[10x09] December 9th, 2007 - Page 8

s_k · December 11th, 2007, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aston Martin

Me and my sis had this quick conversation...

Sis: I dunno how they dare race at night
Me: What do you suppose they do in a 24h endurance race then?
Sis: Stop when it gets dark.

Well James did that once...
In a plane...

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Originally Posted by jackson_oat

I really loved this one...I'd been looking forward to it since the reports from those who were lucky enough to go. 10/10 for me, personally.

Does anyone happen to have (or know where to get) screencaps of this episode at all? Thanks for any help. images/smilies/smile.gif

Why not Download & Make em yourself images/smilies/smile.gif

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Brian · December 11th, 2007, 12:49 AM

8/10. The endurance racing segments were pretty epic but using music from the video game Command and Conquer 3 really ripped out the soul of it for me. A good 1/3 of how much I enjoy Top Gear is down to their esoteric and usually gorgeous music selections.

Bakis · December 11th, 2007, 01:02 AM

Great Episode, who ended up winning the race?

dino_martini · December 11th, 2007, 01:23 AM

I gave it a 5/10.
The good: Fiat 500, Brit Car
The bad: Everything else IMO

I dont really care about Ascari, they are ugly cars IMO.

crashmaxx · December 11th, 2007, 02:42 AM

The Britcar race was EPIC! Loved the whole thing. I really hope I can do a race like that some day. Is there anything special in the suit or car for pissing in it? Or did they really just piss themselves and make a mess of it all? Although I guess you could hold it three hours, if its common not to, you'd expect them to at least wear some "diapers" or some sort of apparatus for that.

The Fiat 500 was good, but a bit dull and uninformative. The old 207 review was much better, this one didn't even seem to show how the car handled. And why would they even bother with the diesel one for a test like that? I'm not real impressed with the 500 anyway, I'd rather have the Panda, but we can't get that here.

The SIRPC was decent, but the guy seemed like a dick. I didn't take off points for it like others though. images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

The A10 was just sick. I think if I'm ever going to get a Noble, I'll have to consider this. Anyone else notice the Daihatsu was actually a Scion xB? Was hoping to hear a little bit more about it, though next to the A10, I don't care much. You guys really get that car with a shitty badge there, if Toyota had Scion there too I think it could really sell. But who would buy it when you call it a Daihatsu?

Martyn- Were you part of the race, or a spectator? Really be cool to hear any details you have to share, the pics were great!

awdrifter · December 11th, 2007, 03:11 AM

That was a cool ep. A new lap record by the Ascari, the Fiat 500, and the race! The race started out pretty slow though, but when they get to racing it was cool. It's nice to see them doing a challenge so seriously. As it is, it's better than when Tiff did the 24hr race for Fifth Gear, just because it's a more complete coverage of the race. But racing wise it's no question, Tiff is miles ahead, and they finished higher IIRC. But still, very good ep.

_HighVoltage_ · December 11th, 2007, 03:35 AM

I just watched the episode again and a segment during the night made me wonder - was the Stig really driving with his helmet visor through the night??? How could he see anything if he really was?

Necx0 · December 11th, 2007, 03:37 AM

I think it was a good episode, but nothing amazing. Great viewing of course but nothing made me go "oh my god!!".

Britcar segment was great, never really got boring, I would have liked to have seen more of the car building process. Racing mechanics are some of the most superhuman people on earth, so much respect for them. Working all hours of the night and day with little thanks.

The Ascari is a pretty awesome machine, but for Carrera GT money I think I would still take the Porsche. Given the lap time its a performance bargain really. Although the Caparo is significantly cheaper. Pretty cool review though.

Fiat 500 was a big disappointment. A car like that needs a proper review, something Top Gear are still very reluctant to do. These races can still be great car reviews, remember the Ford StreetKa against the pigeons. This one wasn't though.

SIARPC, had no idea who Keith Allen was, but he was pretty funny. Would have liked to have seen a longer interview with him, felt very rushed. Obviously he is Lily Allen's dad, if they have her on I will be having sex with my television.

speedometer · December 11th, 2007, 03:45 AM

very good episode, britcar 24h was the best part,they had lot of technical problems.
Endurance racing can be addictive,i drove 2 hours in one race (and i was rubbish) and one of my friends had (very)low-budget endurance-racing team couple of years ago, but it ended when they didnt had any money any more (suprise..)

Austere · December 11th, 2007, 05:40 AM

I really liked the Brit Car segment. I really got into it because it was easy to tell that they themselves were really getting into it. It was funny how they started it the same way they start all the segments; By hamming it up for the cameras and making a lot of stupid sight gags and generally not taking it very seriously. Then when they got to the track and saw the rest of the field they realised they would have to start taking it seriously! For me, that was the point where that segment really picked up and from then on in was really good. It's a shame Hammond ruined everything by stuffing the car into that Mosler. images/smilies/tongue.gif

The rest was really bad. James review of the 500 was just rubbish. It was easily one the worst reviews Top Gear have ever done.

The Ascari review was just as bad, actually. Clarkson is such a pathetic old hack now.

I was kinda glad there was no news segment this week because I think the news is pretty unfunny most of the time and just drags on and on.

I skipped the SIARPC segment.

If it weren't for the Brit Car segment I would have given this episode a 1... and that only would have been because I can't give it a 0.

So the Brit Car segment alone lifted the rest of the episode up to a 6! Hooray for the Brit Car segment!

iloper · December 11th, 2007, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollbooth

7/10

BritCar should probably have been a TG special. I think having to cut down the footage to fit it into the episode hurt a bit.

well said.
but it was a great episode. the Ascari is a gt racer, not a car..

9/10

thanks for the times list
Jeremy went really well in the last stint... several 2:17...
hammond and May had similar paces!! 2:24-2:30...

bos78 · December 11th, 2007, 06:42 AM

I liked the ascari test and the 24hr race alot, but the rest of the show was only so-so. Still I gave it a 9 because the excellence of the endurance race segments made up for the rest of the show. I didn't even watch the SIARPC part though.

The Daihatsu is basically the same car as an XB. It looked small next to the Ascari, so I thought it was too small to be based on the XB, but I was wrong. I guess the Ascari is just big.

narin · December 11th, 2007, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by crashmaxx

Anyone else notice the Daihatsu was actually a Scion xB?

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

It is based on the platform of the second generation of the Daihatsu Sirion and is largely identical to the second gerneration of the Toyota bB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daihatsu_Materia

i think so images/smilies/wink.gif

it's close enough images/smilies/tongue.gif

torqueless · December 11th, 2007, 07:27 AM

i cant stop listening to the review.

i loev transmission whine

TomCat · December 11th, 2007, 07:39 AM

Seemed like a very short episode.

Except the Ascari, that segment seemed to drag on. Cool car, funny intro, but it was the same old thing. Didn't help that it was the same car from Clarkson's DVD, only this time the test was shorter, more boring, and more dull.

I was disappointed by the Fiat 500 review. It seemed too rehashed. Only this time it was worse then the first few times they did it. I would have preferred seeing it drive around the countryside and back in the villages and cities, FifthGear style, then the same old TG race, with staged stunts, timed shots, and a narrow defeat. It's gotten old.

The BritCar race was awesome though. But too short. If you censored every reference to the race being 24 hours long, you could probably convince most people that the race was really just your standard 1-2 hour affair. It seemed way to cut down. They probably could have done a two part mega special on it, but opted for... what, 15-20 minute segment? Too short.

8/10

lukenwolf · December 11th, 2007, 08:57 AM

Finally came round to watch it yesterday. It's a truly brilliant Episode. But only because of the Britcar Segment, which not only rescued it from being a rubbish ep, but even made it a great one.

Pros : 1. Britcar
2. Stig

This should really have gone - as was said a couple times - into a special. It was way too much cut out for time reasons.
The Stig has been given more footage than just his laps lately (The london race, this time) and some comical moments (Hamilton photo in the newspaper, Stiggy falling asleep in the drivers briefing). And this seems to be the way to go. Gimme more Stig images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

Cons : 1. SIARPC
2. Missing News

Ok, me being German, I don't happen to know most of them, but apart from very rare occurences this seems to be the most skipped over part of the show. Maybe I'm slaughtering a holy cow, but I would drop it from the show altogether. The really interesting people have been in the car already. It's just run out of truly interesting stars really and I don't see the point in going on with it images/smilies/mellow.gif

The missing News was a bad idea. Once the Ferrari was crashed they should've dropped the whole segment for more britcar or the news instead of hurriedly cobbling together the Ascari Review.

my 2 cents images/smilies/smile.gif

matt2000 · December 11th, 2007, 10:00 AM

really liked this episode, the race was great, and i can't believe they got away with those sponsors images/smilies/lol.gif

it was a shame that Richard had that accident and they had fuel problems, but it wouldn't be a TG race unless something went wring would it images/smilies/wink.gif

i liked the C&C3 music, i only noticed when i watched it through a second time.

very good show IMO images/smilies/smile.gif

Necx0 · December 11th, 2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lukenwolf

The missing News was a bad idea. Once the Ferrari was crashed they should've dropped the whole segment for more britcar or the news instead of hurriedly cobbling together the Ascari Review.

People seem to think that because Jezza mentioned the Ferrari being filmed it was going to be in this series. WRONG!!!! You think they film everything in the week before going to air??? The F430 Scuderia would have been being filmed for NEXT season.

Martyn · December 11th, 2007, 10:46 AM

^It was on all the listings that this episode was going to feature the F430 Scuderia.

Anyway, I've just watched the rip and I've found myself one TV! Hurray!

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Viper007Bond · December 11th, 2007, 10:53 AM

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December 11th, 2007, 12:49 AM	#142
Brian Joined: Nov 14th, 2005 Last Online: December 28th, 2008 Location: Brescia, Italy Posts: 40 Car: 2 cars: 6 cylinders up front, LSDs out back Rep Power: 0	8/10. The endurance racing segments were pretty epic but using music from the video game Command and Conquer 3 really ripped out the soul of it for me. A good 1/3 of how much I enjoy Top Gear is down to their esoteric and usually gorgeous music selections. __________________ Pace Fuori... (JAP) G35 6MT / (GER) E46 M3 / (ITA) 748

December 11th, 2007, 01:02 AM	#143
Bakis Joined: Nov 29th, 2006 Last Online: December 1st, 2008 Location: Melbourne Age: 20 Posts: 141 Car: Ford Falcon XR6 ED Rep Power: 9	Great Episode, who ended up winning the race? __________________ THE BIG BLUE MACHINE "ED" Nur Spec with fully ebay purchased Nurb'ring Sticker

December 11th, 2007, 01:23 AM	#144
dino_martini Joined: May 15th, 2005 Last Online: 12:07 AM Location: Calgary Alberta Canada Posts: 280 Car: 2007 Saab 9-3 Aero Rep Power: 15	I gave it a 5/10. The good: Fiat 500, Brit Car The bad: Everything else IMO I dont really care about Ascari, they are ugly cars IMO. __________________ Im even heating the passenger seat for no good reason other than to burn fuel - Clarkson

December 11th, 2007, 02:42 AM	#145
crashmaxx Joined: Jul 28th, 2007 Last Online: January 8th, 2009 Location: York, PA, USA Age: 21 Posts: 156 Car: 2002 Subaru Impreza RS Rep Power: 7	The Britcar race was EPIC! Loved the whole thing. I really hope I can do a race like that some day. Is there anything special in the suit or car for pissing in it? Or did they really just piss themselves and make a mess of it all? Although I guess you could hold it three hours, if its common not to, you'd expect them to at least wear some "diapers" or some sort of apparatus for that. The Fiat 500 was good, but a bit dull and uninformative. The old 207 review was much better, this one didn't even seem to show how the car handled. And why would they even bother with the diesel one for a test like that? I'm not real impressed with the 500 anyway, I'd rather have the Panda, but we can't get that here. The SIRPC was decent, but the guy seemed like a dick. I didn't take off points for it like others though. The A10 was just sick. I think if I'm ever going to get a Noble, I'll have to consider this. Anyone else notice the Daihatsu was actually a Scion xB? Was hoping to hear a little bit more about it, though next to the A10, I don't care much. You guys really get that car with a shitty badge there, if Toyota had Scion there too I think it could really sell. But who would buy it when you call it a Daihatsu? Martyn- Were you part of the race, or a spectator? Really be cool to hear any details you have to share, the pics were great! __________________

December 11th, 2007, 03:11 AM	#146
awdrifter Joined: Aug 29th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Posts: 1,552 Rep Power: 26	That was a cool ep. A new lap record by the Ascari, the Fiat 500, and the race! The race started out pretty slow though, but when they get to racing it was cool. It's nice to see them doing a challenge so seriously. As it is, it's better than when Tiff did the 24hr race for Fifth Gear, just because it's a more complete coverage of the race. But racing wise it's no question, Tiff is miles ahead, and they finished higher IIRC. But still, very good ep. __________________ TP

December 11th, 2007, 03:35 AM	#147
_HighVoltage_ Joined: Aug 5th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Bulgaria / Athens, WV Age: 21 Posts: 1,182 Car: 1998 VW Polo 1.0 Rep Power: 19	I just watched the episode again and a segment during the night made me wonder - was the Stig really driving with his helmet visor through the night??? How could he see anything if he really was?

December 11th, 2007, 03:37 AM	#148
Necx0 Joined: Jun 21st, 2007 Last Online: 12:46 AM Location: Hobart, Tasmania Age: 22 Posts: 1,876 Car: R31 Skyline, Charade rally car Rep Power: 17	I think it was a good episode, but nothing amazing. Great viewing of course but nothing made me go "oh my god!!". Britcar segment was great, never really got boring, I would have liked to have seen more of the car building process. Racing mechanics are some of the most superhuman people on earth, so much respect for them. Working all hours of the night and day with little thanks. The Ascari is a pretty awesome machine, but for Carrera GT money I think I would still take the Porsche. Given the lap time its a performance bargain really. Although the Caparo is significantly cheaper. Pretty cool review though. Fiat 500 was a big disappointment. A car like that needs a proper review, something Top Gear are still very reluctant to do. These races can still be great car reviews, remember the Ford StreetKa against the pigeons. This one wasn't though. SIARPC, had no idea who Keith Allen was, but he was pretty funny. Would have liked to have seen a longer interview with him, felt very rushed. Obviously he is Lily Allen's dad, if they have her on I will be having sex with my television.

December 11th, 2007, 03:45 AM	#149
speedometer Joined: Apr 6th, 2006 Last Online: January 5th, 2009 Location: Finland Posts: 92 Car: OPEL Ascona C 2.0 Rep Power: 0	very good episode, britcar 24h was the best part,they had lot of technical problems. Endurance racing can be addictive,i drove 2 hours in one race (and i was rubbish) and one of my friends had (very)low-budget endurance-racing team couple of years ago, but it ended when they didnt had any money any more (suprise..) __________________ "well, you`ve met Jeremy Clarkson, big tall fellow, curly hair, idiot." -Richard Hammond "Oliveeerrrr!!! -Richard Hammond Member of Opel Club Finland

December 11th, 2007, 05:40 AM	#150
Austere Joined: Nov 26th, 2006 Last Online: March 13th, 2008 Location: Australia Age: 25 Posts: 1,400 Car: '71 Mercedes-Benz 280S Rep Power: 21	I really liked the Brit Car segment. I really got into it because it was easy to tell that they themselves were really getting into it. It was funny how they started it the same way they start all the segments; By hamming it up for the cameras and making a lot of stupid sight gags and generally not taking it very seriously. Then when they got to the track and saw the rest of the field they realised they would have to start taking it seriously! For me, that was the point where that segment really picked up and from then on in was really good. It's a shame Hammond ruined everything by stuffing the car into that Mosler. The rest was really bad. James review of the 500 was just rubbish. It was easily one the worst reviews Top Gear have ever done. The Ascari review was just as bad, actually. Clarkson is such a pathetic old hack now. I was kinda glad there was no news segment this week because I think the news is pretty unfunny most of the time and just drags on and on. I skipped the SIARPC segment. If it weren't for the Brit Car segment I would have given this episode a 1... and that only would have been because I can't give it a 0. So the Brit Car segment alone lifted the rest of the episode up to a 6! Hooray for the Brit Car segment!

December 11th, 2007, 06:42 AM	#152
bos78 Joined: Nov 15th, 2007 Last Online: November 3rd, 2008 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	I liked the ascari test and the 24hr race alot, but the rest of the show was only so-so. Still I gave it a 9 because the excellence of the endurance race segments made up for the rest of the show. I didn't even watch the SIARPC part though. The Daihatsu is basically the same car as an XB. It looked small next to the Ascari, so I thought it was too small to be based on the XB, but I was wrong. I guess the Ascari is just big. Last edited by bos78; December 20th, 2007 at 07:03 AM..

December 11th, 2007, 07:27 AM	#154
torqueless Joined: Feb 5th, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Location: road atlanta Posts: 320 Car: rsx type s Rep Power: 9	i cant stop listening to the review. i loev transmission whine __________________ wtb: battletoads for wii, pm me

December 11th, 2007, 07:39 AM	#155
TomCat Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 12:38 AM Location: Chandler, Arizona Age: 24 Posts: 3,429 Car: 2004 Chrysler PT Turbo; 1985 Toyota 4Runner Rep Power: 42	Seemed like a very short episode. Except the Ascari, that segment seemed to drag on. Cool car, funny intro, but it was the same old thing. Didn't help that it was the same car from Clarkson's DVD, only this time the test was shorter, more boring, and more dull. I was disappointed by the Fiat 500 review. It seemed too rehashed. Only this time it was worse then the first few times they did it. I would have preferred seeing it drive around the countryside and back in the villages and cities, FifthGear style, then the same old TG race, with staged stunts, timed shots, and a narrow defeat. It's gotten old. The BritCar race was awesome though. But too short. If you censored every reference to the race being 24 hours long, you could probably convince most people that the race was really just your standard 1-2 hour affair. It seemed way to cut down. They probably could have done a two part mega special on it, but opted for... what, 15-20 minute segment? Too short. 8/10 __________________ When in doubt, throttle out.

December 11th, 2007, 08:57 AM	#156
lukenwolf Joined: Nov 11th, 2007 Last Online: March 4th, 2008 Location: Genthin, Germany Posts: 20 Car: Toyota Paseo, dedicated ring toy Rep Power: 0	Finally came round to watch it yesterday. It's a truly brilliant Episode. But only because of the Britcar Segment, which not only rescued it from being a rubbish ep, but even made it a great one. Pros : 1. Britcar 2. Stig This should really have gone - as was said a couple times - into a special. It was way too much cut out for time reasons. The Stig has been given more footage than just his laps lately (The london race, this time) and some comical moments (Hamilton photo in the newspaper, Stiggy falling asleep in the drivers briefing). And this seems to be the way to go. Gimme more Stig Cons : 1. SIARPC 2. Missing News Ok, me being German, I don't happen to know most of them, but apart from very rare occurences this seems to be the most skipped over part of the show. Maybe I'm slaughtering a holy cow, but I would drop it from the show altogether. The really interesting people have been in the car already. It's just run out of truly interesting stars really and I don't see the point in going on with it The missing News was a bad idea. Once the Ferrari was crashed they should've dropped the whole segment for more britcar or the news instead of hurriedly cobbling together the Ascari Review. my 2 cents

December 11th, 2007, 10:00 AM	#157
matt2000 Hedgehog Sandwich Joined: Feb 17th, 2006 Last Online: 02:15 AM Location: Market Harborough, UK Age: 18 Posts: 3,702 Car: '77 Land Rover Series III LFS Status: Rep Power: 56	really liked this episode, the race was great, and i can't believe they got away with those sponsors it was a shame that Richard had that accident and they had fuel problems, but it wouldn't be a TG race unless something went wring would it i liked the C&C3 music, i only noticed when i watched it through a second time. very good show IMO __________________ 'I've spoken to the scientist in that article. He is convinced that the parrot is "just resting".' - Plissken "My daughter has... errr HAD one, and I was given one" - Scott

December 11th, 2007, 10:53 AM	#160
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 12:39 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,088 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 237	Grats! __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

December 11th, 2007, 10:46 AM	#159
Martyn Joined: Feb 5th, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Stafford, England Age: 24 Posts: 454 Car: Ford Focus Rep Power: 17	^It was on all the listings that this episode was going to feature the F430 Scuderia. Anyway, I've just watched the rip and I've found myself one TV! Hurray!