[11x01] June 22nd, 2008 - Page 10

Dann · June 23rd, 2008, 10:57 AM

it was ok, but what happend to the propper challenges? Back in the old day's the challenge were quite serious, they realy did something with the points and it didn't veel that scripted (sure it was, but not as much as yesterday). I mean, why spend 5 min faking some points, if you can also make the segment 5 min longer. Or just spend some propper time on it and give propper points...

Th4R4t · June 23rd, 2008, 11:13 AM

does someone know if, in the near future, topgear will be presented in HD?

Ali_NZ · June 23rd, 2008, 11:13 AM

Yeah, I reckon if they actually took the police segment seriously and got proper cars, it would have been more enjoyable.

dj.TAKA · June 23rd, 2008, 11:19 AM

It was an alright episode, didn't find the stuff at the start too interesting...

I laughed all the way throught the Cop car bit tho.

kekekeke · June 23rd, 2008, 11:24 AM

Anyone know what picture JC showed during the news?

SL65 · June 23rd, 2008, 11:25 AM

I really liked this episodes mix of segments. I enjoyed the shorter segments to get the episode kicked off. I hope they do that more often as it helps the episode move more quickly rather than having to endure a long and predictable power review of a supercar (F430) that feels like you've already seen it before.

I found the latest 'How Hard Can It Be' challenge quite funny. Much better than the likes of the amphibious cars second attempt and the Reliant Rocket challanges.

Bonus points to James for having the most awesomeness of police sirens images/smilies/biggrin.gif

upyourego · June 23rd, 2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Th4R4t

does someone know if, in the near future, topgear will be presented in HD?

The BBC HD team are working with the Top Gear team to convert them to HD, it's been hinted that next series could be HD but It hink it's more likely to be 2009

Viper007Bond · June 23rd, 2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Th4R4t

does someone know if, in the near future, topgear will be presented in HD?

http://www.finalgear.com/news/2008/0...r-to-be-in-hd/
http://www.finalgear.com/news/2008/0...ack-june-15th/

MXM · June 23rd, 2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frederic

I just can't accept that anyone who watches this episodes (and is obviously being entertained) can give less than a 7. I mean, come on? What do you want more?

I'm judging it by comparing to other TG episodes, not the general crap that comes from tv. And by TG standards, this episode was poor, that's what you call opinion, and it's by definition subjective.

wooflepoof · June 23rd, 2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dann

it was ok, but what happend to the propper challenges? Back in the old day's the challenge were quite serious, they realy did something with the points and it didn't veel that scripted (sure it was, but not as much as yesterday). I mean, why spend 5 min faking some points, if you can also make the segment 5 min longer. Or just spend some propper time on it and give propper points...

Once again, old TG is probably not coming back. If you want old TG and relevant reviews watch 5th gear. Top Gear is all about entertainment with cars; its now more than ever a show you can watch with your non car-nut friends which I think isn't such a bad thing. I gave it a solid 8 btw

dj.TAKA · June 23rd, 2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SL65

Bonus points to James for having the most awesomeness of police sirens images/smilies/biggrin.gif

+ Clarksons Moo Siren = images/smilies/lol.gif

mitza4rally · June 23rd, 2008, 12:37 PM

Here`s Jeremy testing the Scuderia

+ YouTube Video

My small complain about the show is that they don`t test many cars, don`t take me wrong I like the other stuff but this is Top Gear, car show. Anybody with some info when they test the Evo 10, can`t wait 4 that.

Prez · June 23rd, 2008, 12:40 PM

It was was just OK, everything was average. 7/10
But I'm happy that TG is back.

The Police car part was quite disappointing.
The point was to show us that Astras are slow and boring.
And then Richard comes with 1.6 Suzuki Vitara and James comes with Lexus what weighs 2tonns. They are not fast!!

upyourego · June 23rd, 2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mitza4rally

My small complain about the show is that they don`t test many cars, don`t take me wrong I like the other stuff but this is Top Gear, car show. Anybody with some info when they test the Evo 10, can`t wait 4 that.

God now that's opening a massive can of worms images/smilies/smile.gif

Top Gear isn't a Car Show in the traditional sense - it's long since evolved (read the archive of Clarkson and May columns) into an entertainment show that has cars as a theme.

mitza4rally · June 23rd, 2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by upyourego

God now that's opening a massive can of worms images/smilies/smile.gif

Top Gear isn't a Car Show in the traditional sense - it's long since evolved (read the archive of Clarkson and May columns) into an entertainment show that has cars as a theme.

I know that bit but it would be nice if they feature more cars images/smilies/smile.gif

theaxe · June 23rd, 2008, 12:49 PM

This show was a classic example of why SIARPC should be ditched. When you get a good guest it's worth watching but they should just skip that segment if there's no one decent available.

I guess what I'm saying is that they should only have guest who a) don't have anything to plug AND b) have something interesting to say about cars. Otherwise I'd rather have more TG stuff...

GraemeH · June 23rd, 2008, 12:54 PM

I enjoyed the quick-fire sections before the news. Rather than dragging out one big segment to make the point, they covered it with three seperate parts; the supercar race, the m3/prius challenge and the conclusions and advice in the news. Splitting what was one 'point' across those three seperate mini-parts made it feel like there was a lot more there, which i guess is what Mr.Willman was referring to when he said he was switching to more short and sweet segments. That bit worked well.

The news was fine, i thought the picture was ******, since the shape vaugley looks like a person bending over, but the background colour doesn't match (not that i'm an expert on the composition of ****** or anything...)

The stunt... yeah bit of a damp squib. I would have preferred it if the stunt guy had been a real comic style character like the stig, with his own type of overalls and helmet. Some kind of gimmick, other than a padded racing suit. I actually thought the writers would cut back on the number of stunts, since if you've seen half a dozen, you've really seen them all. We'll see how the stunt segments evolve.

You're all complaining that the Ferrari review was the same formula, but really be fair, how many different ways are there to say "i was suspicious of the car at first, but it's awesome"? Not many. He can't just go babbling in a non-sequitur fashion just so you don't feel like there are any similarities. The engine noise was better than usual (i ranted somewhere else about how they should improve it), but it wasn't edited right. Jeremy would mention how good it sounds, then you'd get the clean sound of the car reving, but then instead of letting you hear a gear change and more revving, they'd edit Jeremy's voice back in. There was no more than about 3 seconds of engine noise uninterrupted. Not really enough to get a good feel for it. That's a small thing, but it's a car show for car enthusiasts, so they should keep in mind what gets car enthusiasts excited.

The stars are catching a lot of flak, but be fair, the interview was a lot shorter than they usually are. Maybe they realized how annoying that queen's voice is so they decided to keep it short. Be realistic; there are always going to be some crap stars. They have to book guests for every show, there are going to be ones that hit and ones that miss. Whether the guest is exciting is the thing they have the least control over when making the show.

The police car segment was just pretty good up until Jeremy started using his wheel spikes, then it was fucking hilarious. Nice camera angles for that bit.

I always find it hard to attach a rating to top gear episodes because i'm not sure how much i'm judging it relative to itself or relative to other shows. I'd rather watch all episodes in a series, then put them in order. Looking forward to the GT-R.

*Edit* Haha, g0atse is censored on the forum.

theaxe · June 23rd, 2008, 01:01 PM

I'm pretty sure the blurred image is that one of the bloke who really likes his Range Rover (as one of the other posters suggested). Clarkson mentioned the image in his column.

wikkedsnaab · June 23rd, 2008, 01:13 PM

look, it wasn't the best episode ever, but it was 10,000,000 times better than anything else that is on TV or has been in the past few months. god it is good to have Top Gear back.

the only thing i didn't enjoy was as expected SIARPC, and only the queer's voice... nothing against homosexuals, but it was just annoying as fuck and knowing there were no comedy nuggets in that segment I cued forward.

the rest was pretty good though, esp. the police car challenge.. image of Stig merrily flicking on the wipers after May had painted the front of the Bimmer pink had me in stitches.

Vltros · June 23rd, 2008, 01:13 PM

Quite a good episeode overall. Although I was expecting a bit more for being the first one. But hey! Top gear is back and this is just the first episode!

Did Codemasters film the Ferrari F430 Scuderia review??? Because I really think that bloom toned it down a little bit. It was like watching a Toca Race Driver GRiD replay!

The police cars segement was quite funny (specially James' car police siren images/smilies/lol.gif

).

And the Top gear stuntman... images/smilies/dry.gif

I dunno but it felt like it didn't fit at all with the program. If that means we will be seeing more stunts int he coming episodes, we will be loosing time for watching car reviews and other stuff images/smilies/sad.gif

Anyways, i gave this episode a 7. Good for Top gear standards but I felt it needed a little bit more of that Top Gear Magic. I just can't wait to see the Japan special episode!! images/smilies/happy.gif

EDIT: By the way, did anyone notice the continuity error during the police cars part? When doing his lap, Hammond lost the thing in the front, but during the last part of the track, and in some of the shots he had it back on. images/smilies/lol.gif

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June 23rd, 2008, 11:19 AM	#184
dj.TAKA Joined: Dec 15th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Posts: 138 Car: 93' Series II SSS Pulsar & 84' AE86 Trueno LFS Status: Rep Power: 9	It was an alright episode, didn't find the stuff at the start too interesting... I laughed all the way throught the Cop car bit tho. __________________ DJ.Designz Inc.

June 23rd, 2008, 12:49 PM	#196
theaxe Joined: Jun 23rd, 2008 Last Online: December 21st, 2008 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	This show was a classic example of why SIARPC should be ditched. When you get a good guest it's worth watching but they should just skip that segment if there's no one decent available. I guess what I'm saying is that they should only have guest who a) don't have anything to plug AND b) have something interesting to say about cars. Otherwise I'd rather have more TG stuff... Last edited by theaxe; June 23rd, 2008 at 12:54 PM..

June 23rd, 2008, 12:54 PM	#197
GraemeH Joined: Apr 19th, 2005 Last Online: 02:14 AM Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 1,898 Car: Toyota Corolla. Rawrr. LFS Status: Rep Power: 22	I enjoyed the quick-fire sections before the news. Rather than dragging out one big segment to make the point, they covered it with three seperate parts; the supercar race, the m3/prius challenge and the conclusions and advice in the news. Splitting what was one 'point' across those three seperate mini-parts made it feel like there was a lot more there, which i guess is what Mr.Willman was referring to when he said he was switching to more short and sweet segments. That bit worked well. The news was fine, i thought the picture was ****, since the shape vaugley looks like a person bending over, but the background colour doesn't match (not that i'm an expert on the composition of **** or anything...) The stunt... yeah bit of a damp squib. I would have preferred it if the stunt guy had been a real comic style character like the stig, with his own type of overalls and helmet. Some kind of gimmick, other than a padded racing suit. I actually thought the writers would cut back on the number of stunts, since if you've seen half a dozen, you've really seen them all. We'll see how the stunt segments evolve. You're all complaining that the Ferrari review was the same formula, but really be fair, how many different ways are there to say "i was suspicious of the car at first, but it's awesome"? Not many. He can't just go babbling in a non-sequitur fashion just so you don't feel like there are any similarities. The engine noise was better than usual (i ranted somewhere else about how they should improve it), but it wasn't edited right. Jeremy would mention how good it sounds, then you'd get the clean sound of the car reving, but then instead of letting you hear a gear change and more revving, they'd edit Jeremy's voice back in. There was no more than about 3 seconds of engine noise uninterrupted. Not really enough to get a good feel for it. That's a small thing, but it's a car show for car enthusiasts, so they should keep in mind what gets car enthusiasts excited. The stars are catching a lot of flak, but be fair, the interview was a lot shorter than they usually are. Maybe they realized how annoying that queen's voice is so they decided to keep it short. Be realistic; there are always going to be some crap stars. They have to book guests for every show, there are going to be ones that hit and ones that miss. Whether the guest is exciting is the thing they have the least control over when making the show. The police car segment was just pretty good up until Jeremy started using his wheel spikes, then it was fucking hilarious. Nice camera angles for that bit. I always find it hard to attach a rating to top gear episodes because i'm not sure how much i'm judging it relative to itself or relative to other shows. I'd rather watch all episodes in a series, then put them in order. Looking forward to the GT-R. Edit Haha, g0atse is censored on the forum. __________________

June 23rd, 2008, 01:13 PM	#199
wikkedsnaab Joined: Oct 10th, 2006 Last Online: January 8th, 2009 Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia. Posts: 67 Car: Mercedes Benz 190D 2.5, BMW 316i C Rep Power: 10	look, it wasn't the best episode ever, but it was 10,000,000 times better than anything else that is on TV or has been in the past few months. god it is good to have Top Gear back. the only thing i didn't enjoy was as expected SIARPC, and only the queer's voice... nothing against homosexuals, but it was just annoying as fuck and knowing there were no comedy nuggets in that segment I cued forward. the rest was pretty good though, esp. the police car challenge.. image of Stig merrily flicking on the wipers after May had painted the front of the Bimmer pink had me in stitches. __________________ *"You utter* pirate!"**

June 23rd, 2008, 10:57 AM	#181
Dann Joined: Aug 31st, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Age: 19 Posts: 138 Car: VW Golf Rep Power: 10	it was ok, but what happend to the propper challenges? Back in the old day's the challenge were quite serious, they realy did something with the points and it didn't veel that scripted (sure it was, but not as much as yesterday). I mean, why spend 5 min faking some points, if you can also make the segment 5 min longer. Or just spend some propper time on it and give propper points...

June 23rd, 2008, 11:13 AM	#182
Th4R4t Joined: Mar 6th, 2007 Last Online: January 5th, 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 39 Car: 2003 Audi A3 2.0FSI Rep Power: 0	does someone know if, in the near future, topgear will be presented in HD?

June 23rd, 2008, 11:13 AM	#183
Ali_NZ Not A Dude Joined: Oct 29th, 2006 Last Online: December 15th, 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, I reckon if they actually took the police segment seriously and got proper cars, it would have been more enjoyable.

June 23rd, 2008, 11:24 AM	#185
kekekeke Joined: Aug 2nd, 2005 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Posts: 872 Rep Power: 14	Anyone know what picture JC showed during the news?

June 23rd, 2008, 11:25 AM	#186
SL65 Ambitious but rubbish! Joined: Jul 12th, 2004 Last Online: 02:49 AM Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 18 Posts: 9,196 Car: 1998 Subaru Legacy 2.5L Rep Power: 41	I really liked this episodes mix of segments. I enjoyed the shorter segments to get the episode kicked off. I hope they do that more often as it helps the episode move more quickly rather than having to endure a long and predictable power review of a supercar (F430) that feels like you've already seen it before. I found the latest 'How Hard Can It Be' challenge quite funny. Much better than the likes of the amphibious cars second attempt and the Reliant Rocket challanges. Bonus points to James for having the most awesomeness of police sirens

June 23rd, 2008, 12:40 PM	#193
Prez Joined: Oct 9th, 2007 Last Online: September 16th, 2008 Location: Estonia Posts: 11 Car: GTI rip Rep Power: 0	It was was just OK, everything was average. 7/10 But I'm happy that TG is back. The Police car part was quite disappointing. The point was to show us that Astras are slow and boring. And then Richard comes with 1.6 Suzuki Vitara and James comes with Lexus what weighs 2tonns. They are not fast!!

June 23rd, 2008, 01:01 PM	#198
theaxe Joined: Jun 23rd, 2008 Last Online: December 21st, 2008 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	I'm pretty sure the blurred image is that one of the bloke who really likes his Range Rover (as one of the other posters suggested). Clarkson mentioned the image in his column.

June 23rd, 2008, 01:13 PM	#200
Vltros Joined: Sep 7th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Manresa (Barcelona) Age: 23 Posts: 896 Car: 2008 Ford Focus 1.6 Ti-VCT Rep Power: 14	Quite a good episeode overall. Although I was expecting a bit more for being the first one. But hey! Top gear is back and this is just the first episode! Did Codemasters film the Ferrari F430 Scuderia review??? Because I really think that bloom toned it down a little bit. It was like watching a Toca Race Driver GRiD replay! The police cars segement was quite funny (specially James' car police siren ). And the Top gear stuntman... I dunno but it felt like it didn't fit at all with the program. If that means we will be seeing more stunts int he coming episodes, we will be loosing time for watching car reviews and other stuff Anyways, i gave this episode a 7. Good for Top gear standards but I felt it needed a little bit more of that Top Gear Magic. I just can't wait to see the Japan special episode!! EDIT: By the way, did anyone notice the continuity error during the police cars part? When doing his lap, Hammond lost the thing in the front, but during the last part of the track, and in some of the shots he had it back on. __________________ '86 Ford Escort 1.4 Xtra '08 Ford Focus 1.6 Ti-VCT Last edited by Vltros; June 23rd, 2008 at 01:32 PM..