[08x05] June 4th, 2006 - Page 7

tomppa · June 11th, 2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripplin

Nah, I can do that myself. I was just pointing out that while he's asking about the legality of using screencaps here, his avatar is a screencap, so... images/smilies/tongue.gif

hahah
I had that question in my message for two minutes or so. and then I realised how stupid I was to ask images/smilies/biggrin.gif

I want a hair like jackies...

acky3000 · June 12th, 2006, 08:36 AM

you mean may's? lol

i gonna get meself some white rimmed sunglasses.

Nouvelle Chicane · June 13th, 2006, 06:56 AM

i think this episode is kinda weak... a bit boring... i love the visual effects though images/smilies/eek.gif

My favourite bits was the news and the racing lesson... very good. But i was a little annoyed at the way Jeremy reviewed the C6. I know it was spose to be funny (maybe) by disliking it for not being the crazy car that it was anymore. But damn that car is flash!

I'm ungry for supercar reviews... gimme me more... images/smilies/cry.gif

maximus · June 13th, 2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by skr

To see Jackie Stewart in action was amazing....and on such a beautiful track made it even more worth watching.
Those sunglasses rocked....I wish I had a pair of those images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Yeah, it was Oulton Park, a great place and I reccomend it to anyone if they ever want to watch some live racing.

Kelestar · June 14th, 2006, 01:44 PM

It would have been great if Hammond and Clarkson had have driven around the same track as James to see if they were now slower than Captain Slow!

the Interceptor · June 15th, 2006, 05:47 PM

I just played another round of Gran Turismo 4, and browsing my garage, I stumbled over the Hyundai Clix (2001):

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/7065/inhyundaiclix8wo.th.jpg

Does anyone else see any parallels to the Prodrive P2?

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5859/46043c7566ec91998uh.th.jpg

The Hyundai has a 2.2 litre 4-cylinder turbo with 303hp and 4WD. Sounds pretty similar to me. Just a coincidence, or a rude copy by prodrive? images/smilies/dry.gif

amaank · June 16th, 2006, 06:09 AM

lol jeremy mistakes the blow off valve for the wastegate! images/smilies/tongue.gif

and the blow off valve on that prodrive makes me tingly!

Nivlek · June 18th, 2006, 08:31 PM

Just to think about jackie's explanation about not go on and off the throttle, the stig on the Prodrive P2 lap time, he went off and on the throttle. I dont know if anyone noticed that

Peter3hg · June 18th, 2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by amaank

lol jeremy mistakes the blow off valve for the wastegate! images/smilies/tongue.gif

and the blow off valve on that prodrive makes me tingly!

There practically the same thing. Theres no real need to be that picky.
Admittedly a waste gate is silent but he does say he knows nothing about turbos so give him a break.

zenkidori · June 19th, 2006, 08:17 AM

you're dumb, they are not the same thing, AT ALL.

edit: to elaborate, the wastegate bleeds EXHAUST gasses off to keep the turbo from over boosting, the blow off valve(or pop off valve or like 10^10 other names) bleeds air from the INTAKE side to alleviate compressor surge.

two different devices, two different purposes. No, they are not basically the same thing, at all.

also, both BOVs and wastegates can be loud or silent, depending on thier design and how you run them. The twin Tial setup on a friends old saab could DEFINATELY be heard when it opened up, but my stock WG barely makes a peep. My stock BOV makes no discernable noise, but my SSQV is quite loud.

fbc · June 19th, 2006, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by zenkidori

you're dumb, they are not the same thing, AT ALL.

Whatever the case may be - leave the personal attacks for elsewhere.

Peter3hg · June 19th, 2006, 12:41 PM

The fluttering noise on the Prodrive is due to a lack of a blow-off valve or the blow off valve being poorly adjusted. The sound is the air escaping back through the turbo.
And there really is no need to call me dumb. Just because I don't know the inner workings off a turbo doesn't make me dumb. I'm sure there are plenty of things I know that you don't but that doesn't make you dumb.

zenkidori · June 19th, 2006, 04:12 PM

I called you dumb cause I was half drunk, sorry about that, but still, they aren't the same thing, at all. Plus niether are the inner workings of the turbo. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

hungus · June 21st, 2006, 01:47 AM

Hey "half drunk". There are different types of waste gates, some internal, some external. I don't know what the P2 had, but if it's internal, it IS part of the turbo.

petraman · June 21st, 2006, 03:04 AM

While we're on the subject...

Ripplin · June 21st, 2006, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by petraman

While we're on the subject...

That's hilarious! Thanks for the laughs! images/smilies/lol.gif

zenkidori · June 21st, 2006, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hungus

Hey "half drunk". There are different types of waste gates, some internal, some external. I don't know what the P2 had, but if it's internal, it IS part of the turbo.

technically it's a peripheral either way. My stock WG is "internal" but is still considered periphery. It's not really "internal" at all, if you've ever looked at one, it just is mated to the turbo exhaust housing rather than the exhaust manifold.

amaank · June 21st, 2006, 05:12 AM

eek didn't mean to start an argument lol!!

But yeah, bov sound..ext. wg sound... big difference. That p2 has an IHI vf39 turbocharger which does indeed have an internal wg and is silent. So yep its the bov making squirrel noises.

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Originally Posted by peter3hg2

Quote:

Originally Posted by amaank

lol jeremy mistakes the blow off valve for the wastegate! images/smilies/tongue.gif

and the blow off valve on that prodrive makes me tingly!

Theres no real need to be that picky.

You're right its no big deal, hence the tonguey face, mate. 8)

hungus · June 22nd, 2006, 12:19 AM

Here's something we can all agree on. Less World Cup, more TOP GEAR!!!!! images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

zenkidori · June 22nd, 2006, 02:59 AM

It's funny watching all the immigrants get into the world cup and all the natives sit around and go, "WTF?".

"football" is such a joke in America. I watched the brazilians play on TV a little while ago, it was decent. But I went to a match here and it sucked. Boring as hell and nobody but a bunch of vatos went.

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June 13th, 2006, 06:56 AM	#123
Nouvelle Chicane Joined: Oct 13th, 2005 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	i think this episode is kinda weak... a bit boring... i love the visual effects though My favourite bits was the news and the racing lesson... very good. But i was a little annoyed at the way Jeremy reviewed the C6. I know it was spose to be funny (maybe) by disliking it for not being the crazy car that it was anymore. But damn that car is flash! I'm ungry for supercar reviews... gimme me more... __________________

June 14th, 2006, 01:44 PM	#125
Kelestar Joined: Jun 3rd, 2006 Last Online: October 21st, 2007 Location: Leicester, UK Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	It would have been great if Hammond and Clarkson had have driven around the same track as James to see if they were now slower than Captain Slow! __________________ 2, 4, 6, 8, James May... Ja-James M-May... There's only one radio show... and it's Top Geario... o... I've been driving in my car, listening to Jeremy Clar... kson...

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the Interceptor I LUV MY PRIUS!!! Joined: Feb 22nd, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Germany Posts: 2,289 Car: BMW E36 323i superleggera (-85 kg) Rep Power: 56	I just played another round of Gran Turismo 4, and browsing my garage, I stumbled over the Hyundai Clix (2001): Does anyone else see any parallels to the Prodrive P2? The Hyundai has a 2.2 litre 4-cylinder turbo with 303hp and 4WD. Sounds pretty similar to me. Just a coincidence, or a rude copy by prodrive? __________________ "We have to laugh at the Germans, because they're so riddled with guilt about their history, they can't laugh at themselves." - Jeremy Clarkson Ken Rockwell on recommended cameras: "If you don't have the time to read the rest of this page, you want a Nikon D40."

June 16th, 2006, 06:09 AM	#127
amaank Joined: Nov 8th, 2005 Last Online: January 8th, 2009 Posts: 37 Rep Power: 0	lol jeremy mistakes the blow off valve for the wastegate! and the blow off valve on that prodrive makes me tingly! __________________

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Nivlek Joined: Sep 15th, 2005 Last Online: November 3rd, 2008 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Just to think about jackie's explanation about not go on and off the throttle, the stig on the Prodrive P2 lap time, he went off and on the throttle. I dont know if anyone noticed that

June 19th, 2006, 08:17 AM	#130
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	you're dumb, they are not the same thing, AT ALL. edit: to elaborate, the wastegate bleeds EXHAUST gasses off to keep the turbo from over boosting, the blow off valve(or pop off valve or like 10^10 other names) bleeds air from the INTAKE side to alleviate compressor surge. two different devices, two different purposes. No, they are not basically the same thing, at all. also, both BOVs and wastegates can be loud or silent, depending on thier design and how you run them. The twin Tial setup on a friends old saab could DEFINATELY be heard when it opened up, but my stock WG barely makes a peep. My stock BOV makes no discernable noise, but my SSQV is quite loud.

June 19th, 2006, 12:41 PM	#132
Peter3hg Joined: May 3rd, 2006 Last Online: 01:52 AM Location: Breast Hill Castle, Angleland Age: 19 Posts: 3,837 Car: 2006 Yamaha Fazer LFS Status: Rep Power: 32	The fluttering noise on the Prodrive is due to a lack of a blow-off valve or the blow off valve being poorly adjusted. The sound is the air escaping back through the turbo. And there really is no need to call me dumb. Just because I don't know the inner workings off a turbo doesn't make me dumb. I'm sure there are plenty of things I know that you don't but that doesn't make you dumb. __________________

June 19th, 2006, 04:12 PM	#133
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	I called you dumb cause I was half drunk, sorry about that, but still, they aren't the same thing, at all. Plus niether are the inner workings of the turbo.

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hungus Joined: May 23rd, 2006 Last Online: October 25th, 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	Hey "half drunk". There are different types of waste gates, some internal, some external. I don't know what the P2 had, but if it's internal, it IS part of the turbo. __________________ Let me tell ya what Melba Toast is packin'. We got 411 positrack out back, 750 double pumper, Edelbroc intakes, Ford over-30, 11-to-1 pop-up pistons, Turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some fuckin' muscle.

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petraman Joined: Jun 11th, 2006 Last Online: August 9th, 2006 Location: Granville, Ohio. Home of the country road :-D Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	While we're on the subject... __________________ "The thing is that it's a gearbox, ok? It has one job to do, one job! Pull the lever: Am I a pencil? Am I cauliflower? I'M A GEARBOX! OH HEAVENS! I MUST SWAP SOME COGS AROUND!" - JC on the Smart Coupe Roadster

June 22nd, 2006, 12:19 AM	#139
hungus Joined: May 23rd, 2006 Last Online: October 25th, 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	Here's something we can all agree on. Less World Cup, more TOP GEAR!!!!! __________________ Let me tell ya what Melba Toast is packin'. We got 411 positrack out back, 750 double pumper, Edelbroc intakes, Ford over-30, 11-to-1 pop-up pistons, Turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some fuckin' muscle.

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zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	It's funny watching all the immigrants get into the world cup and all the natives sit around and go, "WTF?". "football" is such a joke in America. I watched the brazilians play on TV a little while ago, it was decent. But I went to a match here and it sucked. Boring as hell and nobody but a bunch of vatos went.

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