[12x04] November 23rd, 2008

Viper007Bond · November 23rd, 2008, 9:00 PM

http://www.finalgear.com/shows/topgear/12/4/

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Aston Martin · November 23rd, 2008, 9:01 PM

James buy a new fucking shirt for Christ sake.

Veyron, Veyron, Veyron. images/smilies/cool.gif

That shoulda been a dull race, but was watchable. Jeremy making it there was too obvious.
James did an intro... he reads the board, now James read my top sentence. images/smilies/dry.gif

The Veyron looked slow going around, i'm gutted. images/smilies/sad.gif

p.s. All the TV guides said Kevin McCloud as the star. images/smilies/sad.gif

robybobey · November 23rd, 2008, 9:01 PM

One Word: Brilliant!

WillDAQ · November 23rd, 2008, 9:02 PM

100% epic, it gets 10!

James review with stig epic.

Fuel Economy Run epic (guessing they knew the Jag would go far from the time Jez drove the R to Scotland)

Guest Epic

Zonda v Veyron Epic

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Paddy · November 23rd, 2008, 9:02 PM

Probably my favourite episode of the season so far, wasn't surprised at the Power Board results but my Lord, what a noise off the Zonda !

LadyBella · November 23rd, 2008, 9:03 PM

Koenigsegg still beat Veyron and Zonda.

I am a very happy girl right now. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Shadowness · November 23rd, 2008, 9:03 PM

We had a power cut at the start of the veyron lap images/smilies/sad.gif

Frederic · November 23rd, 2008, 9:03 PM

That's why Bugatti wouldn't lend the Veyron...
Now their marketing sentence 'fastest production car' has a flaw

sebhaque · November 23rd, 2008, 9:03 PM

I reckon the Veyron would have been faster in the other mode with the spoiler down. Would have made a difference on the follow through I think.

Mytola · November 23rd, 2008, 9:04 PM

9/10 for me. James did his first power test (and Stig intro), and the mileage challenge had a lot of laugh-out-loud-moments for me, at least. Awesome Zonda, and we finally saw the Veyron go around the track. SIARPC was a tad boring, though.

beedeebee · November 23rd, 2008, 9:05 PM

Excellent episode. Loved every bit of it!
James tracktest was really good, and funny when he yelled POWWAAHH!
The race was also surprisingly intense, Jeremy making it was also fun. 'Airco on, heat on, all for the sake of burning fuel'.
And finally, the powerlap of the Veyron, I'd expected it to be not the fastest car. I think that it'd do better on a longer track. The spoiler-brake-thing is pretty cool however.

EDIT: Also, today I noticed how awfully long that Lamborghini Estoque is!

Sir Stiggington · November 23rd, 2008, 9:05 PM

AMAZING!

Best episode in a long time...Zonda review was epic with the Stig sliding around the car, and the race was also really exciting...I'm properly impressed with the Jag as well...

As for the times, I'm sure that this was to be expected, the Veyron just isn't quick enough around corners...and I love that Zonda and th enoise it makes...

kekekeke · November 23rd, 2008, 9:06 PM

Very nice episode

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frederic

That's why Bugatti wouldn't lend the Veyron...
Now their marketing sentence 'fastest production car' has a flaw

At that time Bugatti WAS the fastest car in a straight line.

leJames · November 23rd, 2008, 9:06 PM

The race was surprisingly good, very tense stuff. I really enjoyed the episode, but I went to get a cuppa during the SIARPC, that segment is getting boring now.

j8mie · November 23rd, 2008, 9:06 PM

Good solid show this week. They got the balance right of cocking about vs cars. No big complaints from me this week. The fuel race was quite interesting in fact, and yes I know Jezza did something like that before in a Audi A8, but the race element adding something different, and I liked different.

I'm not surprised the Veyron was sooo "slow" round the track, it's butt ugly and has to be the World's most over hyped car ever. Give me a Caparo T1 any day images/smilies/biggrin.gif

TheCleaner · November 23rd, 2008, 9:07 PM

brilliant, felt like tg back to itself, plenty of car reviewing, car news.. hyper super mega cool cars as well as standard cars you may have wondered about owning yourself (i have a 65mpg rated clio dci, but its 100hp, so goes a little tiny bit like stig!) i'd thought about the bluemotion..

BUT, how did they not mention the 4.2L A8's 800mile round trip, its a twin turbo V8, and is even faster than the jag.. so even more impressive, although it was insane that the jag was driven 'normally' for most of the journey

gutted that the veyron didnt top the board, insane straight line grunt, but i guess chucking that weight into corners, as well handled as it may be, just simply scrubs off too much speed.

10/10 for me as my weekend has been damn awful but its cheered me up a lot

Sir Stiggington · November 23rd, 2008, 9:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sebhaque

I reckon the Veyron would have been faster in the other mode with the spoiler down. Would have made a difference on the follow through I think.

No. Downforce is more important than drag, basic aerodynamic prinicple. And in the other mode you cannot touch the brakes, or apply more than 15 degrees steering...

lamboman · November 23rd, 2008, 9:08 PM

7, I think. It was alright, but the Veyron lap was predictable (the cornering speeds was rubbish quite frankly), it's way too heavy. The eco-race was alright too.

kekekeke · November 23rd, 2008, 9:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beedeebee

I think that it'd do better on a longer track.

I think so too. Take the Zonda vs Veyron to any of the current F1 tracks ( apart from the possible exception of Monaco) eg. Monza, China, Sepang, Fuji where you have a wide track and massive acceleration zones we might see a different result.

James May's Laugh · November 23rd, 2008, 9:10 PM

I had a weird De Ja Vu moment during the news, when they were talking about that car with the "surfboard hatch".

Overall good episode. 9/10

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November 23rd, 2008, 9:01 PM	#2
Aston Martin Wirelees noob Joined: Sep 20th, 2006 Last Online: 2:21 AM Location: Hull, England Posts: 2,253 Rep Power: 0	James buy a new fucking shirt for Christ sake. Veyron, Veyron, Veyron. That shoulda been a dull race, but was watchable. Jeremy making it there was too obvious. James did an intro... he reads the board, now James read my top sentence. The Veyron looked slow going around, i'm gutted. p.s. All the TV guides said Kevin McCloud as the star.

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Frederic Joined: Nov 2nd, 2006 Last Online: November 18th, 2009 Location: Belgium (Limburg) Posts: 287 Rep Power: 14	That's why Bugatti wouldn't lend the Veyron... Now their marketing sentence 'fastest production car' has a flaw

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sebhaque Joined: Jun 19th, 2008 Last Online: November 17th, 2009 Location: Bristol, UK Age: 19 Posts: 7 Car: MG ZS Mk2 110 Rep Power: 0	I reckon the Veyron would have been faster in the other mode with the spoiler down. Would have made a difference on the follow through I think.

November 23rd, 2008, 9:04 PM	#10
Mytola Joined: Aug 26th, 2007 Last Online: 8:48 AM Posts: 129 Car: Saab 9-3 LFS Status: Rep Power: 10	9/10 for me. James did his first power test (and Stig intro), and the mileage challenge had a lot of laugh-out-loud-moments for me, at least. Awesome Zonda, and we finally saw the Veyron go around the track. SIARPC was a tad boring, though.

November 23rd, 2008, 9:05 PM	#11
beedeebee Joined: Nov 3rd, 2008 Last Online: July 27th, 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Excellent episode. Loved every bit of it! James tracktest was really good, and funny when he yelled POWWAAHH! The race was also surprisingly intense, Jeremy making it was also fun. 'Airco on, heat on, all for the sake of burning fuel'. And finally, the powerlap of the Veyron, I'd expected it to be not the fastest car. I think that it'd do better on a longer track. The spoiler-brake-thing is pretty cool however. EDIT: Also, today I noticed how awfully long that Lamborghini Estoque is!

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Sir Stiggington Previously known as The Real Stig Joined: May 24th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Geneva, Switzerland Age: 16 Posts: 2,970 Car: McLaren Mercedes MP4/23 :P Rep Power: 41	AMAZING! Best episode in a long time...Zonda review was epic with the Stig sliding around the car, and the race was also really exciting...I'm properly impressed with the Jag as well... As for the times, I'm sure that this was to be expected, the Veyron just isn't quick enough around corners...and I love that Zonda and th enoise it makes... __________________ "The pedal under my right foot isn't so much a throttle, as it is a hyper-space button." -Jeremy Clarkson VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES

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leJames Joined: Nov 9th, 2008 Last Online: July 6th, 2009 Location: Oxford Age: 22 Posts: 5 Car: Ford Focus Rep Power: 0	The race was surprisingly good, very tense stuff. I really enjoyed the episode, but I went to get a cuppa during the SIARPC, that segment is getting boring now.

November 23rd, 2008, 9:06 PM	#15
j8mie Joined: Jun 1st, 2007 Last Online: October 30th, 2009 Posts: 157 Rep Power: 13	Good solid show this week. They got the balance right of cocking about vs cars. No big complaints from me this week. The fuel race was quite interesting in fact, and yes I know Jezza did something like that before in a Audi A8, but the race element adding something different, and I liked different. I'm not surprised the Veyron was sooo "slow" round the track, it's butt ugly and has to be the World's most over hyped car ever. Give me a Caparo T1 any day

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TheCleaner Joined: Nov 22nd, 2005 Last Online: November 14th, 2009 Location: Newcastle, England Posts: 288 Car: 2004 Clio dCi 1.5 100HP Rep Power: 17	brilliant, felt like tg back to itself, plenty of car reviewing, car news.. hyper super mega cool cars as well as standard cars you may have wondered about owning yourself (i have a 65mpg rated clio dci, but its 100hp, so goes a little tiny bit like stig!) i'd thought about the bluemotion.. BUT, how did they not mention the 4.2L A8's 800mile round trip, its a twin turbo V8, and is even faster than the jag.. so even more impressive, although it was insane that the jag was driven 'normally' for most of the journey gutted that the veyron didnt top the board, insane straight line grunt, but i guess chucking that weight into corners, as well handled as it may be, just simply scrubs off too much speed. 10/10 for me as my weekend has been damn awful but its cheered me up a lot __________________ Last edited by TheCleaner; November 23rd, 2008 at 9:19 PM.

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lamboman Joined: Feb 13th, 2007 Last Online: November 15th, 2009 Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	7, I think. It was alright, but the Veyron lap was predictable (the cornering speeds was rubbish quite frankly), it's way too heavy. The eco-race was alright too.

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