[11x01] June 22nd, 2008 - Page 19

bartboy9891 · June 29th, 2008, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Momo63

It means stable as in racing stable or racing team.

This is true. The S F on the emblem that can be found on the fender of several modern Ferrari's stands for Scuderia Ferrari.

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/6100/903031776xe3.jpg

Bostonredsock5 · June 29th, 2008, 10:18 PM

I have been watching Top Gear since the first season. The one thing in this episode that got me mad is the M3 vs Prius. A Prius is meant to save gas with a combo of highway and stop and go. Since most people have a stop and go type drive why not do that vs the M3 and see who gets the better results. It seems like they will do anything to make cars they like appear better than anything even if it means looking absurd

IceBone · June 29th, 2008, 10:48 PM

Oh yeah, one thing. In the preview, there's a blue Evo X. I checked the plates, it's the same one as the one i saw and sat in at the ring. The guy said he would have gladly given me a ride on the ring, but his insurance company insisted that it be a show car only, cause 3 cars crashed already that day and it was PACKED.

So...

Who wants to touch me? images/smilies/mellow.gif

skylock · June 29th, 2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bostonredsock5

I have been watching Top Gear since the first season. The one thing in this episode that got me mad is the M3 vs Prius. A Prius is meant to save gas with a combo of highway and stop and go. Since most people have a stop and go type drive why not do that vs the M3 and see who gets the better results. It seems like they will do anything to make cars they like appear better than anything even if it means looking absurd

I think you have a misunderstanding of a lot of things here.

1. How the prius is marketed. (They almost sucked me in)
2. The Prius pro people want everyone in a prius type vehicle
3. Apparently you have not seen the rural parts of the country. Most people do not do stop and go driving where I live.

Not to mention those batteries. Do you know everyone that lived near those mines in Canada had to be moved. It is now a dead zone, meaning nothing grows/lives around it. (very eco friendly)

So it boils down to, if I had bought one of those cars, I would be highly pissed at this point. That test they did on TG would be a more a real life test in my case than the crap they ram down your throat at Toyota or the eco web sites.

I am not against a fuel efficient car which is why after I really thought about it I bought a Honda Civic. (I average 43 miles to the gallon) I know the car is not really cool, and it is a grandma car, but I was looking at most cost effiencient. And it was a good choice. Good fuel economy, it's roomy, comfortable to drive and the battery will not cost me $3000 to replace. Plus it was right at $10,000 cheaper than the prius was going to be.

If you want a prius, you need to look deeper than the crap they try to feed you. If you sit in trafic half the day, probably a good car for you. If that is the only thing you use it for. Interstate driving would kill you. (as TG proved) My closest town has one redlight. The next town has 3. I don't spend much of my driving time sitting still or barely moving.

If I ever move, I may give it another look.

killpanda · June 29th, 2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by IceBone

So...

Who wants to touch me? images/smilies/mellow.gif

Superman07 · June 30th, 2008, 12:54 AM

Did anybody else catch the really bad edit of Richard's lap time? He completely lost his nail-mat, and then coming around the final two turns it was back, only to disappear when the next camera pan came! images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Bostonredsock5 · June 30th, 2008, 01:43 AM

I dont know where you live so it may be diffirent in your case. However ALOT of city people have Prius's and it saves money, just think instead of sitting at a light using gas it is on battery power. Now if you wan to talk long term it may be a POS, i dont know. Im saying I dont think that test was a true view of what a hybrid is for. Trust me im not a hybird guy, I have an SUV and unless gas gets nuts i will have one

Cobol74 · June 30th, 2008, 01:46 AM

Hardly any around here.

skylock · June 30th, 2008, 04:31 AM

I just pulled out my papers for when I was looking at a Prius. I was told I would average 48-58 mpg. What the lying bastards failed to tell me was what precentage of time I would need to be running on the battery, ie < 25mph, to obtain those numbers. But it does go on and on about how every time I brake I will be charging the battery.

Now in my case, the time I am <25 mph would be about 5 seconds as I come out of my driveway. But nobody told me anything about that. I figure the only time around here you would run on the battery is if you look for a close parking space at Walmart.

If you do not run on the battery, you get < 20 mpg. But looking through these papers, no where does it say that. Also, I was not told that by the salesman.

Therefore, it is my contention that the top gear spot is no more deceptive than the Priuses own information.

If I was a person that could not think for myself, I would think the TG spot would make me look more into the prius if I was thinking of buying one. If I spent half my life at red lights or crawling in traffic, may be the car for me. But if I stop for a red light twice a week. Not a good car for me.

My friend has one and she loves it. She averages 45 mpg. But she spends 30 min sitting in traffic every day.

My point on this whole thing is yes, good for city driving, bad for rural driving. But it does not say that. It says I will get 48+ miles per gallon and that simply is not true. It should say that straight up. They no longer sell them around here. They only sold 1 to begin with and he had a for sale sign on it after 4 months. I guess he sold it, but I don't know to who because I have not seen it around here.

Andreyblade · July 4th, 2008, 10:12 AM

it was a really good show, you now that they're back images/smilies/biggrin.gif

the police cars were funny as hell

aerodynamic · July 7th, 2008, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stevanford1

Clarkson says that scuderia means team in italian. I looked it up and scuderia means stable. That is my only gripe with the episode.

as an italian jeremy is right.
it means both.

aerodynamic · July 7th, 2008, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by f1freak

I generally agree with the comments so far (jeez, that Carr guy was annoying. And for a gay guy his hair style was pretty bad. I think that was some form of mullet). The cop car segment was amazing, if flawed. I thought the stunt man bit was a little pointless but they did set a record. The 430 film was very well shot and the review was alright.

Now to get nitpicky.

The M3 vs. Prius part was accurate in message, that driving style matters more than anything else, but the test was hardly scientific. A Prius going flat out is on the gas engine all the time, thus making it just like any other small car, and since it was at full throttle most of the time it used way more fuel than in normal driving where the electric motor makes more of a difference. All the M3 had to do was cruise around behind it on part throttle, where the engine is designed to be fuel efficient. The M3 also had the benefit of a slight slip stream from the Prius, which probably made the difference in the mileage between the two cars.

I tend to over analyze things though.

jeremy actually said "At that speed, an M3 consumes less"

Holiace · July 7th, 2008, 05:02 PM

I just wanted to say that I see about 10-20 Priuses every schoolday (and those 10-20 are the non taxi ones)... It's an awful car!

AKADriver · July 12th, 2008, 01:57 AM

Does anyone know where to get a "siren" like James'? I just about died when I heard it.

Rx7sr4 · July 13th, 2008, 11:41 AM

Does anyone know what they keep showing on the tv's in the news part of the show where they don't show us and hammond is always embarressed?

skylock · July 13th, 2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rx7sr4

Does anyone know what they keep showing on the tv's in the news part of the show where they don't show us and hammond is always embarressed?

yeah.

IceBone · July 13th, 2008, 01:21 PM

Yes, we do, it has been said many many many many many many times before. GO SEARCH!

pcbootleger · August 19th, 2008, 05:04 AM

I am new here and I have searched but either I am not inputting the correct search terms or there really is nothing here on it. In the beginning of this episode they showed clips of upcoming episodes. I noticed however that a a few things were not shown such when Richard hammond is in what appears to be some sort of segway with a chair attached to it. Does anyone know where that clip went and why it wasnt aired?

skylock · August 19th, 2008, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pcbootleger

I am new here and I have searched but either I am not inputting the correct search terms or there really is nothing here on it. In the beginning of this episode they showed clips of upcoming episodes. I noticed however that a a few things were not shown such when Richard hammond is in what appears to be some sort of segway with a chair attached to it. Does anyone know where that clip went and why it wasnt aired?

http://forums.finalgear.com/top-gear...ng-bits-29511/

Goob · August 19th, 2008, 12:50 PM

Back to the prius, it was brought to my attention that in case of an accident the batteries aboard the prius may leak. At the accident scene if there is, or there is a possibility, of such a battery leak; the hazmat team has to be called before EMS will even get close to the vehicle.

To me, no amount of fuel savings is worth wasting precious seconds to save someones life.

I am glad that there is a televised team of prius haters, and I am even more glad that its Top Gear.

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June 29th, 2008, 10:48 PM	#363
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 12:11 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,650 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 70	Oh yeah, one thing. In the preview, there's a blue Evo X. I checked the plates, it's the same one as the one i saw and sat in at the ring. The guy said he would have gladly given me a ride on the ring, but his insurance company insisted that it be a show car only, cause 3 cars crashed already that day and it was PACKED. So... Who wants to touch me? __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

June 30th, 2008, 01:46 AM	#368
Cobol74 Joined: Mar 21st, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Southampton Posts: 5,806 Car: Vauxhall Zafira 1.9 TDI Slush box. Rep Power: 50	Hardly any around here. __________________

June 30th, 2008, 04:31 AM	#369
skylock Not A Dude Joined: Jun 3rd, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Posts: 525 Rep Power: 36	I just pulled out my papers for when I was looking at a Prius. I was told I would average 48-58 mpg. What the lying bastards failed to tell me was what precentage of time I would need to be running on the battery, ie < 25mph, to obtain those numbers. But it does go on and on about how every time I brake I will be charging the battery. Now in my case, the time I am <25 mph would be about 5 seconds as I come out of my driveway. But nobody told me anything about that. I figure the only time around here you would run on the battery is if you look for a close parking space at Walmart. If you do not run on the battery, you get < 20 mpg. But looking through these papers, no where does it say that. Also, I was not told that by the salesman. Therefore, it is my contention that the top gear spot is no more deceptive than the Priuses own information. If I was a person that could not think for myself, I would think the TG spot would make me look more into the prius if I was thinking of buying one. If I spent half my life at red lights or crawling in traffic, may be the car for me. But if I stop for a red light twice a week. Not a good car for me. My friend has one and she loves it. She averages 45 mpg. But she spends 30 min sitting in traffic every day. My point on this whole thing is yes, good for city driving, bad for rural driving. But it does not say that. It says I will get 48+ miles per gallon and that simply is not true. It should say that straight up. They no longer sell them around here. They only sold 1 to begin with and he had a for sale sign on it after 4 months. I guess he sold it, but I don't know to who because I have not seen it around here. __________________ Judy People were crashing cars long before Top Gear existed. James May

July 4th, 2008, 10:12 AM	#370
Andreyblade Joined: Jul 4th, 2008 Last Online: October 24th, 2008 Location: bucharest Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	it was a really good show, you now that they're back the police cars were funny as hell __________________ We are, in fact, at the cutting edge of cocking about! Richard Hammond

June 29th, 2008, 10:18 PM	#362
Bostonredsock5 Joined: Jun 29th, 2008 Last Online: July 2nd, 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	I have been watching Top Gear since the first season. The one thing in this episode that got me mad is the M3 vs Prius. A Prius is meant to save gas with a combo of highway and stop and go. Since most people have a stop and go type drive why not do that vs the M3 and see who gets the better results. It seems like they will do anything to make cars they like appear better than anything even if it means looking absurd

June 30th, 2008, 12:54 AM	#366
Superman07 Joined: Nov 15th, 2006 Last Online: November 28th, 2008 Posts: 20 Car: 2003 M3 Rep Power: 0	Did anybody else catch the really bad edit of Richard's lap time? He completely lost his nail-mat, and then coming around the final two turns it was back, only to disappear when the next camera pan came!

June 30th, 2008, 01:43 AM	#367
Bostonredsock5 Joined: Jun 29th, 2008 Last Online: July 2nd, 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	I dont know where you live so it may be diffirent in your case. However ALOT of city people have Prius's and it saves money, just think instead of sitting at a light using gas it is on battery power. Now if you wan to talk long term it may be a POS, i dont know. Im saying I dont think that test was a true view of what a hybrid is for. Trust me im not a hybird guy, I have an SUV and unless gas gets nuts i will have one

July 7th, 2008, 05:02 PM	#373
Holiace Joined: Aug 29th, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Sweden Age: 18 Posts: 119 Car: I don't have one right now :( Rep Power: 6	I just wanted to say that I see about 10-20 Priuses every schoolday (and those 10-20 are the non taxi ones)... It's an awful car! __________________ Always Ambitious, sometimes rubbish.

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AKADriver Joined: Jul 12th, 2008 Last Online: July 12th, 2008 Location: McLean, VA, USA Posts: 1 Car: 2000 MX-5 Rep Power: 0	Does anyone know where to get a "siren" like James'? I just about died when I heard it.

July 13th, 2008, 11:41 AM	#375
Rx7sr4 Joined: Jul 13th, 2008 Last Online: July 13th, 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1 Car: Starion JB 86 VR4 Rep Power: 0	Does anyone know what they keep showing on the tv's in the news part of the show where they don't show us and hammond is always embarressed?

July 13th, 2008, 01:21 PM	#377
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 12:11 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,650 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 70	Yes, we do, it has been said many many many many many many times before. GO SEARCH! __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

August 19th, 2008, 05:04 AM	#378
pcbootleger Joined: Aug 19th, 2008 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Orlando Posts: 2 Car: 2004 VW R32, 2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder Rep Power: 0	I am new here and I have searched but either I am not inputting the correct search terms or there really is nothing here on it. In the beginning of this episode they showed clips of upcoming episodes. I noticed however that a a few things were not shown such when Richard hammond is in what appears to be some sort of segway with a chair attached to it. Does anyone know where that clip went and why it wasnt aired?

August 19th, 2008, 12:50 PM	#380
Goob Joined: Nov 2nd, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Ontario Posts: 20 Car: 2004 Lancer Ralliart Rep Power: 0	Back to the prius, it was brought to my attention that in case of an accident the batteries aboard the prius may leak. At the accident scene if there is, or there is a possibility, of such a battery leak; the hazmat team has to be called before EMS will even get close to the vehicle. To me, no amount of fuel savings is worth wasting precious seconds to save someones life. I am glad that there is a televised team of prius haters, and I am even more glad that its Top Gear.

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