Hammond: Timewatch: Bloody Omaha

TurnerGTX · January 2nd, 2008, 01:06 AM

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BBC TWO Sun 6 Jan, 9:00 pm - 10:00 pm

Bloody Omaha

More than 60 years ago, the fate of the Second World War turned on five Normandy beaches. 'D-Day' was the greatest amphibious invasion ever attempted and is remembered as a great victory. But on Omaha Beach, it was very nearly a disaster.

History records that within hours, 2,000 men were cut down. But now, new research has found that, in reality, the casualty figures were more than double that.

The story of D-Day has been re-told in dramas such as Saving Private Ryan. But what really happened on Omaha Beach in June 1944? What was it like for the men who had to fight their way ashore there? And how did they manage to win when so much seemed to go so wrong?

The re-emergence of an entire German battery, hidden under the Normandy soil for over 60 years; the discovery of a captured German map; and the latest historical research all reveal a startling turning point to the story of 'Bloody Omaha'.

Presented by Richard Hammond.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/listings..._4224_11809_60

eddysdaman · January 2nd, 2008, 01:13 AM

OOO Yay. War Doco.

These fascinate me immensely. Rip Please!!

MattD1zzl3 · January 2nd, 2008, 03:07 AM

THis must be ripped...

Praising americans on BBC? Impossible!

teeb · January 2nd, 2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MattD1zzl3

Praising americans on BBC? Impossible!

Unlike some countries, we like to remember that there were more than just our own troops involved in the retaking of France images/smilies/tongue.gif

Cobol74 · January 2nd, 2008, 05:49 PM

I read somewhere that there were troops from something like 11 allied nations involved in one way or another.

Fact: 2 x US beaches, 2 x British Beaches & 1 x Canadian.

On OMAHA beach there was a cockup with the DD tanks that were launched too far out and the wind and tide conditions plus the course that the tank crews were told to steer meant that only one Tank got there - no tank support = massacre on the beach.

The Documentary may have more/updated information in it.

zaybxcwd12 · January 2nd, 2008, 06:09 PM

Don't understand Omaha, why a British program focus on that rather than Juno and Sword?

Cobol74 · January 2nd, 2008, 06:18 PM

It all went pearshaped on OMAHA, so it is more interesting, the other beaches were comparatively well planned and executed.

The situation was rescued by the determination, bravery and skill of the troops on the beach - I beleive that one US Destroyer 'disobeyed' orders and came right in shore and was instramental in saving many lives and gaining victory, providing excellent and accurate support fire.

EDIT/ USS Frankford

The Wiki is pretty good and corrects me on a number of points of detail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omaha_Beach

darkday2 · January 3rd, 2008, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by zaybxcwd12

Don't understand Omaha, why a British program focus on that rather than Juno and Sword?

Bloody Omaha is called bloody for a reason. THOUSANDS of lives were lost in a matter of hours, it wasn't just the tanks that couldn't make it. The germans were supposed to have been much weaker but instead they were there in full force. I suggest you watch this if you really don't know the difference between ohama and any other landing beach.

ViperVX · January 3rd, 2008, 09:30 AM

Hammond is useless in presenting docs, Clarkson cud do ti so much better...

narin · January 3rd, 2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ViperVX

Hammond is useless in presenting docs, Clarkson cud do ti so much better...

agreed clarkson's really good at that. imo richard seems better at presenting entertaining shows. then again i don't think i've seen richard present such a thing so who knows he could be good at it.

vyllu · January 3rd, 2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ViperVX

Hammond is useless in presenting docs, Clarkson cud do ti so much better...

I wouldn't call Hamster useless at docs. I mean I thought the Evil doc/entertainment show was brilliant.
But to be honest WWII should be left to mr. Clarkson and if Richard really does want to make a historic films he should stick to the middle ages (eg. the Holy Grail and the Gunpowder plot).

narin · January 3rd, 2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by vyllu

if Richard really does want to make a historic films he should stick to the middle ages (eg. the Holy Grail and the Gunpowder plot).

i completely forgot about the gunpowder plot show. he did a really good job at presenting it. now i'm really looking forward to this doc.

darkday2 · January 3rd, 2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVX

Hammond is useless in presenting docs, Clarkson cud do ti so much better...

I don't think I've seen him do any aside from the evil one. I love clarkson's though.

Can anyone tell me where I can get the gun powder plot show?

narin · January 4th, 2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by darkday2

I don't think I've seen him do any aside from the evil one. I love clarkson's though.

Can anyone tell me where I can get the gun powder plot show?

if you're not anal on quality, it's on youtube, it's in 8 parts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9oDBXLjQcE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9oDBXLjQcE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTFFSPy8Vsg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyJMOQcAjD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6I0Z3EBgqY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY481fvK5bw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFytcsA9mU8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skPxy3QC-DE

ahpadt · January 4th, 2008, 12:15 AM

As said before by others; I prefer Clarkson on docu's.

darkday2 · January 4th, 2008, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by narin

if you're not anal on quality, it's on youtube, it's in 8 parts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9oDBXLjQcE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9oDBXLjQcE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTFFSPy8Vsg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyJMOQcAjD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6I0Z3EBgqY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY481fvK5bw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFytcsA9mU8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skPxy3QC-DE

Thanks, I'll check that out. Hopefully I will be able to find a torrent sometime so it's all one file but the youtube will work for now and is certainly better then nothing! images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Ottobon · January 4th, 2008, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by narin

if you're not anal on quality, it's on youtube, it's in 8 parts

if your not anal? more like "if you have no standards whatsoever, heres youtube"

Alasondro Alegré · January 4th, 2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by darkday2

Thanks, I'll check that out. Hopefully I will be able to find a torrent sometime so it's all one file but the youtube will work for now and is certainly better then nothing! images/smilies/biggrin.gif

This thread has Rapidshare and torrent links. I believe it's also in 95's FTP.

epp_b · January 4th, 2008, 08:10 PM

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Hammond is useless in presenting docs, Clarkson cud do ti so much better...

Clarkson could do better, but Hammond is far from useless.

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...Hopefully I will be able to find a torrent sometime so it's all one file...

Mininova is your friend images/smilies/smile.gif

darkday2 · January 4th, 2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by epp_b

Clarkson could do better, but Hammond is far from useless.

Mininova is your friend images/smilies/smile.gif

Hey I was getting there. images/smilies/tongue.gif

I forgot to look yesterday because I was trying to get all of my top gear and other british program files organized so I can back all of them up. Then when I posted that it was 1:30 in the morning. I'm not really a lazy bastard I swear. images/smilies/sad.gif

Thankyou for the link though I appreciate it.

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Cobol74 Joined: Mar 21st, 2006 Last Online: 02:32 AM Location: Southampton Posts: 6,226 Car: Vauxhall Zafira 1.9 TDI Slush box. Rep Power: 58	I read somewhere that there were troops from something like 11 allied nations involved in one way or another. Fact: 2 x US beaches, 2 x British Beaches & 1 x Canadian. On OMAHA beach there was a cockup with the DD tanks that were launched too far out and the wind and tide conditions plus the course that the tank crews were told to steer meant that only one Tank got there - no tank support = massacre on the beach. The Documentary may have more/updated information in it. __________________

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Cobol74 Joined: Mar 21st, 2006 Last Online: 02:32 AM Location: Southampton Posts: 6,226 Car: Vauxhall Zafira 1.9 TDI Slush box. Rep Power: 58	It all went pearshaped on OMAHA, so it is more interesting, the other beaches were comparatively well planned and executed. The situation was rescued by the determination, bravery and skill of the troops on the beach - I beleive that one US Destroyer 'disobeyed' orders and came right in shore and was instramental in saving many lives and gaining victory, providing excellent and accurate support fire. EDIT/ USS Frankford The Wiki is pretty good and corrects me on a number of points of detail. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omaha_Beach __________________ Last edited by Cobol74; January 2nd, 2008 at 06:42 PM..

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zaybxcwd12 Joined: Jul 17th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Newcastle u Tyne Uk Age: 39 Posts: 789 Car: 2008 VW Touran S Rep Power: 11	Don't understand Omaha, why a British program focus on that rather than Juno and Sword?

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ahpadt Joined: May 7th, 2006 Last Online: 01:27 AM Location: The Norwaylands Posts: 2,830 Rep Power: 28	As said before by others; I prefer Clarkson on docu's.

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