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LTB · August 7th, 2006, 05:17 PM

The "Scandinavian Flick" was invented by Swedish and Norwegian rally
drivers to get a front wheel drive car around a corner quickly on slippery
surface like gravel or snow.

I think that Erik "on the roof" Carlsson was the first international driver
who used this technique in the two-stroke SAAB 93 and 96.

Doesn't the van Hammond had have rear wheel drive?
Why not just do a 50hp power slide?

Seams like they wanted to flip it over.

Steve Levin · August 7th, 2006, 11:11 PM

I can see JC now...

"Not only are we designing cars on Top Gear, we are motivating F1 drivers! I ask Jenson Button when he's finally going to win a race, so he goes right out and wins one for me!"

bartboy9891 · August 7th, 2006, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTB

The "Scandinavian Flick" was invented by Swedish and Norwegian rally
drivers to get a front wheel drive car around a corner quickly on slippery
surface like gravel or snow.

I think that Erik "on the roof" Carlsson was the first international driver
who used this technique in the two-stroke SAAB 93 and 96.

Doesn't the van Hammond had have rear wheel drive?
Why not just do a 50hp power slide?

Seams like they wanted to flip it over.

im sure the suzuki understeers quite a bit, which van doesnt?

ScabNainz · August 8th, 2006, 10:16 PM

This one did have its moments, especially Hammond's van flip, which was just gorgeous. One thing I caught is Jeremy's accidental creation of a new word. As James demonstrates his van's bus-like door, Jeremy blurts out, "God, that's a stuperb thing!" images/smilies/lol.gif

The review of the M15 was solid, but not a stand-out. Hammond's really improved with his power-sliding 8)

On the whole, this series was entertaining, but not the greatest. I like the fatuous challenges well enough, but it lacked some of the petrolhead element, and some of the reviews were half-assed (the super-saloons, for example). Maybe it's just me, but I think something the reviews lacked was some amount of context. For example, when Hammond reviewed the 3-series, he motivated it by doing a bit about the decline of "Mondeo Man," which I thought was quite interesting. With this series, I got more of the sense of, "Here's the car, and here's what we think of it, and now here's us messing around." It's ok, but it just doesn't seem quite as informative as series past.

Still can't wait for series 9...

Danny Tran · August 10th, 2006, 06:25 AM

Ehhhhhhhhhh....

THe Stig driving the M15 looks tiny: his head (helmet)-to shoulder ratio lools smaller.

It<s as if he were a girl..

COuld this Stig be Jansen Button??

Cobol74 · August 10th, 2006, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Tran

Ehhhhhhhhhh....

THe Stig driving the M15 looks tiny: his head (helmet)-to shoulder ratio lools smaller.

It<s as if he were a girl..

COuld this Stig be Jansen Button??

Honda would go ballistic if it were - supposing he got hurt, doesn't bear thinking about.

Here is a question what other car show could get F1 or even Indy car drivers on it to play about? Says something about its reputation I think.

skr · August 12th, 2006, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartboy9891

im sure the suzuki understeers quite a bit, which van doesnt?

An empty 91' Transit with a 2 litre petrol engine....it beautifully oversteers images/smilies/wink.gif

I loved driving that van....till our company sold it images/smilies/sad.gif

Now we have stupid Passat TDI's images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

dice · August 12th, 2006, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skr

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartboy9891

im sure the suzuki understeers quite a bit, which van doesnt?

An empty 91' Transit with a 2 litre petrol engine....it beautifully oversteers images/smilies/wink.gif

I loved driving that van....till our company sold it images/smilies/sad.gif

Now we have stupid Passat TDI's images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

I think Hammond says his van is 900cc.

skr · August 12th, 2006, 04:17 PM

Are you trying to say that a 900cc van will never be able to oversteer?

bartboy9891 · August 12th, 2006, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skr

Are you trying to say that a 900cc van will never be able to oversteer?

i really have no idea what these commercial vans handle like. Id expect them to have a lot of understeer and then, when the load of the weight switches sides, it turns into oversteer.

etagloh · August 13th, 2006, 02:47 AM

Looks like Clarkson felt the same way as most of us about the whole Who/van segment -- great in theory, not so great in practice:

Quote:

You may have seen an item on Top Gear recently where the three presenters were roadies for the Who. At the editorial meeting that sounded brilliant. “Imagine. We all get lost. Our vans break down. And the band have to go on stage the next night and do an acoustic set because we broke their amps. Ha, ha, ha.”

Of course, someone pointed out that we couldn’t actually do any of that because 80,000 people had bought tickets and the Who weren’t going to let them down just because three apes from a pokey motoring show on BBC2 wanted a laugh. So obviously we couldn’t get lost. And we couldn’t break their equipment and we couldn’t break down either.

Collective thinking, however, decided that it was still a great idea. And so it went on television. And it wasn’t.

youngwarrior · August 14th, 2006, 03:42 PM

what was the guests name on this episode? I wanna watch the bit were he makes fun of arnie. Or was that a prievious episode?

Peter3hg · August 14th, 2006, 04:04 PM

Steve Coogan was the guys name but that was on the previous episode.

Ringo Shells · August 14th, 2006, 04:54 PM

..in a pink shirt!!! horrid looking thing, damn near blinded me!!

Peter3hg · August 14th, 2006, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ringo Shells

..in a pink shirt!!! horrid looking thing, damn near blinded me!!

He also got very sweaty in it which wasnt too pleasant.

optimusprime · August 14th, 2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Tran

It<s as if he were a girl..

COuld this Stig be Jansen Button??

Are you calling Jensen Button a girl?

NecroJoe · August 14th, 2006, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by optimusprime

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Tran

It<s as if he were a girl..

COuld this Stig be Jansen Button??

Are you calling Jensen Button a girl?

I was confused by post that as well...

Buba · August 18th, 2006, 12:08 AM

Just watching it again...

Jenson was pretty fast, only .1 away from Mansell. In the recent Sport Auto they retested a Cayman S against a Z4M Coupe, same as they tested for the previous issue (identical car with same tires, not worn) and the Caymen lost 1,2 sec around the small Hockenheim due to 20°C Temp change... If you argue a low tech car looses less, you still could give it a 0,3 secv advantage, which means STIG speed..

Just as a reminder.

Lusitano · September 1st, 2006, 10:06 PM

hummmm...

I have not watched any Gear since I left the states two months ago. I finally received my things (via container ship) and only now will I get my computer going again.
Well, maybe not now, since I am in Portugal, which is known to be a bit slow in just about anything and everything.

Jareb · September 3rd, 2006, 09:19 PM

I wasn't all that thrilled by 8 8 either. Also, does anybody else think that the Hammond flip thing was intentional?

August 7th, 2006, 05:17 PM	#101
LTB Joined: Sep 9th, 2005 Last Online: November 21st, 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	The "Scandinavian Flick" was invented by Swedish and Norwegian rally drivers to get a front wheel drive car around a corner quickly on slippery surface like gravel or snow. I think that Erik "on the roof" Carlsson was the first international driver who used this technique in the two-stroke SAAB 93 and 96. Doesn't the van Hammond had have rear wheel drive? Why not just do a 50hp power slide? Seams like they wanted to flip it over. __________________ /Thomas "When I start my car, I want my neighbors to think the world is coming to an end." Homer Simpson

August 8th, 2006, 10:16 PM	#104
ScabNainz Joined: Aug 8th, 2006 Last Online: September 19th, 2006 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	This one did have its moments, especially Hammond's van flip, which was just gorgeous. One thing I caught is Jeremy's accidental creation of a new word. As James demonstrates his van's bus-like door, Jeremy blurts out, "God, that's a stuperb thing!" The review of the M15 was solid, but not a stand-out. Hammond's really improved with his power-sliding 8) On the whole, this series was entertaining, but not the greatest. I like the fatuous challenges well enough, but it lacked some of the petrolhead element, and some of the reviews were half-assed (the super-saloons, for example). Maybe it's just me, but I think something the reviews lacked was some amount of context. For example, when Hammond reviewed the 3-series, he motivated it by doing a bit about the decline of "Mondeo Man," which I thought was quite interesting. With this series, I got more of the sense of, "Here's the car, and here's what we think of it, and now here's us messing around." It's ok, but it just doesn't seem quite as informative as series past. Still can't wait for series 9...

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Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 6,031 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 40	Just watching it again... Jenson was pretty fast, only .1 away from Mansell. In the recent Sport Auto they retested a Cayman S against a Z4M Coupe, same as they tested for the previous issue (identical car with same tires, not worn) and the Caymen lost 1,2 sec around the small Hockenheim due to 20°C Temp change... If you argue a low tech car looses less, you still could give it a 0,3 secv advantage, which means STIG speed.. Just as a reminder. __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

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Lusitano Joined: Apr 4th, 2005 Last Online: January 3rd, 2008 Location: Antes, Mealhada, Portugal Posts: 293 Car: SIS Sachs Motozax V5 Rep Power: 0	hummmm... I have not watched any Gear since I left the states two months ago. I finally received my things (via container ship) and only now will I get my computer going again. Well, maybe not now, since I am in Portugal, which is known to be a bit slow in just about anything and everything. __________________

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Jareb Joined: Sep 3rd, 2006 Last Online: August 24th, 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	I wasn't all that thrilled by 8 8 either. Also, does anybody else think that the Hammond flip thing was intentional?

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