[07x04] December 4th, 2005 - Page 2

Cruzz563 · December 5th, 2005, 03:06 AM

I will/am at the moment, be posting the 'sode on a.b.multimedia again. It will be done in 2 hours, 45 minutes, that includes the PAR2 and all; about 2 hours, 15 minutes for just the RAR files. Enjoy! images/smilies/smile.gif

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DiB · December 5th, 2005, 04:02 AM

Entertaining but more filler then content.

ATsucks · December 5th, 2005, 04:04 AM

pretty unimpressive episode to be honest images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

. It was cool that two records were broken and I admired the tribute to Richard Burns was very touching. But the short Zonda segment was too short, the Renault challenge was lame, the 10K supercar segment was predictable... the best part of the show was next weeks preview of the Veyron, its gotta be something special if they showed a teaser of this this epdisode, they don't do that very often, if at all.

JoeBlo1 · December 5th, 2005, 04:53 AM

Unimpressive? Some of you have your expectations way too high. This was one of the finest episodes I've seen so far. The Zonda F segment was a little too short but everything else was great. Kudos to Clarkson for the Richard Burns segment.

I don't think Top Gear's ever done a preview of an upcoming episode, so the next one has to be brilliant!

logo · December 5th, 2005, 04:59 AM

the hell with this episode... next week images/smilies/w00t.gif

awdrifter · December 5th, 2005, 05:55 AM

The Zonda F segment is too short, but then they just did a extensive segment on the Zonda S last week, so it would probably be redundent. The Clio challenge is fun, it looks like it has good handling, but the turning radius is kinda bad. The $10k supercar segment is entertaining, but not much info. When they dyno the cars, they are only getting whp tho, so Hammon's Ferrari didn't actually lost 61hp, more like 40hp. Looking forward to next week's Veyron test, definitely looks good. images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

andyhui01 · December 5th, 2005, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awdrifter

The Zonda F segment is too short, but then they just did a extensive segment on the Zonda S last week, so it would probably be redundent. The Clio challenge is fun, it looks like it has good handling, but the turning radius is kinda bad. The $10k supercar segment is entertaining, but not much info. When they dyno the cars, they are only getting whp tho, so Hammon's Ferrari didn't actually lost 61hp, more like 40hp. Looking forward to next week's Veyron test, definitely looks good. images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

how are you so sure that the original figure was flywheel hp?... because ASAIK, european cars HP is measured at the wheel whereas japanese cars are measured at the flywheel

justvisiting · December 5th, 2005, 06:15 AM

Also.. didnt may say.. that the dynoed took data from the drag and converted the wheel hp to crank.. using some means i dont quite know..

Viper007Bond · December 5th, 2005, 06:43 AM

Great episode, but next week's will be awesome! images/smilies/biggrin.gif

watto · December 5th, 2005, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Great episode, but next week's will be awesome! images/smilies/biggrin.gif

x2.

Hehehe. The Stig in that diesel Astra, that was awesome driving images/smilies/lol.gif

Lusitano · December 5th, 2005, 07:17 AM

Great episode, but disappointing start.
For such a great car as the Zonda F is, the segment was surely very short.

The Clio vs. bike segment was fantastic! The bit with the old lady saying "Ai credo!" was hilarious! Hey, Bihus, was that near the Castle of St. Jorge? A couple of streets seemed familiar to me.
Respect to the biker! I can not see myself do that in my mountain bike. Not at that speed, anyway.
The Clio looked pretty good. It is one of the more popular cars in Portugal. Speaking of which, beautiful roads those James was driving on, before the race!

The Italian supercar segment was also very funny. I feel sorry for the owner of that Nissan! images/smilies/lol.gif

jatinashokbhatia · December 5th, 2005, 07:27 AM

Very good episode. I think the Zonda review was better than Jason's in FG. Its too much of a coincidence that the 3 guys came up with 3 different marques.....a Ferrari, a Maserati and a Lambo and no repeats. I dont think they do the buying themselves. I think the cars are purchased for them and they do the selection or toss a coin or pick pieces of paper with names on it and then start the cheap car tests. In the last one, there was 1 German (BMW - which Hammond likes anyway), 1 Japanese (Mitsu - which Jeremy thinks is great) and James, with an English Jag. - just too much of a coincidence.
I like Ellen's style and competitiveness...she is good. Fast too. James should have won that race....he loses too much.

pdanev · December 5th, 2005, 07:41 AM

One of the best episdoes in my opinion.

Criticism:
- zonda segment too short
- some bits did feel like just filling the time, and a bit uncomplete
- 10k challange could have been a bit better by giving some more challanges, and JC being a bit creative to win it

What I liked:
- 2 records broke
- RB tribute
- 10k supercar challange - I had literally tears in my eyes from laughing when Jeremy's engine exploded and went all into James' car, and I almost collapsed when he's brake went out 5seconds later and he drove into the bushes images/smilies/lol.gif

- stig with the vauxhall on 2 wheels images/smilies/ohmy.gif

- tears in my eyes again from laughing when they pushed the mondeo back
- tears in my eyes when James rammed massivley the nissan while reversing, and later on screaming that "it doesn't fit" images/smilies/lol.gif

- clio vs bike was awesome, nice to see James pushing it and "scretching it a bit:

Overall verdict: kick ass episode, with just a bit more touch could have been the best episode ever.

Johnny5 · December 5th, 2005, 07:44 AM

Even though James finally broke down like Jeremy and Hammond, at least he finally got the satisfaction of ditching them after they broke down. They always go have a drink while he struggles after breaking down. I liked seeing that.

Viper007Bond · December 5th, 2005, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Great episode, but next week's will be awesome! images/smilies/biggrin.gif

x2.

Hehehe. The Stig in that diesel Astra, that was awesome driving images/smilies/lol.gif

OMFG, agreed! Laughed my ass off at him getting it up on 2 wheels. images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

jatinashokbhatia · December 5th, 2005, 07:54 AM

Based purely on looks, I think the Maserati was 1st, Ferrari 2nd, Lambo came 3rd.

Ghostpilot Z · December 5th, 2005, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jatinashokbhatia

Very good episode. I think the Zonda review was better than Jason's in FG. Its too much of a coincidence that the 3 guys came up with 3 different marques.....a Ferrari, a Maserati and a Lambo and no repeats. I dont think they do the buying themselves. I think the cars are purchased for them and they do the selection or toss a coin or pick pieces of paper with names on it and then start the cheap car tests. In the last one, there was 1 German (BMW - which Hammond likes anyway), 1 Japanese (Mitsu - which Jeremy thinks is great) and James, with an English Jag. - just too much of a coincidence.
I like Ellen's style and competitiveness...she is good. Fast too. James should have won that race....he loses too much.

Actually James won the last "Cheap Car Challenge," so the only person who hasn't so far is Hammond. I think people are reading a bit too much into things, though. Just enjoy it for what it is: entertainment. James really shined in this episode, though. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

The Zonda F segment and the 10k segment did seem to end rather abruptly, though. Which is a shame, because that Zonda is really a spectacular-looking car. And Jeremy and Richard moving the car during the parking challenge...dirty, dirty, dirty. images/smilies/lol.gif

"C'mon! C'mon!!! I sound like I'm in a porn film!" ~Jezza.

zenkidori · December 5th, 2005, 09:37 AM

Great episode! It was curious how nearly every song this episode could be found on either the Pulp Fiction or Snatch soundtracks.

I won't be letting my dad watch this as I have been nagging him to buy a 308 GTB for a couple years now, and if he sees this he may just get a Porsche 944 or something silly like a new car images/smilies/wacko.gif

The race in Portugal was awesome! I would have loved to see the whole thing from the bumper cam.

I can't help but think that if you bought a car such as the Maserati in such poor condition, then changed the engine that it would be a pretty sweet car to drive around. Refresh the suspension components, give it some paint and polish and go about your daily business in style.

The Zonda segment could have been a bit longer, maybe just more footage of it driving around.

can't wait for the next one! images/smilies/eek.gif

Shawn · December 5th, 2005, 10:17 AM

One of the funniest episodes ever... remember when James' car started leaking and he's like "I got so excited I pissed meself."

Great music too in the episode, and the Zonda F has to make the best sound of any car... just great.

PowerSlide · December 5th, 2005, 11:33 AM

Great show. Especially the Lisbon segment. images/smilies/tongue.gif

The annual Lisboa Downtown at Alfama is always spectacular.

The 2005 race was won by Britain's Steve Peat.

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December 5th, 2005, 03:06 AM	#21
Cruzz563 Cruzz563\|work Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2008 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Age: 24 Posts: 2,657 Rep Power: 25	I will/am at the moment, be posting the 'sode on a.b.multimedia again. It will be done in 2 hours, 45 minutes, that includes the PAR2 and all; about 2 hours, 15 minutes for just the RAR files. Enjoy! mykogwapo69 I unbanned you __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

December 5th, 2005, 04:02 AM	#22
DiB Joined: Dec 19th, 2004 Last Online: November 5th, 2007 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Entertaining but more filler then content. __________________

December 5th, 2005, 04:04 AM	#23
ATsucks Joined: Jul 20th, 2005 Last Online: May 30th, 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 118 Rep Power: 0	pretty unimpressive episode to be honest . It was cool that two records were broken and I admired the tribute to Richard Burns was very touching. But the short Zonda segment was too short, the Renault challenge was lame, the 10K supercar segment was predictable... the best part of the show was next weeks preview of the Veyron, its gotta be something special if they showed a teaser of this this epdisode, they don't do that very often, if at all. __________________

December 5th, 2005, 04:53 AM	#24
JoeBlo1 Joined: Feb 18th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Toronto Age: 23 Posts: 495 Rep Power: 20	Unimpressive? Some of you have your expectations way too high. This was one of the finest episodes I've seen so far. The Zonda F segment was a little too short but everything else was great. Kudos to Clarkson for the Richard Burns segment. I don't think Top Gear's ever done a preview of an upcoming episode, so the next one has to be brilliant! __________________ "If you have a target in your life, a real target, doesn´t matter if you are very poor or rich people, if you work hard and believe in God, you can get the success, success in the life." Ayrton Senna

December 5th, 2005, 04:59 AM	#25
logo Joined: Jul 18th, 2004 Last Online: November 30th, 2008 Location: Canada-Ottawa Posts: 1,698 Rep Power: 0	the hell with this episode... next week __________________ Adrenaline. Always Hungry, 1 n33d foods bebe!

December 5th, 2005, 05:55 AM	#26
awdrifter Joined: Aug 29th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Posts: 1,490 Rep Power: 25	The Zonda F segment is too short, but then they just did a extensive segment on the Zonda S last week, so it would probably be redundent. The Clio challenge is fun, it looks like it has good handling, but the turning radius is kinda bad. The $10k supercar segment is entertaining, but not much info. When they dyno the cars, they are only getting whp tho, so Hammon's Ferrari didn't actually lost 61hp, more like 40hp. Looking forward to next week's Veyron test, definitely looks good. __________________ TP

December 5th, 2005, 06:15 AM	#28
justvisiting Joined: Jun 1st, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: california and boston Age: 22 Posts: 259 Car: e46 bmw Rep Power: 15	Also.. didnt may say.. that the dynoed took data from the drag and converted the wheel hp to crank.. using some means i dont quite know.. __________________ if you plan to go to college with a nice car DONT. 9,000 dollars worth of repairs in 5 months with 3 different hit and runs due to cruddy parking spaces and sh*tty drivers... ::

December 5th, 2005, 06:43 AM	#29
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,988 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 234	Great episode, but next week's will be awesome! __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

December 5th, 2005, 07:17 AM	#31
Lusitano Joined: Apr 4th, 2005 Last Online: January 3rd, 2008 Location: Antes, Mealhada, Portugal Posts: 293 Car: SIS Sachs Motozax V5 Rep Power: 0	Great episode, but disappointing start. For such a great car as the Zonda F is, the segment was surely very short. The Clio vs. bike segment was fantastic! The bit with the old lady saying "Ai credo!" was hilarious! Hey, Bihus, was that near the Castle of St. Jorge? A couple of streets seemed familiar to me. Respect to the biker! I can not see myself do that in my mountain bike. Not at that speed, anyway. The Clio looked pretty good. It is one of the more popular cars in Portugal. Speaking of which, beautiful roads those James was driving on, before the race! The Italian supercar segment was also very funny. I feel sorry for the owner of that Nissan! __________________

December 5th, 2005, 07:27 AM	#32
jatinashokbhatia Joined: Apr 24th, 2005 Last Online: May 14th, 2006 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Very good episode. I think the Zonda review was better than Jason's in FG. Its too much of a coincidence that the 3 guys came up with 3 different marques.....a Ferrari, a Maserati and a Lambo and no repeats. I dont think they do the buying themselves. I think the cars are purchased for them and they do the selection or toss a coin or pick pieces of paper with names on it and then start the cheap car tests. In the last one, there was 1 German (BMW - which Hammond likes anyway), 1 Japanese (Mitsu - which Jeremy thinks is great) and James, with an English Jag. - just too much of a coincidence. I like Ellen's style and competitiveness...she is good. Fast too. James should have won that race....he loses too much.

December 5th, 2005, 07:41 AM	#33
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,643 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	One of the best episdoes in my opinion. Criticism: - zonda segment too short - some bits did feel like just filling the time, and a bit uncomplete - 10k challange could have been a bit better by giving some more challanges, and JC being a bit creative to win it What I liked: - 2 records broke - RB tribute - 10k supercar challange - I had literally tears in my eyes from laughing when Jeremy's engine exploded and went all into James' car, and I almost collapsed when he's brake went out 5seconds later and he drove into the bushes - stig with the vauxhall on 2 wheels - tears in my eyes again from laughing when they pushed the mondeo back - tears in my eyes when James rammed massivley the nissan while reversing, and later on screaming that "it doesn't fit" - clio vs bike was awesome, nice to see James pushing it and "scretching it a bit: Overall verdict: kick ass episode, with just a bit more touch could have been the best episode ever.

December 5th, 2005, 07:44 AM	#34
Johnny5 Joined: Nov 21st, 2005 Last Online: March 14th, 2007 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Even though James finally broke down like Jeremy and Hammond, at least he finally got the satisfaction of ditching them after they broke down. They always go have a drink while he struggles after breaking down. I liked seeing that.

December 5th, 2005, 07:54 AM	#36
jatinashokbhatia Joined: Apr 24th, 2005 Last Online: May 14th, 2006 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Based purely on looks, I think the Maserati was 1st, Ferrari 2nd, Lambo came 3rd.

December 5th, 2005, 09:37 AM	#38
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	Great episode! It was curious how nearly every song this episode could be found on either the Pulp Fiction or Snatch soundtracks. I won't be letting my dad watch this as I have been nagging him to buy a 308 GTB for a couple years now, and if he sees this he may just get a Porsche 944 or something silly like a new car The race in Portugal was awesome! I would have loved to see the whole thing from the bumper cam. I can't help but think that if you bought a car such as the Maserati in such poor condition, then changed the engine that it would be a pretty sweet car to drive around. Refresh the suspension components, give it some paint and polish and go about your daily business in style. The Zonda segment could have been a bit longer, maybe just more footage of it driving around. can't wait for the next one!

December 5th, 2005, 10:17 AM	#39
Shawn FG's Highest Paid Male Whore Joined: May 26th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,322 Car: IS250 RWD Rep Power: 86	One of the funniest episodes ever... remember when James' car started leaking and he's like "I got so excited I pissed meself." Great music too in the episode, and the Zonda F has to make the best sound of any car... just great.

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December 5th, 2005, 11:33 AM	#40
PowerSlide Joined: Mar 29th, 2005 Last Online: October 19th, 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Great show. Especially the Lisbon segment. The annual Lisboa Downtown at Alfama is always spectacular. The 2005 race was won by Britain's Steve Peat.

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