Bugatti Veyron vs Porsche 917

backsplash · July 5th, 2009, 3:37 PM

Watching the Bugatti Veyron versus the Mclaren F1 was exhilarating awesome, but this got me thinking. what will happen if the top gear guys staged a race between the Bugatti Veyron again but this time with the leman racer from 1970 - the mighty Porsche 917, the one steve mcqueen drove. that would be interesting, i mean both cars go to 62mph in 2.5 secs and both cars can do over 250mph! what do you guys think? images/smilies/mellow.gif

vikiradTG2007 · July 5th, 2009, 4:00 PM

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Originally Posted by backsplash

Watching the Bugatti Veyron versus the Mclaren F1 was exhilarating awesome, but this got me thinking. what will happen if the top gear guys staged a race between the Bugatti Veyron again but this time with the leman racer from 1970 - the mighty Porsche 917, the one steve mcqueen drove. that would be interesting, i mean both cars go to 62mph in 2.5 secs and both cars can do over 250mph! what do you guys think? images/smilies/mellow.gif

First of all, to clear some confusion: the 250+mph 2.5 sec to 62 917 wasn't the 917K from the movie, it was the turbocharged CanAm 917/30. If you want to compare the Veyron to the 917K (which could only do 210), the Veyron would win hands-down at the top end, and even if you substitute the 917K for a long-tail one (which could do 230, at best), it would get annihilated at the highest possible speeds.

P.S. The 917 that raced at Le Mans never had more then 600-650 bhp.

Nikodemus · July 5th, 2009, 4:16 PM

I don't think race car vs. Bugatti Veyron would be a fair race. There are plenty of race cars that are faster in almost any kind of race than the Veyron. Especially drag race. I remember some Jaguar actually topping 400 kph in Le Mans qualifying. When Mulsanne Straight was still straight.

Kiskaloo · July 6th, 2009, 12:27 AM

A Porsche 962 Group C car might hold it's own...

Mineworksfine · July 6th, 2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiskaloo

A Porsche 962 Group C car might hold it's own...

I'm holding my own.

This is NSFW right?

No?

images/smilies/blush.gif

starfox07 · July 6th, 2009, 3:43 AM

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Originally Posted by vikiradTG2007

First of all, to clear some confusion: the 250+mph 2.5 sec to 62 917 wasn't the 917K from the movie, it was the turbocharged CanAm 917/30. If you want to compare the Veyron to the 917K (which could only do 210), the Veyron would win hands-down at the top end, and even if you substitute the 917K for a long-tail one (which could do 230, at best), it would get annihilated at the highest possible speeds.

P.S. The 917 that raced at Le Mans never had more then 600-650 bhp.

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http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/4...he-917-30.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_917

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The 917/30 could go from 0-62 mph (100 km/h) in 1.9 seconds, 0-100 mph (160 km/h) in 3.9 seconds, 0-200 mph (320 km/h) in 10.9 seconds, and on to a top speed of 260 mph (420 km/h) +

Now that's in qualifying trim with most likely no wastegate springs, but run what you brung.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron

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The Veyron reaches 200 km/h (124.3 mph) and 300 km/h (186.4 mph) in 7.3 and 16.8 seconds respectively according to Bugatti. According to the February 2007 issue of Road & Track magazine, the Veyron accomplished the quarter mile (~400 m) in 10.2 seconds at an exit speed of 143.6 mph (231.1 km/h). In other tests, however, the car has hit 150 mph in under 10 seconds (see below), so its quarter-mile time is faster.

The Veyron would be demolished. Somewhere between 7-10 seconds slower to 200mph. That is enormous.

hansvonaxion · July 6th, 2009, 6:15 AM

But you would need to put road tyres on the Porsche.

Death and hilarity ensue.

backsplash · July 6th, 2009, 8:25 AM

YES!!! i know someone outhere will bring out about the 962... gosh whatagreatcar!

backsplash · July 6th, 2009, 8:27 AM

They did put road tyre on the porsche 917 and 962...

vikiradTG2007 · July 6th, 2009, 8:58 AM

The only Group C cars that would stand a chance in terms of top speed against the Veyron would be the Sauber C9 and the WM-Peugeot P87. Those were the only cars that ever cracked 400kph on the Mulsanne.

(The fastest Jaguar XJR-* ever was timed at 389kph)

Polly · July 6th, 2009, 12:25 PM

*groans*

eizbaer · July 6th, 2009, 5:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Polly

*groans*

oh yah, oooh yeah...

WeirdKerr · July 6th, 2009, 7:48 PM

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Originally Posted by backsplash

They did put road tyre on the porsche 917 and 962...

Wasn't there a road going version of the 962 by a company called Dauer or something?

oh yes found it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dauer_962_Le_Mans

backsplash · July 7th, 2009, 1:17 AM

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Originally Posted by WeirdKerr

Wasn't there a road going version of the 962 by a company called Dauer or something?

oh yes found it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dauer_962_Le_Mans

Yeah, they did and most of them was bought by the sultan of brunei because no one wants to buy it back then.

JleeLink · July 8th, 2009, 8:56 AM

I think a more fitting comparison would be the Porsche 9ff GT9 or the GT9-R

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_9FF_GT9

Magnet · July 8th, 2009, 9:33 AM

What if it raced against a rocket propelled German Shepherd? That would be epic!

dj.TAKA · July 8th, 2009, 12:03 PM

That Porsche 917/30 sounds incrediable. 1900hp/ton images/smilies/blink.gif

lagunengrune36 · July 8th, 2009, 9:14 PM

A race between the Veyron, F1, and Ultimate Aero is what I wanna see. images/smilies/tongue.gif

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backsplash Joined: Aug 4th, 2008 Last Online: November 4th, 2009 Location: Sengkurong/Brunei Posts: 13 Car: Golf R32 Rep Power: 0	Bugatti Veyron vs Porsche 917 Watching the Bugatti Veyron versus the Mclaren F1 was exhilarating awesome, but this got me thinking. what will happen if the top gear guys staged a race between the Bugatti Veyron again but this time with the leman racer from 1970 - the mighty Porsche 917, the one steve mcqueen drove. that would be interesting, i mean both cars go to 62mph in 2.5 secs and both cars can do over 250mph! what do you guys think?

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vikiradTG2007 Joined: Feb 8th, 2007 Last Online: 7:50 PM Location: Cluj-Napoca, Romania Age: 18 Posts: 6,604 Car: Ford Focus MkI 1.8D Rep Power: 98	The only Group C cars that would stand a chance in terms of top speed against the Veyron would be the Sauber C9 and the WM-Peugeot P87. Those were the only cars that ever cracked 400kph on the Mulsanne. (The fastest Jaguar XJR-* ever was timed at 389kph) __________________ "There's no damage to the car, except to the car itself." (Murray Walker, 1991 British GP) 1980s-1990s F1, Group C and Supertouring nostalgic. And I'm proud of that.

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Nikodemus Joined: Jan 31st, 2008 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: HEL Posts: 109 Rep Power: 9	I don't think race car vs. Bugatti Veyron would be a fair race. There are plenty of race cars that are faster in almost any kind of race than the Veyron. Especially drag race. I remember some Jaguar actually topping 400 kph in Le Mans qualifying. When Mulsanne Straight was still straight.

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backsplash Joined: Aug 4th, 2008 Last Online: November 4th, 2009 Location: Sengkurong/Brunei Posts: 13 Car: Golf R32 Rep Power: 0	They did put road tyre on the porsche 917 and 962...

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JleeLink Joined: Jun 5th, 2008 Last Online: 7:11 PM Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 18 Posts: 76 Car: BMW M3 E92 - I wish.... Rep Power: 6	I think a more fitting comparison would be the Porsche 9ff GT9 or the GT9-R http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_9FF_GT9

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