[07x01] November 13th, 2005

Renesis · November 13th, 2005, 09:06 PM

For those who have seen it post here, other DON'T READ because there WILL BE spoilers.

garethpeate · November 13th, 2005, 09:18 PM

Once again, Clarkson lays into the BMW iDrive on the M6. Completely unjustified. Yes it's a picky system but it works well, and if you want the car permanently in M-mode, you only have to set it once. They make out like you have to do it every time you start the car.

jensked · November 13th, 2005, 09:23 PM

^ admit, it's pretty stupid that you can choose between 500bph and 500bph sport.

It was a very good episode. Especially the Stig part and the umbrella part was hilarious.

The Sunday Drivers are back images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

Blythy · November 13th, 2005, 09:24 PM

I'm surprised the 911 won, would have thought it would have been the aston for definate.

Average show, but still worth the wait.

Kip_6666 · November 13th, 2005, 09:24 PM

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Once again, Clarkson lays into the BMW iDrive on the M6. Completely unjustified. Yes it's a picky system but it works well, and if you want the car permanently in M-mode, you only have to set it once. They make out like you have to do it every time you start the car.

But its still way more work than the other cars it was compared too.

And was that Porsche 911 time difference a bit too much? They should have done it on the track imo.

Patrick Bateman · November 13th, 2005, 09:27 PM

Absolutely top notch episode to kick off the new season.

The review of the Ascari was brilliant. Richard had a very mature and professional manner about him which bodes well for future reviews. Not sure I agree though that because its quite sensible that it takes away from it. I mean you would still take notice if it drove past you. Plus it set a brilliant time. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

The guest was very good. A funny interview and a new fastest driver (not time though) images/smilies/mellow.gif

The three car comparison was the best yet by far. I was worried Jeremy would decide quickly that he preffered the Aston just for being an Aston and not even consider the others but he was very objective about it. Also I agree that it was the correct result. Stigs a braver driver than ill ever be for doing that kind of speed on those narrow wet and slippy roads images/smilies/wacko.gif

Overall just fantastic so no complants images/smilies/mad.gif

garethpeate · November 13th, 2005, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kip_6666

But its still way more work than the other cars it was compared too.

It was just the only one they showed. Clarkson did exactly the same thing on his M5 review.

Surprised he said so many nice things about it in the end though.

monkeymax · November 13th, 2005, 09:31 PM

Yeah, great episode - really loved it! Definately better than the current crop of fifth gear I feel.

Also, did anyone else feel from the three car shootout segment (Aston vs. BMW Vs. Porsche) that it really was like the three of them were just mates talking about cars? I thought it was really cool (esp. the fishing bit, as wierd as it was in a way) the way that they were just standing round talking about the pros and cons of each car - like mates who've just been on a few test drives.

Laughed loads, def. good fun!

Edit: oh yeah, the star in the reasonably priced car bit was actually really good this time, even though I never watch Waking the Dead. The self destructing Suzuki was particularly enjoyable! images/smilies/smile.gif

Blythy · November 13th, 2005, 09:37 PM

The slips from the next segments look awesome btw.

cheap car challenge seems great, plus the current crop supercar test looks great (Hammond diggin a zonda into the ground).

I'm predicting one hell of a good run.

NooDle · November 13th, 2005, 09:37 PM

well worth the wait, this episode

I never would have believed the Porsche could post the fastest time on those roads! The BMW has got 140 hp more!! where did it all go?

also, it has to be said that the result would be quite different had it been dry and sunny

the KZ1 was just awesome, I was expecting a 1.25-1.30 lap but to come up with that time! it must all be down to weight and grip because 500 hp is nothing at that end of the lap chart

cant wait for the Bugatti episode though, and it does seem that Jeremy is racing the other two boys to some far off destination (yet again) this series

fantastic!

PogotheMonkey · November 13th, 2005, 09:41 PM

lmao about the french car joke .. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

And watching the trailer I'm finally gonna see hammond gettin' shot

ATsucks · November 13th, 2005, 09:42 PM

thats the first review of any three cars they've done which I felt was almost justified. My personal choice would have been the Vantage simply because it looks so amazing, I mean did you see those LED headlights?!?!?! Sure for guys like JC and such who drive super cars for a living, the V8 might not have as much kick as they would like, but for guys like myself I'm sure the thrill of driving one, let alone owning one would be out of this world. Still though, tough choice. I don't like the choice of horse power on the M6 and dont see the point. Its a brutal looking ride though, but I agree that getting the M5 makes more sense; more car for less. The S is cool, but looks too much like a Boxster which does it for me. Its a purist car for those who understand it, and to everyone else, its just a Porsche.

A great episode and good laugh, loved the Stig at the airport part, could NOT stop laughing. I'm guessing the huge time difference had to do with the BMW's weight over both cars, not sure why the Vantage was so slow though...

manxman · November 13th, 2005, 09:49 PM

Great episode. Nice to see my daily drive into work featured in so much detail. I agree about the BMW. Where did the power go. The section that The Stig did the timed run on is mostly striaght & uphill so power should win. I guess it just lacks grip in the wet

pdanev · November 13th, 2005, 09:55 PM

Carrera S - 1,420kg
M6 - 1,710kg

+ handling + suspension = No doubt about the winner. images/smilies/wink.gif

I was suprised by only one thing. I knew porsche will be the fastest, but I didn't expect 6seconds over such a short distance. images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

Plissken · November 13th, 2005, 09:59 PM

"Cocks Buy Porsches".

Heh heh heh.

pdanev · November 13th, 2005, 10:02 PM

Say's the wise man who bought a car that was basically unusable and had to be returned.

James and Richard should've had a t-shirt saying:

"Only cocks take back unusable broken ford GTs." images/smilies/tongue.gif

jensked · November 13th, 2005, 10:49 PM

What do you think was on the paper Jeremy showed the other two to 'shut them up'??

bartboy9891 · November 13th, 2005, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garethpeate

Once again, Clarkson lays into the BMW iDrive on the M6. Completely unjustified. Yes it's a picky system but it works well, and if you want the car permanently in M-mode, you only have to set it once. They make out like you have to do it every time you start the car.

you obviously dont know what the I-drive is like on the move. i was in my friends dad's 7 series and it was so fucking annoying just trying to mess with the stereo. Sure it was the first time that i've used it. but in the Audi A8, there is another similar type of knob that controls everything, and it isnt even close to being as confusing.

RikfromBelgium · November 13th, 2005, 11:13 PM

you don't have to use I-drive while driving, you vahe controlls for the radio on the steeringwheel.
The BS about the settings is rubbish, that's why you have the button with the big M on the steeringwheel, just like in the M5. Other than that, great episode, great laughs and I'm bloody looking forward to the rest of the series. It's just such a shame there are only 5 more episodes to go images/smilies/sad.gif

Mcmerc SLR · November 13th, 2005, 11:15 PM

Well worth the wait!
The 3 car shootout was brilliant LOL the fishing/umbrella/the stig. Fair play to the stig twas bloody wet there and he didn’t crash!

I want to know what Clarkson had that made them shut up!

That KZ1 was awesome what a good British car, How many car parks must Hammond have opened to be able to afford a Morgan and a Porsche when at the begging of the year he was struggling to by a £20000 charger!

Cant wait till next week images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

November 13th, 2005, 09:06 PM	#1
Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: September 3rd, 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 20 Posts: 9,679 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 0	[07x01] November 13th, 2005 For those who have seen it post here, other DON'T READ because there WILL BE spoilers.

November 13th, 2005, 09:23 PM	#3
jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: September 5th, 2008 Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 24 Posts: 3,881 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 32	^ admit, it's pretty stupid that you can choose between 500bph and 500bph sport. It was a very good episode. Especially the Stig part and the umbrella part was hilarious. The Sunday Drivers are back __________________

November 13th, 2005, 09:24 PM	#4
Blythy Joined: Sep 27th, 2005 Last Online: September 4th, 2008 Posts: 964 Car: Vauxhall Corsa SXi 1.2 Oh fuck yeah! Rep Power: 13	I'm surprised the 911 won, would have thought it would have been the aston for definate. Average show, but still worth the wait. __________________

November 13th, 2005, 09:27 PM	#6
Patrick Bateman Joined: Oct 20th, 2005 Last Online: May 15th, 2006 Location: American Gardens Building, West 81st, 11th Floor Posts: 59 Rep Power: 0	Absolutely top notch episode to kick off the new season. The review of the Ascari was brilliant. Richard had a very mature and professional manner about him which bodes well for future reviews. Not sure I agree though that because its quite sensible that it takes away from it. I mean you would still take notice if it drove past you. Plus it set a brilliant time. The guest was very good. A funny interview and a new fastest driver (not time though) The three car comparison was the best yet by far. I was worried Jeremy would decide quickly that he preffered the Aston just for being an Aston and not even consider the others but he was very objective about it. Also I agree that it was the correct result. Stigs a braver driver than ill ever be for doing that kind of speed on those narrow wet and slippy roads Overall just fantastic so no complants __________________ "We serial killers are your sons, we are your husbands, we are everywhere. And there will be more of your children dead tommorow" Ted Bundy

November 13th, 2005, 09:31 PM	#8
monkeymax Joined: Dec 7th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: England Age: 25 Posts: 1,023 Car: Toyota MR2 Mk1, Toyota MR2 Mk1 SC, Peugeot 309 Rep Power: 18	Yeah, great episode - really loved it! Definately better than the current crop of fifth gear I feel. Also, did anyone else feel from the three car shootout segment (Aston vs. BMW Vs. Porsche) that it really was like the three of them were just mates talking about cars? I thought it was really cool (esp. the fishing bit, as wierd as it was in a way) the way that they were just standing round talking about the pros and cons of each car - like mates who've just been on a few test drives. Laughed loads, def. good fun! Edit: oh yeah, the star in the reasonably priced car bit was actually really good this time, even though I never watch Waking the Dead. The self destructing Suzuki was particularly enjoyable! __________________ Yup, two too many cars, but I love 'em: 1991 Peugeot 309 - owned it for four years, currently the only runner and the daily driver... but great fun to drive! French though, so gotta treat her rough to keep her happy. 1989 Toyota MR2 Mk1 - owned it for two years. Love it loads. Currently undergoing a suspension upgrade... 1987 Toyota MR2 Mk1 SC - A project car that had Headgasket issues when I bought it. I've never driven it... yet...

November 13th, 2005, 09:18 PM	#2
garethpeate Joined: Oct 27th, 2005 Last Online: July 6th, 2008 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Once again, Clarkson lays into the BMW iDrive on the M6. Completely unjustified. Yes it's a picky system but it works well, and if you want the car permanently in M-mode, you only have to set it once. They make out like you have to do it every time you start the car.

November 13th, 2005, 09:37 PM	#9
Blythy Joined: Sep 27th, 2005 Last Online: September 4th, 2008 Posts: 964 Car: Vauxhall Corsa SXi 1.2 Oh fuck yeah! Rep Power: 13	The slips from the next segments look awesome btw. cheap car challenge seems great, plus the current crop supercar test looks great (Hammond diggin a zonda into the ground). I'm predicting one hell of a good run. __________________

November 13th, 2005, 09:37 PM	#10
NooDle Joined: Jul 20th, 2005 Last Online: 11:29 AM Location: Belgium Age: 26 Posts: 1,619 Car: 2004 Opel Astra 2.2DTI Rep Power: 26	well worth the wait, this episode I never would have believed the Porsche could post the fastest time on those roads! The BMW has got 140 hp more!! where did it all go? also, it has to be said that the result would be quite different had it been dry and sunny the KZ1 was just awesome, I was expecting a 1.25-1.30 lap but to come up with that time! it must all be down to weight and grip because 500 hp is nothing at that end of the lap chart cant wait for the Bugatti episode though, and it does seem that Jeremy is racing the other two boys to some far off destination (yet again) this series fantastic!

November 13th, 2005, 09:41 PM	#11
PogotheMonkey Joined: Apr 21st, 2005 Last Online: August 31st, 2008 Location: =) Posts: 82 LFS Status: Rep Power: 0	lmao about the french car joke .. And watching the trailer I'm finally gonna see hammond gettin' shot

November 13th, 2005, 09:42 PM	#12
ATsucks Joined: Jul 20th, 2005 Last Online: May 30th, 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 118 Rep Power: 0	thats the first review of any three cars they've done which I felt was almost justified. My personal choice would have been the Vantage simply because it looks so amazing, I mean did you see those LED headlights?!?!?! Sure for guys like JC and such who drive super cars for a living, the V8 might not have as much kick as they would like, but for guys like myself I'm sure the thrill of driving one, let alone owning one would be out of this world. Still though, tough choice. I don't like the choice of horse power on the M6 and dont see the point. Its a brutal looking ride though, but I agree that getting the M5 makes more sense; more car for less. The S is cool, but looks too much like a Boxster which does it for me. Its a purist car for those who understand it, and to everyone else, its just a Porsche. A great episode and good laugh, loved the Stig at the airport part, could NOT stop laughing. I'm guessing the huge time difference had to do with the BMW's weight over both cars, not sure why the Vantage was so slow though... __________________

November 13th, 2005, 09:49 PM	#13
manxman Joined: Nov 13th, 2005 Last Online: January 21st, 2006 Location: Isle of Man Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Great episode. Nice to see my daily drive into work featured in so much detail. I agree about the BMW. Where did the power go. The section that The Stig did the timed run on is mostly striaght & uphill so power should win. I guess it just lacks grip in the wet

November 13th, 2005, 09:55 PM	#14
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,642 LFS Status: Rep Power: 23	Carrera S - 1,420kg M6 - 1,710kg + handling + suspension = No doubt about the winner. I was suprised by only one thing. I knew porsche will be the fastest, but I didn't expect 6seconds over such a short distance.

November 13th, 2005, 09:59 PM	#15
Plissken Joined: Jul 26th, 2005 Last Online: July 30th, 2008 Posts: 56 Rep Power: 13	"Cocks Buy Porsches". Heh heh heh. __________________ "I could do that time in a van!"

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pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,642 LFS Status: Rep Power: 23	Say's the wise man who bought a car that was basically unusable and had to be returned. James and Richard should've had a t-shirt saying: "Only cocks take back unusable broken ford GTs."

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jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: September 5th, 2008 Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 24 Posts: 3,881 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 32	What do you think was on the paper Jeremy showed the other two to 'shut them up'?? __________________

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November 13th, 2005, 11:13 PM	#19
RikfromBelgium Joined: Aug 6th, 2004 Last Online: August 2nd, 2008 Posts: 92 Rep Power: 0	you don't have to use I-drive while driving, you vahe controlls for the radio on the steeringwheel. The BS about the settings is rubbish, that's why you have the button with the big M on the steeringwheel, just like in the M5. Other than that, great episode, great laughs and I'm bloody looking forward to the rest of the series. It's just such a shame there are only 5 more episodes to go __________________ FREUDE AM FAHREN

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Mcmerc SLR Joined: May 2nd, 2005 Last Online: September 22nd, 2006 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	Well worth the wait! The 3 car shootout was brilliant LOL the fishing/umbrella/the stig. Fair play to the stig twas bloody wet there and he didn’t crash! I want to know what Clarkson had that made them shut up! That KZ1 was awesome what a good British car, How many car parks must Hammond have opened to be able to afford a Morgan and a Porsche when at the begging of the year he was struggling to by a £20000 charger! Cant wait till next week __________________

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