A little history of our two favorite motor shows...5thG/TG

justin syder · August 16th, 2004, 4:15 AM

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See also:

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear#History
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Gear

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I have been doing some research on finding out the episode content to make my 5th Gear list and I've learned a few things regarding the history of both shows.

So for anyone that would find this usefull or didnt know anything about the two shows other than Tiff and Clarkson, well, here it is. images/smilies/smile.gif

**BTW, this is based on what I know and my findings so I might not include EVERYTHING but it will be pretty factual. Feel free to challenge my info or add anything you think i left out.

Top Gear started on BBC in 1978. Clarkson was a presenter since the 1989 and would be joined with Tiff Needell, former F1 driver, who was a presenter from 1987-2001. The show reaches great success during the early 90's. Clarkson and Tiff are entertaining and informative while presenting cars while also have creating a growing fan base for the BBC program. Then something happened and Clarkson's ego grew faster than the popularity of the show. He released VHS tapes which were ok or mediocre at best. He apparently thought he was good or better than BBC's Top Gear. He parted from the Show in the late 90's, 1998 or 1999. He went to do mini series of diff programs along with more vhs and dvd releases. Clarkson even had a short lived talk show.

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Originally Posted by NeuroVic

From what I've read, Renault or Peugeot or Citreon or one of those French companies didn't take too kindly to one of JC's reviews. I think to the point where the BBC actually issued an apology for it. JC left the show afterwards and it became about as innocuous as 5th Gear is right now.

BBC stopped the Show in 2001 and then 5th Gear was created. Channel 5 took the same cast of the Top Gear program and began a new series called 5th Gear. It started in April 2002 and BBC saw a competitor and decided to bring back the Top Gear program. In fall 2002 while 5th Gear was entering its second series Top Gear started with a new crew, new studio, a test track and the Stig. Though they dont directly compete the two shows kinda compete for UK's number one automotive show.

5th Gear will enter its 6th series this fall of 2004 and Top Gear will enter its 5th series. Both shows have lead presenters Tiff Needell and Jeremy Clarkson formerly side by side during Top Gear's run in the 90's.

gumshuu008 · August 16th, 2004, 4:28 AM

Interesting and informative images/smilies/ohmy.gif

Thanks

Dark_Templer_102 · August 16th, 2004, 4:57 AM

i'm just wondering..are Jeremy and Tiff like enemies now or they are sortaish friends or what?

justin syder · August 16th, 2004, 4:59 AM

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sortaish friends

i dont think they hate each other but im not too sure they are really close.

Dark_Templer_102 · August 16th, 2004, 5:01 AM

that was a fast reply 0_o

i do wish they would race each other..that would be something!

Renesis · August 16th, 2004, 5:05 AM

not really.. it wouldn't last long before Jeremy would be out of sight images/smilies/lol.gif

p0w3r · August 16th, 2004, 5:24 AM

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Originally Posted by justin syder

Then something happened and Clarkson's ego grew faster than the popularity of the show. He released VHS tapes which were ok or mediocre at best. He apparently thought he was good or better than BBC's Top Gear. He parted from the Show in the late 90's, 1998 or 1999. He went to do mini series of diff programs along with more vhs and dvd releases. Clarkson even had a short lived talk show.

hmmm that sounds just like him...must be correct images/smilies/lol.gif

Thanks for clearing it up, i have always been wondering about the two shows.

haha604 · August 16th, 2004, 6:09 AM

Good job Justin images/smilies/biggrin.gif

. I think a lot of memebers will find this informative.

haz · August 16th, 2004, 12:05 PM

repost justin

haz

Renesis · August 16th, 2004, 4:25 PM

? this is a repost???

justin syder · August 16th, 2004, 8:57 PM

i never posted this before, where has this been posted haz?

NeuroVic · August 16th, 2004, 9:44 PM

From what I've read, Renault or Peugeot or Citreon or one of those French companies didn't take too kindly to one of JC's reviews. I think to the point where the BBC actually issued an apology for it. JC left the show afterwards and it became about as innocuous as 5th Gear is right now.

justin syder · August 16th, 2004, 10:06 PM

very good i didnt know that.

ill update the history with that, thanks.

NeuroVic · August 16th, 2004, 10:32 PM

Ah went hunting around for where I read it.

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/?news_id=343

Twas a Vauxhall Vectra... french, english whatever images/smilies/smile.gif

. Fiat's french right?

Renesis · August 16th, 2004, 10:52 PM

Fiat is italian (sister company to Ferrari)

NeuroVic · August 16th, 2004, 11:02 PM

Dammit.. I knew I forgot the smiley. Just a lame reference that that goober in the roadster episode who said the Fiat Barchetta wasn't cool because it was french images/smilies/ohmy.gif

.

Renesis · August 16th, 2004, 11:42 PM

yeah what a dumbnuts

therem3dy · August 23rd, 2004, 6:14 PM

Tiff was never a formula 1 driver. He drove LeMans style cars, IMSA, and similar GT / Touring cars, but never an open wheel F1 racer (from everything I've read about him).

SPG900 · August 23rd, 2004, 6:54 PM

Wrong, he did drive F1:

04-05-1980 : Zolder - retired (engine)
18-05-1980 : Monaco - DNQ

Team: Ensign

haz · August 23rd, 2004, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by justin syder

i never posted this before, where has this been posted haz?

I posted the exact same text on the programs some time ago..no biggie..

haz

August 16th, 2004, 4:28 AM	#2
gumshuu008 Joined: Jul 13th, 2004 Last Online: June 21st, 2009 Location: Down Under - Melbourne - Australia Posts: 221 Rep Power: 0	Interesting and informative Thanks __________________ shhhhh.....I think someone's watching 8)

August 16th, 2004, 4:57 AM	#3
Dark_Templer_102 Joined: Jul 17th, 2004 Last Online: 4:14 AM Location: Alpharetta, Georgia. U.S.A Posts: 1,677 Car: Subaru Legacy GT Rep Power: 0	i'm just wondering..are Jeremy and Tiff like enemies now or they are sortaish friends or what? __________________

August 16th, 2004, 5:01 AM	#5
Dark_Templer_102 Joined: Jul 17th, 2004 Last Online: 4:14 AM Location: Alpharetta, Georgia. U.S.A Posts: 1,677 Car: Subaru Legacy GT Rep Power: 0	that was a fast reply 0_o i do wish they would race each other..that would be something! __________________

August 16th, 2004, 6:09 AM	#8
haha604 Joined: Dec 28th, 2003 Last Online: February 13th, 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,051 Rep Power: 25	Good job Justin . I think a lot of memebers will find this informative.

August 16th, 2004, 12:05 PM	#9
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Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 9,669 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	? this is a repost???

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justin syder Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: August 18th, 2009 Location: New York, USA Age: 28 Posts: 4,098 Car: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300E Rep Power: 34	i never posted this before, where has this been posted haz? __________________ "I’ll sock you in the goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered!" -William F. Buckley Jr. Ich Fahre Deutschen, Ich Fahre Mercedes-Benz.

August 16th, 2004, 9:44 PM	#12
NeuroVic Joined: Aug 3rd, 2004 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Posts: 73 Rep Power: 0	From what I've read, Renault or Peugeot or Citreon or one of those French companies didn't take too kindly to one of JC's reviews. I think to the point where the BBC actually issued an apology for it. JC left the show afterwards and it became about as innocuous as 5th Gear is right now.

August 16th, 2004, 10:06 PM	#13
justin syder Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: August 18th, 2009 Location: New York, USA Age: 28 Posts: 4,098 Car: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300E Rep Power: 34	very good i didnt know that. ill update the history with that, thanks. __________________ "I’ll sock you in the goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered!" -William F. Buckley Jr. Ich Fahre Deutschen, Ich Fahre Mercedes-Benz.

August 16th, 2004, 10:32 PM	#14
NeuroVic Joined: Aug 3rd, 2004 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Posts: 73 Rep Power: 0	Ah went hunting around for where I read it. http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/?news_id=343 Twas a Vauxhall Vectra... french, english whatever . Fiat's french right?

August 16th, 2004, 10:52 PM	#15
Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 9,669 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	Fiat is italian (sister company to Ferrari)

August 16th, 2004, 11:02 PM	#16
NeuroVic Joined: Aug 3rd, 2004 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Posts: 73 Rep Power: 0	Dammit.. I knew I forgot the smiley. Just a lame reference that that goober in the roadster episode who said the Fiat Barchetta wasn't cool because it was french .

August 16th, 2004, 11:42 PM	#17
Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 9,669 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	yeah what a dumbnuts

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therem3dy Joined: Jan 25th, 2004 Last Online: April 24th, 2008 Posts: 51 Rep Power: 24	Tiff was never a formula 1 driver. He drove LeMans style cars, IMSA, and similar GT / Touring cars, but never an open wheel F1 racer (from everything I've read about him).

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SPG900 Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Last Online: November 17th, 2009 Location: België Posts: 567 Rep Power: 0	Wrong, he did drive F1: 04-05-1980 : Zolder - retired (engine) 18-05-1980 : Monaco - DNQ Team: Ensign

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