December 12th, 2004 - Page 2

Daniel · December 14th, 2004, 01:18 AM

I hope you guys will enjoy this as much as I did. The time went by so fast! Also,look forward to JC's last line. VERY funny! images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

Viper007Bond · December 14th, 2004, 01:24 AM

Holy crap, we must have like a half dozen 100 mbit boxes seeding this sucker. images/smilies/eek.gif

Daniel · December 14th, 2004, 01:28 AM

?? I got it from Nova you know... Didnt miss any minutes through the end either images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

allaboutme · December 14th, 2004, 01:38 AM

What is the song roughly 45:45 into the program? I'm basing the time on another rip but it is around the section for car of the year with money no object (enzo, db9, discovery). So what is the song? I asked in another episode and no one knew. I'm hoping someone has figured it out.

Daniel · December 14th, 2004, 01:40 AM

^That should be put in the "Whats that song" thread. I dont know the song myself, but I suppose zenon does! images/smilies/wink.gif

p0w3r · December 14th, 2004, 01:50 AM

That evo is awesome! images/smilies/ohmy.gif

Imagine the look on Lamborghini driver's face when they got beaten by a 4 door sedan images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

allaboutme · December 14th, 2004, 01:50 AM

I'm certain the song thread is locked so that I can ask here...

Edit: Nevermind. I see the thread is actually open now

a89aries · December 14th, 2004, 02:28 AM

130kb/s! w00t! Il upload at least 5 copys of it, thats all night at 30kb/s (max upload speed) images/smilies/sad.gif

M5Rangerover · December 14th, 2004, 03:22 AM

did anyone else notice that the evo blows a bit of black smoke when it is accelerating in one scene?

Wally · December 14th, 2004, 03:35 AM

Pretty good episode.

The quality off the 700+mb on from suprnova is substantially better though. But viper's release is quite good as well in comparison to older releases.

The evo MR is a beast, i doubt they're still using that potatoe turbo on N. American version. As for the black smoke... I seriously hope it's not burning oil, but they did say it requires a tune-up every 4000mi. Possibly improperly burnt fuel? Stock settings running too lean?

All-in-all, it seems like a godsend to aftermarket tuners. Anyone know the specs? like how big the injectors, turbo specs, gearing, compr. etc?

Tha_bounce · December 14th, 2004, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally

Anyone know the specs? like how big the injectors, turbo specs, gearing, compr. etc?

Found this off, some website

Custom built Garrett GT Dual Ball bearing Turbocharger
Owen Developments custom manufactured cast Stainless Steel Exhaust Manifold and Exhaust Elbow
Omega Forged Pistons
HKS Forged Con Rods
HKS 680cc Injectors
Zytec ITP116 High Pressure Fuel Pump
HKS 1.6 mm Steel Head Gasket
Motec M800 OEM ECU
HKS Iridium Spark Plugs
Jan Speed High Flow Sports Cat
Alcon competition derived 240 mm high clamp mode, heavy duty clutch complete with Cera-metallic 6 paddle sprung centred drive plate
HKS High Strength Head and Big End Bolts
Alcon Mono6 Brake Kit incorporating Monobloc 6 pot road caliper with 343 mm curved vein Disc on a Aluminium mounting bell assembly with Ferodo DS2500 brake pads
Ralliart Aero Mirrors
Carbon Fibre Front Lip Spoiler
Carbon Fibre "Sharks Tooth" Rear Vortex Generator
PIAA High Performance Light and Wiper Upgrade
Gloss Black Team Dynamics Lightweight Alloy Wheels
Driver Training Course

Wally · December 14th, 2004, 04:11 AM

geez... i guess depending on the amount of boost and turbo trim, this thing should be doing more than 400whp... no less 400bhp.

Those are some pricey components, it seems like a no expense spared build-up. Mistu must've intended on running some serious boost, they even got a thicker headgasket to lower the compression. Yikes, Motec management, 680 injectors, and an 120LPH fuel pump; it should've decimated the lambo.

I suppose to meet regulations and such they've detuned the car in one way or the other. But from what they said on top gear, it equates to a $100k+ cdn car? Sorry, but I'd much rather import an EVO 8 from the states and drop $50k.... where in turn getting a far superior car.

logo · December 14th, 2004, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M5Rangerover

did anyone else notice that the evo blows a bit of black smoke when it is accelerating in one scene?

well its either gonna be smoke or back fire, its normal on highly tuned cars.

asthenia · December 14th, 2004, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M5Rangerover

did anyone else notice that the evo blows a bit of black smoke when it is accelerating in one scene?

At wide-open throttle, all engine computers ignore mixture and dump as much fuel in the engine as they can.

Too much fuel = rich = black smoke. Especially on a car with oversize injectors.

Wally · December 14th, 2004, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asthenia

Quote:

Originally Posted by M5Rangerover

did anyone else notice that the evo blows a bit of black smoke when it is accelerating in one scene?

At wide-open throttle, all engine computers ignore mixture and dump as much fuel in the engine as they can.

Too much fuel = rich = black smoke. Especially on a car with oversize injectors.

Are you certain about that? For instance, dyno runs are done at WOT but most ems's will still tune air/fuel

Raider · December 14th, 2004, 06:11 AM

it was an alright episode...
first episode i've actually skipped around in instead of sitting there and watching all of it...

asthenia · December 14th, 2004, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally

Are you certain about that? For instance, dyno runs are done at WOT but most ems's will still tune air/fuel

Yeah. At 100% throttle, the ECU stops caring about emissions controls and tunes for absolute maximum power. Especially on a turbo car, to keep from detonating and turning the engine into a grenade, that means running rich.

sandys · December 14th, 2004, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally

The quality off the 700+mb on from suprnova is substantially better though. But viper's release is quite good as well in comparison to older releases.

Thats the cost of compression, the original source file for top gear is around 1.7-1.9Gb of Mpeg2 at 1024x576 and a bit rate of around 6.5Mb a second so you are losing quite a bit of info when reducing the size down to 350Mb even with Mpeg4 compression.

Wally · December 14th, 2004, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asthenia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally

Are you certain about that? For instance, dyno runs are done at WOT but most ems's will still tune air/fuel

Yeah. At 100% throttle, the ECU stops caring about emissions controls and tunes for absolute maximum power. Especially on a turbo car, to keep from detonating and turning the engine into a grenade, that means running rich.

Are you referring to just the EVO or all cars in general? and all ECU/EMS units, factory and aftermarket?

pulse · December 14th, 2004, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Holy crap, we must have like a half dozen 100 mbit boxes seeding this sucker. images/smilies/eek.gif

If we run out of bandwidth.. I've got 2 more images/smilies/wink.gif

Anyway, I liked this episode images/smilies/smile.gif

And I don't think the Mustang review was as critical as you guys were expecting (even JC said he liked it)

December 14th, 2004, 01:18 AM	#21
Daniel Joined: Sep 25th, 2004 Last Online: November 16th, 2008 Location: Stavanger - Norway Posts: 2,337 Rep Power: 0	I hope you guys will enjoy this as much as I did. The time went by so fast! Also,look forward to JC's last line. VERY funny! __________________ Jeremy Clarkson's Online Articles

December 14th, 2004, 01:24 AM	#22
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 01:29 PM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,988 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 234	Holy crap, we must have like a half dozen 100 mbit boxes seeding this sucker. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

December 14th, 2004, 01:28 AM	#23
Daniel Joined: Sep 25th, 2004 Last Online: November 16th, 2008 Location: Stavanger - Norway Posts: 2,337 Rep Power: 0	?? I got it from Nova you know... Didnt miss any minutes through the end either __________________ Jeremy Clarkson's Online Articles

December 14th, 2004, 01:38 AM	#24
allaboutme Joined: Aug 24th, 2004 Last Online: August 8th, 2005 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	name that song What is the song roughly 45:45 into the program? I'm basing the time on another rip but it is around the section for car of the year with money no object (enzo, db9, discovery). So what is the song? I asked in another episode and no one knew. I'm hoping someone has figured it out.

December 14th, 2004, 01:40 AM	#25
Daniel Joined: Sep 25th, 2004 Last Online: November 16th, 2008 Location: Stavanger - Norway Posts: 2,337 Rep Power: 0	^That should be put in the "Whats that song" thread. I dont know the song myself, but I suppose zenon does! __________________ Jeremy Clarkson's Online Articles

December 14th, 2004, 01:50 AM	#26
p0w3r Joined: May 21st, 2004 Last Online: 11:16 AM Location: New York City! Age: 19 Posts: 1,142 Car: 2008 Audi A4 2.0T Rep Power: 20	That evo is awesome! Imagine the look on Lamborghini driver's face when they got beaten by a 4 door sedan

December 14th, 2004, 02:28 AM	#28
a89aries Joined: Aug 25th, 2004 Last Online: November 25th, 2008 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	130kb/s! w00t! Il upload at least 5 copys of it, thats all night at 30kb/s (max upload speed)

December 14th, 2004, 03:22 AM	#29
M5Rangerover Joined: Jan 28th, 2004 Last Online: November 26th, 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	did anyone else notice that the evo blows a bit of black smoke when it is accelerating in one scene? __________________ ----------- 1986 325 ----------------------------------------------------------- 1987 325ic -----------

December 14th, 2004, 03:35 AM	#30
Wally Joined: Dec 7th, 2004 Last Online: November 12th, 2008 Location: AB, Canada Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Pretty good episode. The quality off the 700+mb on from suprnova is substantially better though. But viper's release is quite good as well in comparison to older releases. The evo MR is a beast, i doubt they're still using that potatoe turbo on N. American version. As for the black smoke... I seriously hope it's not burning oil, but they did say it requires a tune-up every 4000mi. Possibly improperly burnt fuel? Stock settings running too lean? All-in-all, it seems like a godsend to aftermarket tuners. Anyone know the specs? like how big the injectors, turbo specs, gearing, compr. etc?

December 14th, 2004, 04:11 AM	#32
Wally Joined: Dec 7th, 2004 Last Online: November 12th, 2008 Location: AB, Canada Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	geez... i guess depending on the amount of boost and turbo trim, this thing should be doing more than 400whp... no less 400bhp. Those are some pricey components, it seems like a no expense spared build-up. Mistu must've intended on running some serious boost, they even got a thicker headgasket to lower the compression. Yikes, Motec management, 680 injectors, and an 120LPH fuel pump; it should've decimated the lambo. I suppose to meet regulations and such they've detuned the car in one way or the other. But from what they said on top gear, it equates to a $100k+ cdn car? Sorry, but I'd much rather import an EVO 8 from the states and drop $50k.... where in turn getting a far superior car.

December 14th, 2004, 06:11 AM	#36
Raider Joined: Jan 22nd, 2004 Last Online: November 19th, 2008 Posts: 518 Rep Power: 0	it was an alright episode... first episode i've actually skipped around in instead of sitting there and watching all of it...

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