[10x02] October 14th, 2007 - Page 10

IceBone · October 17th, 2007, 10:37 PM

Clarkson said: Jesus does not go to/like Fifth gear.

Peter3hg · October 17th, 2007, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by IceBone

Well, then like the golf's...pretty much everything, it doesn't work. That bit of the track faces east, not north to give N.

That bit of the track faces North East. If he had just moved across to the left side of the track after the right hander then North would be correct. The display is probably just slightly slow at updating.

Roberto · October 18th, 2007, 12:20 AM

Great episode.. Jules Holland was a little bit dissapointing. Great challenge. Im looking forward to the BL challenge coming up soon.

Great use of Casino Royale soundtrack.. I reckon someone at TG likes 007 music, good choice images/smilies/smile.gif

Queen of Meh · October 18th, 2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 3Colin

I just noticed something. After the Jesus joke, Hammond says "that's never been said before!"

Hopefully he'll relay his concerns to the writers... =)

In the news uncut bit I believe Richard says: Noboady's ever said the son of God does not go to Fifth Gear, before

ycchan · October 18th, 2007, 10:46 AM

Top Gear is funny as ever but I'm still disappointed. Once again, there was only one proper car review.

Scoop · October 18th, 2007, 12:38 PM

I think everyone should understand it's no longer just a review show of super cars that we're probably never gona own, or when we'll get the revenue to own one in 10-20 years there will be new ones, i enjoy very much the new format with these chalanges, who would have thought that a nissan pick-up with an outboard would cross the english channel.

Austere · October 18th, 2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoop

I think everyone should understand it's no longer just a review show of super cars that we're probably never gona own....

It never really was that, tho. It was always a show where they reviewed all kinds of cars from all price brackets. It's only recently (mainly the last season and a half) where they've started focusing mainly on supercars (when they bother to review a car at all).

ycchan · October 18th, 2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoop

I think everyone should understand it's no longer just a review show of super cars that we're probably never gona own, or when we'll get the revenue to own one in 10-20 years

I don't follow. Just because you can't afford one doesn't make it right to imply everyone here cannot as well.

Laba · October 18th, 2007, 05:12 PM

I like the supercar reviews more. Because everyone can go and drive a Ford Focus etc. But you have to be something special (rich £$€ ) to drive a Veyron, Zonda or an Enzo(especially on a track). And I'm not. And I doubt that almost anyone isn't either over here.

But an occasional normal car review by an professional wouldn't hurt every now and then...

Red_Bull · October 18th, 2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by No Boss

I just searched and saw no one mentioned it... But the thought of smearing honey into Keira Knightley, well it made me take my attention away from R8 for a moment.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8336/keiraknightley1300400iu9.jpg

I was going to write a well formed post about my thoughts of the episode, but now I can't remember what I was gonna write. Doesn't matter actually... 8)

IceBone · October 18th, 2007, 05:59 PM

Keira Knightley ftl
Keira knightley + 10kg ftw

Bakis · October 19th, 2007, 05:10 AM

So u would say no, if she offered?

IceBone · October 19th, 2007, 12:20 PM

hell no! and during the course of the fuck fest, i'd introduce her to a wholesome food diet so the woman can get some curves.

indianajohn · October 19th, 2007, 12:56 PM

Austere, you are absolutely spot on. Before series 7, Top Gear was simply the best thing on TV. It's currently quite dismal, for the exact reasons you gave. Well done. I agree with everything, and what's with the supercar only reviews? Some of the BEST Top Gear segments ever were of stuff like the Nissan Cube and the pacific rim cars and the Honda Element. It still feels like I haven't seen any new Top Gear for years now.

Austere · October 19th, 2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by indianajohn

Austere, you are absolutely spot on. Before series 7, Top Gear was simply the best thing on TV. It's currently quite dismal, for the exact reasons you gave. Well done. I agree with everything, and what's with the supercar only reviews? Some of the BEST Top Gear segments ever were of stuff like the Nissan Cube and the pacific rim cars and the Honda Element. It still feels like I haven't seen any new Top Gear for years now.

Thanks, man and I know what you mean. I still feel like I'm waiting for it to come back too. I honestly thought series 10 would be the one but it's not looking good thus far.

Can you believe the last proper review was waaay back in 2005? ...Crazy

It was the Golf R32 vs BMW 130i - Just thinking about that review has made me get 'Girls' by 'Death In Vegas' stuck in my head. images/smilies/lol.gif

That scene at the end of the clip where the Golf comes storming through the rain and the song builds as Jeremy gives his final words... Awesomeness. Why can't they do that anymore! images/smilies/sad.gif

airmenair · October 19th, 2007, 04:58 PM

Damn, I just wrote a really long response and my computer dumped it. I'm pissed images/smilies/blowup.gif

Anyway, I'll try to sum it up:

I think that the past two series (8,9) have had the Top Gear soul missing, and until now, I haven't been able to put my finger on it. I think that alot of the enjoyment came from the guys reviewing un-super cars, average cars, and horrid cars. Say, for example the Pacific Rimmers, or the Prius, or the James's secret Rover test drive or the 24 hours in the Smart Car. And it's not just the review of the cars itself, it's how the reviews are done. Creatively. The test of the Smart Car was inspired by the brochure that said that it felt like a "lounge." JC's test of the Prius, which he based of the new Hybrid Technology and how horrible it was. The Pacific Rimmers' which were tested as a group, and then narrowed down to the best of the worst. And etc. I like it when they put the car they are testing in its element or even out of it's element or using it the way the think it is supposed to be used. It makes for a funnier, and more entertaining test. As opposed to driving round the track, and commenting on its speed, handling, etc. These types of tests provided good transitions and sub-material to supplement other parts of the show. Instead of the format: Supercar-News-Challenge-SIARPC-Challenge, which is what I've kind of seen patterened over the past couple of series, they've had some other reviews.

Testing supercars all the time takes away from the magic of the event from both the audience and the presenters. I imagine that the presenters are naturally going to lack some enthusiasm when they test in all honesty a fabulous and fast car, but only say a week ago, they drove an even faster car, so it's a bit of a psychological let down.

Alot of the challenges they've done lately are quite lengthy in actual filming and prep time and when they try to squeeze it into an hour program it comes out kind of hashed and unsatisfying, which is how I felt after the latest amphibious car challenge. Seems like they're trying to fit a whole lot of stuff into a small time slot, and I think it wouldn't be a terrible thing if they dedicated nearly an entire episode for a challenge (which I enjoy) but not every show. The latest amphibious car challenge has actually an epic achievement, but the way it was presented didn't feel very epic. It felt like it was thrown in at the last minute.

I alway remember the music in my favorite scenes from the show becuase it fit so well and added another dimension to the scene, but honestly I can't remember really anything from most of the past few series. A few things stick out like some of the music in the amphibious cars, part I. But on the whole, it has been anything but memorable.

I don't like being a critic because I appreciate what these three guys do and provide for us, and I am infintely grateful for it, but I guess its hard not to be sometimes. That about sums it up, I could go into more detail, but I don't want to make it that long.

Ilpav · October 19th, 2007, 05:26 PM

Yes. I would like to see more cheaper cars than expensive cars (which I love). 10x03 will have more cars than challenges though. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

And the "old-style" car reviews will be back with the M5 Touring vs. E63 AMG Touring. images/smilies/smile.gif

Valtiel · October 19th, 2007, 06:13 PM

There seems to be two types of people on here, the ones that like old Top Gear (more serious, focuses on car reviews) and the ones that like new Top Gear (more humourous, more challenges)

Personally I prefer new Top Gear, I don't even bother watching Fifth Gear as it bores me to tears, and while the car reviews in Top Gear are at least more entertaining than Fifth Gear, I still prefer the challenges and the "cocking about"

Series 10 Episode 1 I thought was pretty boring, the news was funny but finding the best road was boring, episode 2 is the reason I'm waiting in front of the TV at 8:00 every Sunday, the amphibious car challenge was hilarious

indianajohn · October 19th, 2007, 09:46 PM

Yep you guys are right (well not Valtiel images/smilies/smile.gif

) about the car stuff lacking that special something. They used to go on about loving cars with the x-factor. Well those old reviews had the television equivalent of an x-factor. The new stuff just doesn't.

Valtiel, I much preferred episode 1 to episode 2, although the test of the R8 was nice. But again, you have a feeling that if the R8 could've been tested in series 6, it would've been something truly special.

I know some of you may like this new format, I don't really get it myself, but at the end of the day it's the old, proper Top Gear fans who are being left behind and I don't think that's fair.

If they want to cock about, make another show and give it a different name. It'll slot in nicely on Discovery channel between Mythbusters and American Chopper. But Top Gear should be Top Gear.

It's not about being "more serious" like Valtiel says, it's about giving cars a heart and soul and analyzing their personality like they used to do so well. The old reviews used to stir the soul. I can find laughter in many places, but we'll never see anything like a good old Top Gear to bring cars to life for us.

I don't like to criticize, and don't like to use strong words to describe what is still a good show, but the amphibian car segment in this episode was unfortunately quite rubbish.

ycchan · October 20th, 2007, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by indianajohn

the amphibian car segment in this episode was unfortunately quite rubbish.

Much agreed.

October 17th, 2007, 10:37 PM	#181
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 12:40 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,892 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 74	Clarkson said: Jesus does not go to/like Fifth gear. __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

October 18th, 2007, 12:38 PM	#186
Scoop Joined: Oct 12th, 2007 Last Online: November 4th, 2008 Location: Constanta, Romania Age: 20 Posts: 39 Car: 2003 Daewoo Matiz LFS Status: Rep Power: 0	I think everyone should understand it's no longer just a review show of super cars that we're probably never gona own, or when we'll get the revenue to own one in 10-20 years there will be new ones, i enjoy very much the new format with these chalanges, who would have thought that a nissan pick-up with an outboard would cross the english channel. __________________ I met The Stig

October 18th, 2007, 05:12 PM	#189
Laba Joined: Sep 29th, 2007 Last Online: December 29th, 2008 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 56 Rep Power: 9	I like the supercar reviews more. Because everyone can go and drive a Ford Focus etc. But you have to be something special (rich £$€ ) to drive a Veyron, Zonda or an Enzo(especially on a track). And I'm not. And I doubt that almost anyone isn't either over here. But an occasional normal car review by an professional wouldn't hurt every now and then... __________________ Bugatti Veyron cylinder firing order: 1-14-9-4-7-12-15-6-13-8-3-16-11-2-5-10 Last edited by Laba; October 18th, 2007 at 05:13 PM.. Reason: I can't write, because I'm a moron.

October 18th, 2007, 05:59 PM	#191
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 12:40 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,892 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 74	Keira Knightley ftl Keira knightley + 10kg ftw __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

October 19th, 2007, 05:10 AM	#192
Bakis Joined: Nov 29th, 2006 Last Online: December 1st, 2008 Location: Melbourne Age: 20 Posts: 141 Car: Ford Falcon XR6 ED Rep Power: 9	So u would say no, if she offered? __________________ THE BIG BLUE MACHINE "ED" Nur Spec with fully ebay purchased Nurb'ring Sticker

October 18th, 2007, 12:20 AM	#183
Roberto Banned Joined: Apr 22nd, 2006 Last Online: February 3rd, 2008 Location: Abroad in Oz Posts: 144 Car: In between cars Rep Power: 0	Great episode.. Jules Holland was a little bit dissapointing. Great challenge. Im looking forward to the BL challenge coming up soon. Great use of Casino Royale soundtrack.. I reckon someone at TG likes 007 music, good choice

October 18th, 2007, 10:46 AM	#185
ycchan Joined: Jul 26th, 2005 Last Online: January 8th, 2009 Posts: 89 Rep Power: 0	Top Gear is funny as ever but I'm still disappointed. Once again, there was only one proper car review.

October 19th, 2007, 12:20 PM	#193
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 12:40 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,892 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 74	hell no! and during the course of the fuck fest, i'd introduce her to a wholesome food diet so the woman can get some curves. __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

October 19th, 2007, 12:56 PM	#194
indianajohn Joined: May 24th, 2006 Last Online: November 5th, 2007 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Austere, you are absolutely spot on. Before series 7, Top Gear was simply the best thing on TV. It's currently quite dismal, for the exact reasons you gave. Well done. I agree with everything, and what's with the supercar only reviews? Some of the BEST Top Gear segments ever were of stuff like the Nissan Cube and the pacific rim cars and the Honda Element. It still feels like I haven't seen any new Top Gear for years now. Last edited by indianajohn; October 19th, 2007 at 01:13 PM..

October 19th, 2007, 04:58 PM	#196
airmenair Joined: Aug 18th, 2005 Last Online: 02:47 AM Location: Arlington, Texas, USA Posts: 1,199 Rep Power: 27	Damn, I just wrote a really long response and my computer dumped it. I'm pissed Anyway, I'll try to sum it up: I think that the past two series (8,9) have had the Top Gear soul missing, and until now, I haven't been able to put my finger on it. I think that alot of the enjoyment came from the guys reviewing un-super cars, average cars, and horrid cars. Say, for example the Pacific Rimmers, or the Prius, or the James's secret Rover test drive or the 24 hours in the Smart Car. And it's not just the review of the cars itself, it's how the reviews are done. Creatively. The test of the Smart Car was inspired by the brochure that said that it felt like a "lounge." JC's test of the Prius, which he based of the new Hybrid Technology and how horrible it was. The Pacific Rimmers' which were tested as a group, and then narrowed down to the best of the worst. And etc. I like it when they put the car they are testing in its element or even out of it's element or using it the way the think it is supposed to be used. It makes for a funnier, and more entertaining test. As opposed to driving round the track, and commenting on its speed, handling, etc. These types of tests provided good transitions and sub-material to supplement other parts of the show. Instead of the format: Supercar-News-Challenge-SIARPC-Challenge, which is what I've kind of seen patterened over the past couple of series, they've had some other reviews. Testing supercars all the time takes away from the magic of the event from both the audience and the presenters. I imagine that the presenters are naturally going to lack some enthusiasm when they test in all honesty a fabulous and fast car, but only say a week ago, they drove an even faster car, so it's a bit of a psychological let down. Alot of the challenges they've done lately are quite lengthy in actual filming and prep time and when they try to squeeze it into an hour program it comes out kind of hashed and unsatisfying, which is how I felt after the latest amphibious car challenge. Seems like they're trying to fit a whole lot of stuff into a small time slot, and I think it wouldn't be a terrible thing if they dedicated nearly an entire episode for a challenge (which I enjoy) but not every show. The latest amphibious car challenge has actually an epic achievement, but the way it was presented didn't feel very epic. It felt like it was thrown in at the last minute. I alway remember the music in my favorite scenes from the show becuase it fit so well and added another dimension to the scene, but honestly I can't remember really anything from most of the past few series. A few things stick out like some of the music in the amphibious cars, part I. But on the whole, it has been anything but memorable. I don't like being a critic because I appreciate what these three guys do and provide for us, and I am infintely grateful for it, but I guess its hard not to be sometimes. That about sums it up, I could go into more detail, but I don't want to make it that long.

October 19th, 2007, 05:26 PM	#197
Ilpav Joined: Sep 3rd, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: GTA, Ontario, Canada Age: 19 Posts: 1,163 Car: 1996 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE 3.3L LFS Status: Rep Power: 16	Yes. I would like to see more cheaper cars than expensive cars (which I love). 10x03 will have more cars than challenges though. And the "old-style" car reviews will be back with the M5 Touring vs. E63 AMG Touring. __________________ "The Ferrari 355. The best car...in the world...ever."- Jeremy Clarkson Last edited by Ilpav; October 19th, 2007 at 05:30 PM..

October 19th, 2007, 06:13 PM	#198
Valtiel Joined: Jun 7th, 2006 Last Online: September 20th, 2008 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	There seems to be two types of people on here, the ones that like old Top Gear (more serious, focuses on car reviews) and the ones that like new Top Gear (more humourous, more challenges) Personally I prefer new Top Gear, I don't even bother watching Fifth Gear as it bores me to tears, and while the car reviews in Top Gear are at least more entertaining than Fifth Gear, I still prefer the challenges and the "cocking about" Series 10 Episode 1 I thought was pretty boring, the news was funny but finding the best road was boring, episode 2 is the reason I'm waiting in front of the TV at 8:00 every Sunday, the amphibious car challenge was hilarious

October 19th, 2007, 09:46 PM	#199
indianajohn Joined: May 24th, 2006 Last Online: November 5th, 2007 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Yep you guys are right (well not Valtiel) about the car stuff lacking that special something. They used to go on about loving cars with the x-factor. Well those old reviews had the television equivalent of an x-factor. The new stuff just doesn't. Valtiel, I much preferred episode 1 to episode 2, although the test of the R8 was nice. But again, you have a feeling that if the R8 could've been tested in series 6, it would've been something truly special. I know some of you may like this new format, I don't really get it myself, but at the end of the day it's the old, proper Top Gear fans who are being left behind and I don't think that's fair. If they want to cock about, make another show and give it a different name. It'll slot in nicely on Discovery channel between Mythbusters and American Chopper. But Top Gear should be Top Gear. It's not about being "more serious" like Valtiel says, it's about giving cars a heart and soul and analyzing their personality like they used to do so well. The old reviews used to stir the soul. I can find laughter in many places, but we'll never see anything like a good old Top Gear to bring cars to life for us. I don't like to criticize, and don't like to use strong words to describe what is still a good show, but the amphibian car segment in this episode was unfortunately quite rubbish. Last edited by indianajohn; October 19th, 2007 at 09:55 PM..

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