[08x02] May 14th, 2006 - Page 15

gloomy_DAY · May 19th, 2006, 06:37 AM

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The testing of the Z06 was great and the Corvette really surprised me, though the handling isn't as good as a European car.

Really.....hahah. The Z06 handles great and it would have not made it so fast around the track if it could not handle as well as it does.

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but that comparison for me, is insultng

You really need to get off your high horse man. What makes it insulting? The cars are in the same class and competing against each other in the markets.

How come cars with up to 120hp less are faster than Z06 if its such a great handler? Most sports car companies new toys are coming out over the next two years so it will slip back down soon enough.

They are not in each others markets, a ferrari is a exotic, luxury sport car, the Z06 is heavy track car.

Heavy? You must not know a single thing about this car because it is anything but heavy. Even Jezza pointed that out! This car weighs slightly under 3K and packs quite a big punch with the 7.0 litre V8.

Ferrari can be as exotic as it wants to be and cushion the buttocks of its high maintenance clientel. No matter though, because if you wanted a true track car without any compromise then the ZO6 is the route to go.

VWKafer · May 19th, 2006, 06:47 AM

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Is it just me or did hammond hitting the big ice cube seem a little too, planned?

if you mean the camera was in the exact spot to catch the shot, then yes, but remember, as clarkson said, they do the race, then go back and film various bits like that. Hammond could very well have hit the ice in the race, they missed the shot(or just got the in car) and set up an exterior shot afterwards. It's what I would do.

not like that would hurt the bowler...

GraemeH · May 19th, 2006, 07:46 AM

The thing is, even if they're going to script something like that, I'd like them to make it less obvious. As you said, the camera was right on it positioned ready for it. Why? That's good directing in an action movie, bad directing in top gear. Have it shot from a camera further back, not properly focused or pointing right at him, then suddenly shaking into focus and zooming as he's about to go into it, as if the camera man is going "oh my god!" and panicking to get the shot.

If you're going to fake something make it look like it wasn't faked at least. That's my only complaint about the scripting, and about the director.

Mally Dangerous · May 19th, 2006, 08:10 AM

I, personally, have no issue with the scripted crash. I've come to expect these kind of things from TG. In almost every race they do something to heighten the drama. To make you wonder who is really going to win.

Yes, I know it's scripted perfectly but I just take it as entertainment.

I mean think about the Z06/flame race, you can tell that the flames aren't a coming from a line of fuel. Look at how the flames mushroom and explode. It's not a smooth flame that would occur if it was a just a line of fuel. They were doing it with pyrotechnics. It's all done to make things more interesting to watch.

zenkidori · May 19th, 2006, 08:14 AM

Top Gear isn't a fucking reality show.

Is it just me or has every single argument on this board been done over at least 6 times?

TGRequiem · May 19th, 2006, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mally Dangerous

I, personally, have no issue with the scripted crash. I've come to expect these kind of things from TG. In almost every race they do something to heighten the drama. To make you wonder who is really going to win.

Yes, I know it's scripted perfectly but I just take it as entertainment.

I mean think about the Z06/flame race, you can tell that the flames aren't a coming from a line of fuel. Look at how the flames mushroom and explode. It's not a smooth flame that would occur if it was a just a line of fuel. They were doing it with pyrotechnics. It's all done to make things more interesting to watch.

First post here.. Hello everyone images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Registered just to say that I'm wondering why everyone's banging on TG for its scriptedness. If I wanted boring reality, I'd just get out of my house for a while and watch the grass grow or something. The scripted stuff is part of what makes TG awesome!

And some people have been asking what the point of the Tomcat vs Jet-propelled kayak race was. I don't know, but it made me want a Tomcat and a jet-propelled kayak, and I think that's damn good... Seriously, the editing, the camerawork and the soundtrack for that race was top-notch, probably only topped in this episode by the Jag review when the BMW and Merc made their pompous entrance. Plus, that Tomcat sounded like an off-road Ferrari... images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

I think that's the difference between TG stuff and FG stuff. FG to me is like a glorified sales brochure. I can get the stats and figures from the net, and the presenters... except for Tom, none of them can really present well. TG on the other hand makes me feel like I'm driving the cars they're reviewing, like I'm part of the experience (especially the Zonda / Ferrari / Ford GT ep). Just like the kayak segment here. I really didn't care much for the latest FG episode where Tiff basically reviewed a gearbox instead of a car. images/smilies/wacko.gif

mainpolla · May 19th, 2006, 12:41 PM

Hey everyone!

Does anybody know what is the song´s title that was played in the first episode during the preview of this new season?

thanks

Kebab gud · May 19th, 2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mally Dangerous

I, personally, have no issue with the scripted crash. I've come to expect these kind of things from TG. In almost every race they do something to heighten the drama. To make you wonder who is really going to win.

this seson it almost looks like there ending every episode with them running away images/smilies/tongue.gif

(carwash, Radio, whats next? images/smilies/tongue.gif

)

bartboy9891 · May 19th, 2006, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by zenkidori

Top Gear isn't a fucking reality show.

Is it just me or has every single argument on this board been done over at least 6 times?

thats because everyone takes everything too seriously

rubenanibal · May 19th, 2006, 02:42 PM

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dont forget the F-150 Lightning one (August 7th, 2005)....this happens only when JC bashed about American cars...I wonder why it never happens with German, French and Korean cars?...

Probably because there are less German, French and Korean members here...

you are absolutly right...North Americans are EVERYWHERE

No Boss · May 19th, 2006, 04:12 PM

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Is it just me or did hammond hitting the big ice cube seem a little too, planned?

Yeah, but thats like saying "Didn't it seem wierd how there was a camera already in the bathroom convienently when Hammond had to use the loo?". Zenkidori pretty much answered you though.

TV isn't real life.

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Is it just me or has every single argument on this board been done over at least 6 times?

Yeah it has. I have this feeling the people bringing them back to life are just a handfull of immature teenagers that think they know everything.

I think Finalgear.com needs a kiddie table.

youngwarrior · May 19th, 2006, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gloomy_DAY

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Originally Posted by youngwarrior

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Originally Posted by jetsetter

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The testing of the Z06 was great and the Corvette really surprised me, though the handling isn't as good as a European car.

Really.....hahah. The Z06 handles great and it would have not made it so fast around the track if it could not handle as well as it does.

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but that comparison for me, is insultng

You really need to get off your high horse man. What makes it insulting? The cars are in the same class and competing against each other in the markets.

How come cars with up to 120hp less are faster than Z06 if its such a great handler? Most sports car companies new toys are coming out over the next two years so it will slip back down soon enough.

They are not in each others markets, a ferrari is a exotic, luxury sport car, the Z06 is heavy track car.

Heavy? You must not know a single thing about this car because it is anything but heavy. Even Jezza pointed that out! This car weighs slightly under 3K and packs quite a big punch with the 7.0 litre V8.

Ferrari can be as exotic as it wants to be and cushion the buttocks of its high maintenance clientel. No matter though, because if you wanted a true track car without any compromise then the ZO6 is the route to go.

Z06 weighs in at just over 1400KG. Its european competition all weigh around 1050KG with a average of 450bhp whilst costing less than or the same as the Z06. Now can you see why Europeans arent impressed with the Z06? images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

GraemeH · May 19th, 2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zenkidori

Top Gear isn't a fucking reality show.

Is it just me or has every single argument on this board been done over at least 6 times?

You need to better your reading comprehension skills.

I'm happy for scripted events to happen. I suggested that the new director make more of an effort to hide them.

Cool down.

youngwarrior · May 19th, 2006, 07:53 PM

Hey Z06 fanboys look here

http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic...1490&start=120

jetsetter · May 19th, 2006, 10:29 PM

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Its european competition all weigh around 1050KG with a average of 450bhp whilst costing less than or the same as the Z06.

Could you please list this "European competition"?

bartboy9891 · May 19th, 2006, 10:44 PM

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Its european competition all weigh around 1050KG with a average of 450bhp whilst costing less than or the same as the Z06.

Could you please list this "European competition"?

TVR T440R comes to mind with those stats. but its not cheaper than the ZO6

ClarksonIsFat · May 20th, 2006, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jetsetter

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Its european competition all weigh around 1050KG with a average of 450bhp whilst costing less than or the same as the Z06.

Could you please list this "European competition"?

Don't bother asking him to clarify. All his "facts" are nothing more than opinion with no substance to back them up.

SL65 · May 20th, 2006, 04:17 AM

^Resize your sig. Rules permit 600x175 pixels. Mine is exactly that so it shouldn't be any bigger.

zenkidori · May 20th, 2006, 09:07 AM

SL65 · May 20th, 2006, 09:14 AM

^Thats two spam like posts from you. Don't keep it up mate images/smilies/mad.gif

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GraemeH Joined: Apr 19th, 2005 Last Online: 02:14 AM Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 1,898 Car: Toyota Corolla. Rawrr. LFS Status: Rep Power: 22	The thing is, even if they're going to script something like that, I'd like them to make it less obvious. As you said, the camera was right on it positioned ready for it. Why? That's good directing in an action movie, bad directing in top gear. Have it shot from a camera further back, not properly focused or pointing right at him, then suddenly shaking into focus and zooming as he's about to go into it, as if the camera man is going "oh my god!" and panicking to get the shot. If you're going to fake something make it look like it wasn't faked at least. That's my only complaint about the scripting, and about the director. __________________

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May 19th, 2006, 08:10 AM	#284
Mally Dangerous Joined: Oct 31st, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Atlanta Posts: 510 Rep Power: 21	I, personally, have no issue with the scripted crash. I've come to expect these kind of things from TG. In almost every race they do something to heighten the drama. To make you wonder who is really going to win. Yes, I know it's scripted perfectly but I just take it as entertainment. I mean think about the Z06/flame race, you can tell that the flames aren't a coming from a line of fuel. Look at how the flames mushroom and explode. It's not a smooth flame that would occur if it was a just a line of fuel. They were doing it with pyrotechnics. It's all done to make things more interesting to watch.

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zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	Top Gear isn't a fucking reality show. Is it just me or has every single argument on this board been done over at least 6 times?

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mainpolla Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: November 29th, 2008 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Hey everyone! Does anybody know what is the song´s title that was played in the first episode during the preview of this new season? thanks

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youngwarrior Joined: May 16th, 2006 Last Online: September 12th, 2006 Posts: 445 Rep Power: 0	Hey Z06 fanboys look here http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic...1490&start=120

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SL65 Ambitious but rubbish! Joined: Jul 12th, 2004 Last Online: 02:49 AM Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 18 Posts: 9,196 Car: 1998 Subaru Legacy 2.5L Rep Power: 41	^Thats two spam like posts from you. Don't keep it up mate

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