on the bridge picture from? I was there on the day and took the very same picture.. Awesome watching a F1 car with no 2m high crash barriers between you and it.

Your right about Webber's car on the harbour bridge. The sight of a f1 car running around on the bridge with no other cars was something special. However, I don't think something like this will ever happen again. Maybe if Webber wins the WC, they might allow him to do some donuts.

I found the pic by searching through google

[jarborra]

Originally Posted by Shawn_230

Anyone see the resemblance of the Iceland segments and Jeremy Clarkson's Motorworld? It was good nonetheless.

Yeah, by coincidence, I had just read the chapter on Iceland the night before and was thrilled to see Clarkson's old Motorworld article brought to life. The book was included free with the Top Gear magazine a month or so ago. For those that didn't get it, here are the relevant excerpts from the Iceland chapter:

Originally Posted by Jeremy Clarkson

Then there's motorsport which, until recently, was impossible because road-traffic laws applied everywhere. You could have built a racetrack but it would have been subjected to the blanket 70kph speed limit. However, in 1981 they changed the law and Iceland went motorsport barmy, to the point that today, every weekend, Iceland echoes to the sound of what are by far the most powerful race cars in the known world.

To the casual observer, they're Jeeps, but this is like calling a Michelin three-start lunch a snack. They have Detroit V8 engines and four-wheel drive, but that's about all they have in common with what you see cruising up and down the King's Road on Saturday. The tyres, for a kick-off, are two feet wide and equipped with scoop-like flaps to give extra grip. The chassis are massively altered too, elongated and beefed up so that they stay in one piece after a 100-foot drop.

Then there are the engines, which must be capable of getting the car up the 100-foot climb in the first place. They are, basically, tuned V8s of 5- or 7-litre capacity but, for that little extra something, when you hit the gas hard, ultra-cold nitrous oxide is brought into play, giving a total of 900 horsepower.

The course is laid out over what, in Britain, we'd call a quarry. And what you do is drive up the walls, the idea being that the first part of the climb is nearly vertical and the last ten to twelve feet, completely sheer. And you get no run-up.

I'd been told that the nitro needs to come in at the exact moment the rear wheels hit the vertical part of the slope, causing them to bounce away from the rock face and thus, hopefully, causing the car to rock over the lip. It didn't make much sense at the time and having done it, it makes even less now.

Things often go wrong. Cars roll down the banks all the time but that said, in fifteen years, no competitor has been injured. This, frankly, was cold comfort, because I was scared out of my mind - and I'm talking about scared in the bowel-loosening sense.

Three things stopped me from asking Gisli to stop. First, I'm British. Second, I couldn't make myself heard. And third, I was sitting on my arms to stop them flailing about if we rolled. So I simply sat there, wishing to God that I was an accountant.

I can post the bit JC wrote about driving on water too if anyone's interested.

[SL65]

Originally Posted by fbc

bloody hell, *another* aussie

(we need an aussie welcome smilie - you know with a broad brimmed hat with corks to keep the flys away)

Oh yeh we do Its great to see so many of em in very recent weeks

[Mischief007]

Originally Posted by osabros

thats insane.... who made an engine like that??

http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicl...rbo/index.html

There you go. Read up.

[HuevosRancheros]

great episode, i usually FF through the star in a resonably priced car but this time it was actually good. they really need more women in those bits to make it interesting. Jezza did not seem so over powering in this episode.

[ycchan]

Originally Posted by Ali

eerm, jeremy clarkson...how many stars did the range rove get in the euro ncap?? 4? the prius got 5 for people inside its even safer than in many other 5 star cars...

You don't know any physics.

[rzzth]

Originally Posted by Ali

eerm, jeremy clarkson...how many stars did the range rove get in the euro ncap?? 4? the prius got 5 for people inside its even safer than in many other 5 star cars...

F=m*a. The range rover will be safer in a crash. Most cars on the road are smaller than it so the amount of damage inside will be less. A prius will smash to pieces if hit by a range rover, while people in a range rover will be able to walk away unharmed.

[PowerSlide]

There was an episode of Fifth Gear when they crashed a big 4x4 (I think a Mitsubishi) against a "normal" car. The result was impressive. Of course, the test dummies on the 4x4 had a pleasant ride. The dummies on the normal car......well....

[TurboWRX]

Originally Posted by PowerSlide

There was an episode of Fifth Gear when they crashed a big 4x4 (I think a Mitsubishi) against a "normal" car. The result was impressive. Of course, the test dummies on the 4x4 had a pleasant ride. The dummies on the normal car......well....

Yeah I saw that one the suv was another Landrover an older one of course, and the occupants in the suv sufferd severd limbs, while the people in the car one went through the windshield half way and the other was in the back seat i think...

[GTV V6]

^^^ No, it was a Mitubishi Shogun (in the UK, Pajero in Japan and god only knows what it's called in the US), the car was a Honda Civic if I remember rightly.

[Leppy]

Originally Posted by rzzth

F=m*a. The range rover will be safer in a crash. Most cars on the road are smaller than it so the amount of damage inside will be less. A prius will smash to pieces if hit by a range rover, while people in a range rover will be able to walk away unharmed.

Until it rolls and throws seat belted occupants everywhere.

[fbc]

Originally Posted by rzzth

F=m*a. The range rover will be safer in a crash. Most cars on the road are smaller than it so the amount of damage inside will be less. A prius will smash to pieces if hit by a range rover, while people in a range rover will be able to walk away unharmed.

IMO that's a stupid argument

RR vs Prius - RR occupants unscatched, Prius occupants badly messed up
Prius vs Prius - all occupants slightly messed up, no one seriously messed up
RR vs RR - *everyone* seriously messed up
RR vs tree - *everyone* seriously messed up
Prius vs tree - *everyone* messed up, but not as bad as RR vs tree.

The whole arguement about SUV's being safer is just a steaming pile of shite. If everyone drove SUV's the road toll would skyrocket.

I find the attitude of "I'm 'safe' in my hulking SUV and I don't give a shite what affect I have on other road users if I make a mistake" just sickening and a sad sad reflection on the selfishness in society today.

Let's take a theoretical example - driver makes a mistake and rear-ends another car. If that driver is in an SUV he is going to make one hell of a mess of the other occupants (the vehicle will "smash to pieces" in your words), but hey he'll walk away just fine (and that's all that matters right?) - even though it was their mistake to start with.

Whereas if they were driving a normal car they would have some slight injuries, but the people in the other car would also suffer much less injuries.

You tell me which is the better outcome

The crash-aggresivity (sp?) of SUV's is a major road safety issue.

Originally Posted by Leppy

Until it rolls and throws seat belted occupants everywhere.

exactly.

[PowerSlide]

On Fifth Gear, they were focusing on what fbc said. They weren't saying SUV's were safe but that they were dangerous to other cars in a collision.

[Jail80]

Originally Posted by Leppy

How old are you, Jail80?

You did? Well.. kinda missed that then. I haven't heard of those before. Well, thank you for giving me this information. Life's a lesson.

How old I am? Take a wild quess.. (hint: numbers in my name got something to do with it. )