[11x02] June 29th, 2008 - Page 11

IceBone · June 30th, 2008, 11:01 PM

I don't know if that'll happen for sure, i hope mitsu has learned from the past. I agree with you on this. But unlike the Eclipse and the 3000GT, the fattening of the Evo is primarily due to safety regulations. I seriously hope this isn't the beginning of the end... images/smilies/sad.gif

If it is, i'll just get an evo x in a few years, when it's still considered as the daddy. images/smilies/wink.gif

Tobias · July 1st, 2008, 12:03 AM

Loved every bit of this episode. Great leap beyond what they accomplished in the season opener. A show about cars, comparing cars, and talking about cars.

Clarkson's review of the Black Series was his best in ages. He didn't say very much about the technical specifics of the car, but his impression and emotions were so clearly conveyed. The music, the backdrop of the deserted streets--loved it.

Fantastic.

delfindle · July 1st, 2008, 01:49 AM

Great, great show. I really enjoyed this episode. If the rest of the season is like this I can't wait.

OldSkoolGP · July 1st, 2008, 03:28 AM

I liked it! They reviewed cars! What a strange concept! My only complaint is this new two guest thing they've got going on. It's asinine, and could we please see some guests that may have been heard from outside of the UK?

Suburu/Mitsu review: Great

News: Good

RS6 review: Nice to see Hammond do a power car for a change! And I wish they'd let the guys win one of these races just once. Having him pretend to get lost so he'd lose, come on!

TG Stuntman: Good stunt, not sold on him yet. And does James have to be his emcee every time? Captain slow needs to do road tests!

CLK Black review: Good one! I think Jeremy got the piano solo at the end right. Where's the Stig's lap in it? Or in the RS6 for that matter?

I'd say better than last week overall. Can't wait for next week.

Oh, and for those that complained about the rip being a tad late, piss off. Try being grateful for a site like this existing so you can watch the show at all. Thank you Viper and everyone involved for making it all possible! images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

F12Bwth · July 1st, 2008, 04:36 AM

Great Ep. The STi Vs Evo results threw me for a bit.

Does anyone know where to submit the Stupid Signs? Email? Website?

I just snapped a great one from White Plains NY.

static · July 1st, 2008, 06:24 AM

This episode delivered everything the first one didn't. For example the STi vs Evo was very well edited and the whole segment rocked.
RS6 looks gorgeus. The two frenchmen hopping off cliffs with silly parachute don't.

I'll give it a 9 and it deserves it!

boafan · July 1st, 2008, 09:11 AM

well I'm copy and pasting this from another member (thank you for this):

The EVO VS. STI review: 8/10
-nice! I don't really know what is faster anymore, Best Motoring raced both Evo X SST and Manual against the New Sti, old Sti, and Evo 9 and both Evo X lost to everything else. But Best Motoring has always been a bit wonky.

The talk/news: 8/10
-good

RS6 VS. Skiers: 5/10
-BORING. I used to get excited seeing who would win. James May vs. bobsled, GOOD. Hammond versus flying squirrel, GOOD. This, boring. This is looking more like fifth gear kindergarten challenges.

SIARPC: 8/10
-funny, better than last week. No idea who they were (but that's my fault for not being British).

Top Gear Stuntman: 3/10
-useless. Got 3 only because I am a guy and like watching things crash.

Cool Wall: 6/10 (By default since it's finally back)
-entertaining! but obviously biased towards their own views, things moving back and forth for no reason.

CLK Black Series: 1/10
-I hated this part. Instead of a true and proper review reflecting on how good or bad the car was, it was watching jeremy drool over a mercedes. We all know he likes them benzos, but the black series isn't a good car. You all watched fifth gear, you saw why. I can not believe fifth gear made a better review of a car.

I know most people disagree with me that's fine, I just wanted to give my opinion anyway heh. Hopefully the top gear producer will read my comment too images/smilies/blink.gif

tedb43o2o3 · July 1st, 2008, 09:28 AM

Im happy that the Cool wall is back.
Cant believe EvoX lost to the new STI~
RS6 is absolutely brilliant, even the race is kinda pointless.

pitdog · July 1st, 2008, 09:50 AM

Finally had the time to watch the show - top quality Top Gear stuff. Just great. And a BMW became cool images/smilies/wink.gif

IceBone · July 1st, 2008, 12:57 PM

I've already said why the evo lost to the scoobie and even the resident scoobie fanboi couldn't come up with an argument to debunk it. images/smilies/tongue.gif

jo-jo-action · July 1st, 2008, 01:30 PM

There are OUTTAKES on the TG Page of the races:
http://www.topgear.com/content/videos/

Badge · July 1st, 2008, 01:31 PM

This is easily the best form of Top Gear. Sure, the cocking about is often hysterical, but this episode truly shows what the show is about. 3 chaps bangin' on steady about cars. The production quality is top notch, the music selections (as always) terrific and I can't wait to see more. If they keep making shows like this each week, I won't know what my favorite ones are anymore as the top will be too hard to decide.

wikkedsnaab · July 1st, 2008, 04:38 PM

thoroughly good episode. somewhere between this and a bit of cocking about lies Top Gear perfection.

even SIARPC wasn't that bad (though it was very short).

only criticism is that there wasn't enough James. the TGSG bit was actually kinda cool - and they nearly achieved the stunt too - but just not enough screen time for the shaggy-haired one. he really deserved a car review too. though god knows which of the RS6, STi v EVO and Merc you would have given him.

efoolution · July 1st, 2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wikkedsnaab

[...]though god knows which of the RS6, STi v EVO and Merc you would have given him.

lol. You are of course right, James would have looked a bit out of place in those. But I quite like the thought of James May in some pumped-up-car - review. "James May has driven the new ZR-1 to find out I it is any good" ... oh, I´d die laughing ... images/smilies/biggrin.gif

toady · July 1st, 2008, 11:04 PM

I think I need to watch it again as I got called away for a phone call, but that's two weeks with Jeremy on mega contributions and little of James.
Upyourego's post was a good one.After reading, I asked my daughter who was addicted to the previous three series of TG, and watches incessantly on Dave, what she thought of it and her response was 'boring boring boring. waste of time.'

I did see all of SIRPC, and enjoyed that, but expected to because I love Spooks. The Cool Wall was much of the same, but at least tis back.

I think TG has to decide if it is a car review show, or an entertainment programme. If it carries on as this week, it will lose viewers who are not interested in cars but do enjoy the cocking about. I sense a difference in this series so far- I suspect from reading his columns, Clarkson has decided it's back to basics, and that's that. Whether this is a wise move long term, only time will tell.

Karoug · July 2nd, 2008, 12:22 AM

I gave it a 9! The best top gear ep. in a really long time!

watto · July 2nd, 2008, 02:06 AM

The only reason I didn't give it a ten is because May was totally shafted for the whole ep.

And Stunt Man sucks.

Viper007Bond · July 2nd, 2008, 02:17 AM

I kinda like TGSM. images/smilies/wacko.gif

DTMracer · July 2nd, 2008, 02:33 AM

The CLK Black review was brilliant.

Make me want to order one even more now. Must work harder to get the money together!!

billyocean · July 2nd, 2008, 03:58 AM

So overall, I thought the show was good.

But I want to comment on the CLK Black piece. Am I the only one that was dissappointed with this. Here I was thinking that TG was original and all they did was copy VW. I mean the entire concept!

VW - Night Driving

The camera angles, the emotive music...so disappointing.

That being said, it was a nice rip, but I'm sad that it appears they are running out of fresh ideas. And am I the only one that noticed that these guys seemed to have hit mid life crisis's? Seems like all the jokes are sexual innuendos.

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June 30th, 2008, 11:01 PM	#201
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 11:31 PM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,650 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 70	I don't know if that'll happen for sure, i hope mitsu has learned from the past. I agree with you on this. But unlike the Eclipse and the 3000GT, the fattening of the Evo is primarily due to safety regulations. I seriously hope this isn't the beginning of the end... If it is, i'll just get an evo x in a few years, when it's still considered as the daddy. __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

July 1st, 2008, 12:03 AM	#202
Tobias Loves Vicki... Joined: Mar 26th, 2005 Last Online: 11:44 PM Location: New York Posts: 798 Rep Power: 15	Loved every bit of this episode. Great leap beyond what they accomplished in the season opener. A show about cars, comparing cars, and talking about cars. Clarkson's review of the Black Series was his best in ages. He didn't say very much about the technical specifics of the car, but his impression and emotions were so clearly conveyed. The music, the backdrop of the deserted streets--loved it. Fantastic. __________________ no pictures cluttering the board here

July 1st, 2008, 04:36 AM	#205
F12Bwth Joined: Jan 11th, 2005 Last Online: November 28th, 2008 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 112 Rep Power: 16	Great Ep. The STi Vs Evo results threw me for a bit. Does anyone know where to submit the Stupid Signs? Email? Website? I just snapped a great one from White Plains NY. __________________

July 1st, 2008, 09:28 AM	#208
tedb43o2o3 Joined: Jun 6th, 2006 Last Online: 09:36 AM Location: Irvine, CA, USA Posts: 693 Car: 2005 Toyota 4Runner (Parents car...) Rep Power: 15	Im happy that the Cool wall is back. Cant believe EvoX lost to the new STI~ RS6 is absolutely brilliant, even the race is kinda pointless. __________________

July 1st, 2008, 01:49 AM	#203
delfindle Joined: Sep 27th, 2007 Last Online: November 24th, 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5 Car: Impreza Rep Power: 0	Great, great show. I really enjoyed this episode. If the rest of the season is like this I can't wait.

July 1st, 2008, 03:28 AM	#204
OldSkoolGP Joined: Feb 12th, 2007 Last Online: November 11th, 2008 Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Age: 28 Posts: 50 Car: Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Saloon, VW Jetta TDI Rep Power: 9	I liked it! They reviewed cars! What a strange concept! My only complaint is this new two guest thing they've got going on. It's asinine, and could we please see some guests that may have been heard from outside of the UK? Suburu/Mitsu review: Great News: Good RS6 review: Nice to see Hammond do a power car for a change! And I wish they'd let the guys win one of these races just once. Having him pretend to get lost so he'd lose, come on! TG Stuntman: Good stunt, not sold on him yet. And does James have to be his emcee every time? Captain slow needs to do road tests! CLK Black review: Good one! I think Jeremy got the piano solo at the end right. Where's the Stig's lap in it? Or in the RS6 for that matter? I'd say better than last week overall. Can't wait for next week. Oh, and for those that complained about the rip being a tad late, piss off. Try being grateful for a site like this existing so you can watch the show at all. Thank you Viper and everyone involved for making it all possible!

July 1st, 2008, 06:24 AM	#206
static Joined: Jan 12th, 2005 Last Online: 09:14 PM Location: Southern Finland Age: 22 Posts: 685 Rep Power: 16	This episode delivered everything the first one didn't. For example the STi vs Evo was very well edited and the whole segment rocked. RS6 looks gorgeus. The two frenchmen hopping off cliffs with silly parachute don't. I'll give it a 9 and it deserves it!

July 1st, 2008, 09:11 AM	#207
boafan Joined: Apr 19th, 2005 Last Online: November 28th, 2008 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	well I'm copy and pasting this from another member (thank you for this): The EVO VS. STI review: 8/10 -nice! I don't really know what is faster anymore, Best Motoring raced both Evo X SST and Manual against the New Sti, old Sti, and Evo 9 and both Evo X lost to everything else. But Best Motoring has always been a bit wonky. The talk/news: 8/10 -good RS6 VS. Skiers: 5/10 -BORING. I used to get excited seeing who would win. James May vs. bobsled, GOOD. Hammond versus flying squirrel, GOOD. This, boring. This is looking more like fifth gear kindergarten challenges. SIARPC: 8/10 -funny, better than last week. No idea who they were (but that's my fault for not being British). Top Gear Stuntman: 3/10 -useless. Got 3 only because I am a guy and like watching things crash. Cool Wall: 6/10 (By default since it's finally back) -entertaining! but obviously biased towards their own views, things moving back and forth for no reason. CLK Black Series: 1/10 -I hated this part. Instead of a true and proper review reflecting on how good or bad the car was, it was watching jeremy drool over a mercedes. We all know he likes them benzos, but the black series isn't a good car. You all watched fifth gear, you saw why. I can not believe fifth gear made a better review of a car. I know most people disagree with me that's fine, I just wanted to give my opinion anyway heh. Hopefully the top gear producer will read my comment too

July 1st, 2008, 09:50 AM	#209
pitdog Joined: Jun 23rd, 2008 Last Online: 11:38 PM Location: poland Posts: 30 Car: bmw Rep Power: 0	Finally had the time to watch the show - top quality Top Gear stuff. Just great. And a BMW became cool

July 1st, 2008, 12:57 PM	#210
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 11:31 PM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,650 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 70	I've already said why the evo lost to the scoobie and even the resident scoobie fanboi couldn't come up with an argument to debunk it. __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

July 1st, 2008, 01:30 PM	#211
jo-jo-action Joined: May 23rd, 2008 Last Online: 10:51 AM Location: Erlangen/Franken/Germany Posts: 31 Car: VW Passat 32b RIP/ VW Golf 4 Rep Power: 3	There are OUTTAKES on the TG Page of the races: http://www.topgear.com/content/videos/

July 1st, 2008, 01:31 PM	#212
Badge Joined: Jun 28th, 2008 Last Online: November 24th, 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	This is easily the best form of Top Gear. Sure, the cocking about is often hysterical, but this episode truly shows what the show is about. 3 chaps bangin' on steady about cars. The production quality is top notch, the music selections (as always) terrific and I can't wait to see more. If they keep making shows like this each week, I won't know what my favorite ones are anymore as the top will be too hard to decide.

July 1st, 2008, 04:38 PM	#213
wikkedsnaab Joined: Oct 10th, 2006 Last Online: 03:05 PM Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia. Posts: 60 Car: Mercedes Benz 190D 2.5, BMW 316i C Rep Power: 9	thoroughly good episode. somewhere between this and a bit of cocking about lies Top Gear perfection. even SIARPC wasn't that bad (though it was very short). only criticism is that there wasn't enough James. the TGSG bit was actually kinda cool - and they nearly achieved the stunt too - but just not enough screen time for the shaggy-haired one. he really deserved a car review too. though god knows which of the RS6, STi v EVO and Merc you would have given him. __________________ *"You utter* pirate!"**

July 1st, 2008, 11:04 PM	#215
toady Not A Dude Joined: Mar 1st, 2007 Last Online: July 15th, 2008 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	I think I need to watch it again as I got called away for a phone call, but that's two weeks with Jeremy on mega contributions and little of James. Upyourego's post was a good one.After reading, I asked my daughter who was addicted to the previous three series of TG, and watches incessantly on Dave, what she thought of it and her response was 'boring boring boring. waste of time.' I did see all of SIRPC, and enjoyed that, but expected to because I love Spooks. The Cool Wall was much of the same, but at least tis back. I think TG has to decide if it is a car review show, or an entertainment programme. If it carries on as this week, it will lose viewers who are not interested in cars but do enjoy the cocking about. I sense a difference in this series so far- I suspect from reading his columns, Clarkson has decided it's back to basics, and that's that. Whether this is a wise move long term, only time will tell.

July 2nd, 2008, 02:17 AM	#218
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 01:29 PM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,988 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 234	I kinda like TGSM. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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July 2nd, 2008, 12:22 AM	#216
Karoug Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: 04:32 PM Location: Sweden Age: 30 Posts: 1,851 Car: Volvo 745GLT! 3 bikes Rep Power: 22	I gave it a 9! The best top gear ep. in a really long time! __________________

July 2nd, 2008, 02:06 AM	#217
watto Unloved and lacking a title Joined: Jun 13th, 2005 Last Online: 10:33 PM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 23 Posts: 5,352 Car: 1997 VW Golf MkIII CL, Giant OCR 3 Rep Power: 58	The only reason I didn't give it a ten is because May was totally shafted for the whole ep. And Stunt Man sucks.

July 2nd, 2008, 02:33 AM	#219
DTMracer Joined: Oct 6th, 2007 Last Online: 12:05 PM Posts: 1,285 Car: 1988 Mini Cooper, 1998 MB E55 AMG Rep Power: 9	The CLK Black review was brilliant. Make me want to order one even more now. Must work harder to get the money together!!

July 2nd, 2008, 03:58 AM	#220
billyocean Joined: Jul 2nd, 2008 Last Online: November 27th, 2008 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	So overall, I thought the show was good. But I want to comment on the CLK Black piece. Am I the only one that was dissappointed with this. Here I was thinking that TG was original and all they did was copy VW. I mean the entire concept! VW - Night Driving The camera angles, the emotive music...so disappointing. That being said, it was a nice rip, but I'm sad that it appears they are running out of fresh ideas. And am I the only one that noticed that these guys seemed to have hit mid life crisis's? Seems like all the jokes are sexual innuendos.