New Celebrity?

DanteSS3 · May 16th, 2009, 11:47 PM

I don't know if this is just a typo or foolhardy by the Top Gear Magazine lot, but in the back section with all the stats on cars and what not, there is a new entry for a Chevrolet Cruze (P172):
"The replacement for the 'reasonably priced car'...."

What do you think?
Car does look pretty nice, but the pic is only small.

skylock · May 17th, 2009, 1:28 AM

Well the board is getting filled up on the other car so they probably need one.

Speedtouch · May 17th, 2009, 1:51 PM

I had a look last night and understand it. It is simply saying that the Cruze is the car which is replacing the Lacetti in the Chevrolet line up, and it is replacing the 'reasonably priced car' in the sense that it is the new one to buy.

I could be wrong and they have actually got a new one, but I doubt that.

be-ach · May 18th, 2009, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedtouch

I had a look last night and understand it. It is simply saying that the Cruze is the car which is replacing the Lacetti in the Chevrolet line up, and it is replacing the 'reasonably priced car' in the sense that it is the new one to buy.

I could be wrong and they have actually got a new one, but I doubt that.

I don't know, the Liana was around for 7 series right? The Lacetti has been around for for 8-12 so thats been a while. Not quite as long as the Liana obviously but a new one wouldn't shock me, though I hope they don't because when they replaced the Liana the segment was pretty boring for all of that series, with so few names on the leader board.

shellygrrl · May 18th, 2009, 4:20 AM

Yeah; the Liana was the RPC was for the first seven series (2002-05); and it was retained for the F1 guests. The Lacetti (2006-present) has yet to match it. Personally, I think they should keep the Lacetti for these next two seasons, then introduce a new RPC next year (Series 15).

flydiscovery · May 18th, 2009, 4:37 AM

Well also keep in mind they were running two stars at a time for a while there. The only real reason I see is if the Lacetti is being cut from manufacturing it will slowly become more difficult to get the vast amount of parts they seem to go through.

warren · May 19th, 2009, 4:33 AM

Here's the break-down of how many people drove a lap:

Series 1: 9
Series 2: 10
Series 3: 9
Series 4: 10
Series 5: 11 (including the blind man)
Series 6: 10
Series 7: 6

That's 65.

Series 8: 15 (7 on the first episode)
Series 9: 5
Series 10: 10
Series 11: 11
Series 12: 7

That's 48.

Assuming they have 14 guests this year, they still wouldn't have sent as many people around in the Lacetti as in the Liana.

shellygrrl · May 20th, 2009, 4:57 AM

A little more than 65 drove the Liana, actually. Remember it was retained for F1 guests.

* Stig gave it a send-off lap in 8x02.
* Jenson Button in 8x08.
* Lewis Hamilton in 10x08.

Also...
* The S1 total for the Liana is ten. (Jeremy also took it around the track, to get a time on the SIARPC board. I'm not sure if this aired or not, but I'm noting it nonetheless.)
* The S6 total for the Liana is twelve. (In 6x10, F1 driver Mark Webber took it for a lap as well as Davina McCall; the SIARPC segment for 6x06 (Question Time's David Dimbleby) was not aired in the US or Canada).
* The S10 total for the Lacetti is nine (see note on Lewis Hamilton above).

Overall...

Suzuki Liana
S1: 10 (incl. Jeremy)
S2: 10
S3: 9
S4: 10
S5: 11 (incl. Blind Man)
S6: 12
S7: 6
S8: 2
S10: 1
TOTAL: 71

Chevrolet Lacetti
S8: 15
S9: 5
S10: 9
S11: 11
S12: 7
TOTAL: 47

Street Spirit · May 20th, 2009, 12:34 PM

I think they mean the Cruze replaces the Lacetti in the Chevrolet/Daewoo lineup. Check this out:

Quote:

Cruze replaces two unrelated cars—the Chevrolet Cobalt and Daewoo Lacetti.

(Wikipedia) Chevrolet Cruze

warren · May 26th, 2009, 5:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shellygrrl

A little more than 65 drove the Liana, actually. Remember it was retained for F1 guests.

A fair point.

But what exactly are we counting, anyways? The number of people on the board? because none of the F1 people went on the SIARPC board, nor did the Stig.

If we count laps that have gone on the board, Wikipedia says it's 67 for the old car and 46 for the new one -- i.e. either we're both wrong or Wikipedia is wrong. images/smilies/smile.gif

shellygrrl · May 26th, 2009, 6:54 AM

I'm taking into account how many have driven each car as of the end of S12 and have posted a time on either the celeb board or the F1 board. To date, 71 have driven the Liana (yes, 65 if you don't count the F1 drivers or Stig), 46* in the Lacetti. Presuming there is one SIARPC every episode in the next two series, and none of those guests are F1 drivers, and also presuming there isn't a road trip special (a la the US fly-drive (9x03), Botswana or Vietnam) which would preempt the segment entirely, the total number of drivers for the Lacetti, after Series 14, will be 60--just five shy of the Liana's final total, discounting the F1 drivers and Stig. (Taking F1+Stig into account, the total would be eleven shy, of course.)

* I miscounted the total in the Lacetti for S8. It's fourteen (seven in 8x01 to get the new board started; the other seven in each of the following episodes, obviously not counting Jenson Button (F1 board, Liana)), not fifteen.

Alasondro Alegré · May 26th, 2009, 5:26 PM

I think it would make sense to keep the Lacetti until the end of this year, and maybe come back with a new one next year.

Cobol74 · May 26th, 2009, 5:31 PM

One point - Budget cuts, can they afford a new one, no matter how reasonably priced it is?

pepitko · May 26th, 2009, 6:03 PM

they should do another asian/reasonably priced car challenge to find the replacement (like that did with Lacetti), doesn't necessarily have to be a Chevrolet..

iam-nobody · May 26th, 2009, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobol74

One point - Budget cuts, can they afford a new one, no matter how reasonably priced it is?

How old does a car have to be for them to clam the scrap allowance ?
Even if that one is too new i bet they have one in there scrap heap that they can use to get the £2000 images/smilies/lol.gif

flydiscovery · May 26th, 2009, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iam-nobody

How old does a car have to be for them to clam the scrap allowance ?
Even if that one is too new i bet they have one in there scrap heap that they can use to get the £2000 images/smilies/lol.gif

Oh now THAT is excellent. They really seem to stockpile ALL the cheap cars they buy. They could have a considerable amount of cash if they turned them all in. Somehow, I don't think that's quite what the government had in mind with the program, but if they can find it legal, there are numerous plots pending. "Can TG use the scrap allowance to raise enough money for an Italian supercar?" The possibilities are endless.

iam-nobody · May 27th, 2009, 2:32 PM

I think you are only allowed to trade one car in at a time and you have to put the £2000 down on a car there and then.

Momo63 · May 27th, 2009, 5:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iam-nobody

How old does a car have to be for them to clam the scrap allowance ?
Even if that one is too new i bet they have one in there scrap heap that they can use to get the £2000 images/smilies/lol.gif

It has to be 10 years old and you have to use it right away - one car at a time

Speedtouch · May 27th, 2009, 6:17 PM

^ Plus you have to have to have owned the car for 12 months, it must be MOT'd and it must be 'a small car or van up to 3500kg'. So that rules out the vans and the boats... images/smilies/lol.gif

And the government only give you £1k - the other £1k is given by the manufacturers...

Dsemaj · June 9th, 2009, 10:14 AM

If anything, they'd get a completely different brand of car to keep it fresh.

May 16th, 2009, 11:47 PM	#1
DanteSS3 Joined: Aug 2nd, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	New Celebrity? I don't know if this is just a typo or foolhardy by the Top Gear Magazine lot, but in the back section with all the stats on cars and what not, there is a new entry for a Chevrolet Cruze (P172): "The replacement for the 'reasonably priced car'...." What do you think? Car does look pretty nice, but the pic is only small. __________________

May 17th, 2009, 1:28 AM	#2
skylock Not A Dude Joined: Jun 3rd, 2006 Last Online: 5:01 AM Location: USA Posts: 1,253 Car: Honda Civic Rep Power: 71	Well the board is getting filled up on the other car so they probably need one. __________________ Judy People were crashing cars long before Top Gear existed. James May

May 17th, 2009, 1:51 PM	#3
Speedtouch Joined: Jul 30th, 2006 Last Online: 12:47 AM Location: Kent, England Age: 17 Posts: 4,081 Car: '99 Kangoo 1.4 (Parents) Rep Power: 85	I had a look last night and understand it. It is simply saying that the Cruze is the car which is replacing the Lacetti in the Chevrolet line up, and it is replacing the 'reasonably priced car' in the sense that it is the new one to buy. I could be wrong and they have actually got a new one, but I doubt that. __________________ ^My Flickr^

May 18th, 2009, 4:20 AM	#5
shellygrrl Not A Dude Joined: Nov 29th, 2008 Last Online: 4:38 AM Location: Maine Posts: 1,005 Rep Power: 71	Yeah; the Liana was the RPC was for the first seven series (2002-05); and it was retained for the F1 guests. The Lacetti (2006-present) has yet to match it. Personally, I think they should keep the Lacetti for these next two seasons, then introduce a new RPC next year (Series 15). __________________ "Unlike James May, I will only run on television." ~ Jeremy Clarkson "This is where we'll see the advantage of the optional sport pack." ~ James May "Oversteer is best, because you don't see the tree that kills you." ~ Richard Hammond "James is NOT gorgeous. He’s hairy, churlish and has curious personal habits." ~ Oz Clarke

May 20th, 2009, 4:57 AM	#8
shellygrrl Not A Dude Joined: Nov 29th, 2008 Last Online: 4:38 AM Location: Maine Posts: 1,005 Rep Power: 71	A little more than 65 drove the Liana, actually. Remember it was retained for F1 guests. * Stig gave it a send-off lap in 8x02. * Jenson Button in 8x08. * Lewis Hamilton in 10x08. Also... * The S1 total for the Liana is ten. (Jeremy also took it around the track, to get a time on the SIARPC board. I'm not sure if this aired or not, but I'm noting it nonetheless.) * The S6 total for the Liana is twelve. (In 6x10, F1 driver Mark Webber took it for a lap as well as Davina McCall; the SIARPC segment for 6x06 (Question Time's David Dimbleby) was not aired in the US or Canada). * The S10 total for the Lacetti is nine (see note on Lewis Hamilton above). Overall... Suzuki Liana S1: 10 (incl. Jeremy) S2: 10 S3: 9 S4: 10 S5: 11 (incl. Blind Man) S6: 12 S7: 6 S8: 2 S10: 1 TOTAL: 71 Chevrolet Lacetti S8: 15 S9: 5 S10: 9 S11: 11 S12: 7 TOTAL: 47 __________________ "Unlike James May, I will only run on television." ~ Jeremy Clarkson "This is where we'll see the advantage of the optional sport pack." ~ James May "Oversteer is best, because you don't see the tree that kills you." ~ Richard Hammond "James is NOT gorgeous. He’s hairy, churlish and has curious personal habits." ~ Oz Clarke

May 18th, 2009, 4:37 AM	#6
flydiscovery Joined: Jan 24th, 2009 Last Online: 6:19 AM Location: US Posts: 2,010 Car: 02 Passat Rep Power: 86	Well also keep in mind they were running two stars at a time for a while there. The only real reason I see is if the Lacetti is being cut from manufacturing it will slowly become more difficult to get the vast amount of parts they seem to go through.

May 19th, 2009, 4:33 AM	#7
warren Joined: Jul 7th, 2008 Last Online: 4:47 AM Location: Windsor, Ontario and Ann Arbor, Michigan Posts: 193 Car: 2010 Audi A3 Rep Power: 13	Here's the break-down of how many people drove a lap: Series 1: 9 Series 2: 10 Series 3: 9 Series 4: 10 Series 5: 11 (including the blind man) Series 6: 10 Series 7: 6 That's 65. Series 8: 15 (7 on the first episode) Series 9: 5 Series 10: 10 Series 11: 11 Series 12: 7 That's 48. Assuming they have 14 guests this year, they still wouldn't have sent as many people around in the Lacetti as in the Liana.

May 26th, 2009, 6:54 AM	#11
shellygrrl Not A Dude Joined: Nov 29th, 2008 Last Online: 4:38 AM Location: Maine Posts: 1,005 Rep Power: 71	I'm taking into account how many have driven each car as of the end of S12 and have posted a time on either the celeb board or the F1 board. To date, 71 have driven the Liana (yes, 65 if you don't count the F1 drivers or Stig), 46* in the Lacetti. Presuming there is one SIARPC every episode in the next two series, and none of those guests are F1 drivers, and also presuming there isn't a road trip special (a la the US fly-drive (9x03), Botswana or Vietnam) which would preempt the segment entirely, the total number of drivers for the Lacetti, after Series 14, will be 60--just five shy of the Liana's final total, discounting the F1 drivers and Stig. (Taking F1+Stig into account, the total would be eleven shy, of course.) * I miscounted the total in the Lacetti for S8. It's fourteen (seven in 8x01 to get the new board started; the other seven in each of the following episodes, obviously not counting Jenson Button (F1 board, Liana)), not fifteen. __________________ "Unlike James May, I will only run on television." ~ Jeremy Clarkson "This is where we'll see the advantage of the optional sport pack." ~ James May "Oversteer is best, because you don't see the tree that kills you." ~ Richard Hammond "James is NOT gorgeous. He’s hairy, churlish and has curious personal habits." ~ Oz Clarke

May 26th, 2009, 5:26 PM	#12
Alasondro Alegré Joined: Nov 23rd, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portugal Posts: 1,283 Rep Power: 99	I think it would make sense to keep the Lacetti until the end of this year, and maybe come back with a new one next year. __________________ I have a recurring dream in which Jeremy is on fire and I have the fire extinguisher but can't get the pin out. James May

May 26th, 2009, 5:31 PM	#13
Cobol74 Joined: Mar 21st, 2006 Last Online: 2:16 AM Location: Southampton Posts: 8,441 Car: Vauxhall Zafira 1.9 TDI Slush box. Rep Power: 117	One point - Budget cuts, can they afford a new one, no matter how reasonably priced it is? __________________ Lotus 7 Registration Mark = KAR120C : Engine Number = 461034 TZ Ross Brawn genius or what?

May 26th, 2009, 6:03 PM	#14
pepitko Joined: Jan 22nd, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Prague, CZ Age: 23 Posts: 618 Car: diesel Skoda & Peugeot scooter Rep Power: 21	they should do another asian/reasonably priced car challenge to find the replacement (like that did with Lacetti), doesn't necessarily have to be a Chevrolet.. __________________ "I don’t really want a Lamborghini Gallardo. But I don’t want to live in a world where it doesn’t exist." - Jeremy Clarkson

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iam-nobody Not A Dude Joined: Jul 29th, 2008 Last Online: 12:12 AM Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 452 Rep Power: 15	I think you are only allowed to trade one car in at a time and you have to put the £2000 down on a car there and then.

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Speedtouch Joined: Jul 30th, 2006 Last Online: 12:47 AM Location: Kent, England Age: 17 Posts: 4,081 Car: '99 Kangoo 1.4 (Parents) Rep Power: 85	^ Plus you have to have to have owned the car for 12 months, it must be MOT'd and it must be 'a small car or van up to 3500kg'. So that rules out the vans and the boats... And the government only give you £1k - the other £1k is given by the manufacturers... __________________ ^My Flickr^ Last edited by Speedtouch; May 27th, 2009 at 6:18 PM.

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