[07x01] November 13th, 2005 - Page 3

bartboy9891 · November 4th, 2005, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by vasu

About that Ascari

"This is one of the most exclusive and coveted cars in the world; only 50 will be created, priced at £235,000 each. The KZ1 takes 340 hours to handcraft by 30 specialist engineers with expertise in Formula 1 and Touring Cars.

The carbon-fibre monocoque chassis and body shell weighs 1,330kg and is powered by a V8 engine [from BMW] tuned to deliver 500bhp, combined with power to weight ratio of 376bhp per tonne, enabling the KZ1 to achieve 60mph in just 3.7 seconds and an exhilarating top speed of 200mph."

it was on FG once. Tiff said that it was very easy to drive, but not really set up for hard-core driving.

zgrabill · November 7th, 2005, 05:11 PM

I predict they all prefer the Aston for reasons of aesthetics and soul.

bihus · November 7th, 2005, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dins

james will go for the aston, jeremy will be torn between the aston and the m6, but will decide in favour of the m6 because of its power. hammond will probably say that he should love the 911, but will go for the m6 eventually.

Who in their right mind would choose a M6 over a 911 C2S or a AM V8?

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Originally Posted by zgrabill

I predict they all prefer the Aston for reasons of aesthetics and soul.

I think you're right. They'll say the 911 is better but the Aston... just look at it... The M6 is just like a muscle car, when compared to the others.

VMax · November 8th, 2005, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Blythy

Enzo Ferrari = F60

I prefer F60 because it continues along the lines of the F- range, although the F60 has no rear wing images/smilies/sad.gif

Just to be clear about this, Top Gear called it the Enzo an F60 for some unfathomable reason, but the Enzo is NOT the F60, and there will be a car along soon which is presently expected to be known as the F60.

haz · November 8th, 2005, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Blythy

Enzo Ferrari = F60

Well, referring to the Enzo as "F-60" isn't correct at all .. as they will make another supercar later on and it being named the "F-60" ....

Besides, the F-40 was to celebrate Ferraris 40 years, and the F-50 Ferraris 50 years, and the Enzo wasn't ....

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Originally Posted by Blythy

although the F60 has no rear wing images/smilies/sad.gif

That's a BS comparison ... if you are going to compare those cars, you might as well point out the the F-50 didn't use turbo, like the F-40 did .............

Damn it ... Vmax beat me to it ...........

haz

watto · November 8th, 2005, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by haz

Damn it ... Vmax beat me to it ...........

haz

lol, by almost 3 hours haz!

And yeah, you can't compare the F40, F50 or Enzo. They're all completely different in terms of the engines, technology. They're as good as each other in their own unique ways.

haz · November 8th, 2005, 02:25 PM

word.

haz

Scud · November 8th, 2005, 03:11 PM

The Enzo is the F60..

VMax · November 8th, 2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scud

The Enzo is the F60..

It is not, it never has been, and it never will be. When Top Gear used the two names interchangeably, they were incorrect.
As Haz has correctly stated, the F40 was to celebrate 40 years of Ferrari, F50 was 50 years of Ferrari. The Enzo production run was finished well before the 60th anniversary of the marque, there will be another car for that purpose, and it will be named the F60.

Kebab gud · November 9th, 2005, 02:43 PM

i might be wrong but right NOW .. they are filming the studio bits for this episode ..
so its not that far away now!

Kebab gud · November 9th, 2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VMax

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Originally Posted by Scud

The Enzo is the F60..

It is not, it never has been, and it never will be. When Top Gear used the two names interchangeably, they were incorrect.
As Haz has correctly stated, the F40 was to celebrate 40 years of Ferrari, F50 was 50 years of Ferrari. The Enzo production run was finished well before the 60th anniversary of the marque, there will be another car for that purpose, and it will be named the F60.

wrong .. when the enzo was first shown it was calld the Enzo Ferrari F60 ..
when they started to giv them to the owners they changed it to Ferrari Enzo ..
i remember like it was yesterday that on ferraris own site .. it was calld the "Enzo Ferrari F60"
now .. Ferrari Enzo .. they droped the F60 and put enzo behind Ferrari.. so now the Enzo is just a name.. but it was like a "new higher brand " when it was shown for the first time.,..

VMax · November 9th, 2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kebab gud

wrong .. when the enzo was first shown it was calld the Enzo Ferrari F60 ..
when they started to giv them to the owners they changed it to Ferrari Enzo ..
i remember like it was yesterday that on ferraris own site .. it was calld the "Enzo Ferrari F60"
now .. Ferrari Enzo .. they droped the F60 and put enzo behind Ferrari.. so now the Enzo is just a name.. but it was like a "new higher brand " when it was shown for the first time.,..

The name "F60" was never used from the moment the car was released - nobody I know recalls ever hearing it before that from Ferrari themselves either (one of the people I checked with had a deposit on one), but maybe it was, who knows. The fact remains though, that the official name at release and ever since has been "Enzo", no F60 anywhere.

Kebab gud · November 9th, 2005, 02:56 PM

no .. the firsdt name was FX.. then it became Enzo Ferrari F60 .. then Ferrari Enzo ..

VMax · November 9th, 2005, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kebab gud

no .. the firsdt name was FX.. then it became Enzo Ferrari F60 .. then Ferrari Enzo ..

FX was the codename. F60 may or may not have been used to refer to the prototype before it was launched, but it has NEVER been used by Ferrari post-launch. You're welcome to disagree, but you'll be wrong.

Kebab gud · November 9th, 2005, 07:06 PM

no you are wrong .. i KNOE for a fact that ferrari had the name F60 on its website .. but they changed it .. in the last second

Secret_Stash · November 9th, 2005, 11:11 PM

Just to let everyone know that the KZ1 was driven by The Stig today and posted a very fast time. Stiggy loved it!!! I don't want to say how fast as it might spoil it for some!!!

S_S

hokiethang · November 9th, 2005, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kebab gud

no you are wrong .. i KNOE for a fact that ferrari had the name F60 on its website .. but they changed it .. in the last second

Does it matter? No.

It's not now, so it isn't an F60.

bartboy9891 · November 10th, 2005, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Secret_Stash

Just to let everyone know that the KZ1 was driven by The Stig today and posted a very fast time. Stiggy loved it!!! I don't want to say how fast as it might spoil it for some!!!

S_S

you know this, how? images/smilies/smile.gif

SiR_dude · November 10th, 2005, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kebab gud

no you are wrong .. i KNOE for a fact that ferrari had the name F60 on its website .. but they changed it .. in the last second

Read what VMAX wrote - he said that the "F60" name was never used POST-LAUNCH. That means AFTER they started selling it. He's also saying that they MAY have used the F60 name earlier, which is what you are saying.

Secret_Stash · November 10th, 2005, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bartboy9891

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Originally Posted by Secret_Stash

Just to let everyone know that the KZ1 was driven by The Stig today and posted a very fast time. Stiggy loved it!!! I don't want to say how fast as it might spoil it for some!!!

S_S

you know this, how? images/smilies/smile.gif

I just do, The Hamster drove it a few weeks ago for the test drive bit and he also liked it, he said that May will like it but obviously Clarkson won't. There's a sketch/piss take about the owner of Ascari with a reference to a James Bond film!!! And if you know what he looks like you'll know what Bond film it is.

S_S

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