Is anyone getting sick of the 'MTV-style' filming for the car films?

edkwon · July 7th, 2008, 4:11 AM

I really think TG's car review (either on the roads or the TG track) really peaked with series 6 and 7 with some smoked filter work, but otherwise really clean filming, with some fantastic hi speed slo-mo segments and etc.

For reference i bring you a few examples

The Lotus Exige S review from series 7 or 8

+ YouTube Video

Ferrari 575 GTC pack vs Vanquish S

+ YouTube Video

TVR Tuscan 2 vs Weismann MF3 film

+ YouTube Video

anyways you get the idea, and since series 10 at least, and getting worse in series 11, all these annoying 'music video' style filters, grain, black n white. It's like they took some good car footage and ran them thru every photoshop filter they could find.

The recent Scuderia review

+ YouTube Video

The new Bentley Brooklands review

+ YouTube Video

Ferrari 599 GTB review

+ YouTube Video

This might reflect a generation gap among forum members as the younger ones will probably really like this new filming style and the older ones will like it less. Now there are many good films as well in the recent series, but some of the ones above i felt were just ruined by the filming style, mainly because i couldn't get a good detailed look at the cars in action because of shaky camera style and weird digital filters.

smib · July 7th, 2008, 4:16 AM

I'm 21 and it bugs the shit out of me. I was ok once or twice, but I really don't like it.

Ottobon · July 7th, 2008, 4:23 AM

It does seem like the new videos someone is trying too hard to make it interesting, or atleast like it was made to be viewed while drunk.

Personally my biggest complaint is still that the music, and or the use of the music could be better. Its much more fun to watch when the music completely matches the rest of the scene and script, otherwise it just all turns to shit no-matter how good the video-editing is.

For example, in the wiessman video, when it starts out all sober and poetic and with dramatic orchestra stuff building tension and then switches to Jeremy shouting "saucy" (or whatever) with techno/dance in the backround it just sort of makes my whole day 100x brighter. They also let the cars engine speak for itself, instead of adding stupid sound effects (not really a problem recently, but has been in past)

LurkerPatrol · July 7th, 2008, 4:24 AM

I like them both, and they should really make a nice balance between using awesome filters and slow motion effects and classic stuff versus the MTV/contemporary style.

biglandfarm · July 7th, 2008, 5:34 AM

no i think it kicks ass

Cold Fussion · July 7th, 2008, 5:38 AM

The post processing is very well done and its needed because the footage that comes out the camera is very bland and unexciting. (look at the out takes, the overcast days look awful).

Zuhaib · July 7th, 2008, 5:45 AM

I was not a big fan of the way they filmed the 430 Scuderia, but the last Bentley one I thought was very good. Actually I will go as so far and say its one of the best review in terms of cinematography. I thought the way it was setup in "two" parts, the slower, more laid back part at the first part and they the mad dash and quick cut in the 2nd. I would not get hanged up on the whole "MTV" style anyways, as its not something new. They have always been using quick edits for a while. First to my head is the Lotus review with the Apache.

I think the mix is good, and, if they kept on doing the same stuff season after season things would get old quick.

cameraman288 · July 7th, 2008, 6:28 AM

stick yourself out in a field with an expensive camera and several people telling you what to do.

now, do you think you shoot anything anywhere near as interesting and eye catching as that? probably not.

i like that style of videography, and the filters make it look way better.

Metal Gear · July 7th, 2008, 7:26 AM

They've been using the style for 11 seasons already. Why pick on it now? Probability will definitely say that there will be a few overdone ones and there's always bound to have one that you won't like. Then again I don't think that you can see this style of video in most car shows.

I personally like the artsy visual style. Fits the subject. images/smilies/smile.gif

chimi · July 7th, 2008, 7:51 AM

They are just overdoing it with the filters and shaky cameras and all that crap, people normally use that stuff to make a dull video or movie look interesting, but with something like top gear you really don't need it.

It is great to some some artsy side to the show but for me it is just a little over the top, they should remember the show is made for simple petrolheads

Frederic · July 7th, 2008, 8:36 AM

If you don't like it -> don't watch it
if the filming style bothers you -> don't watch it

why does everyone feel the need to piss on everything TG does lately?

Holiace · July 7th, 2008, 9:51 AM

The Ferrari 599 is interesting when it stands by the side of the road, it doesn't need all that fancy filming.

However, I like their reviews and I don't mind the filming that much. I guess they could tone it down a bit and "grow up" a little or whatever you'd like to call it.

Derek · July 7th, 2008, 9:57 AM

I thought I was the only one noticing this. And I agree totally with you. It gets tiresome to watch mainly because there usually isn't one clear shot of the car where you can admire it in its entirety. For longer than 1 millisecond anyway.

Aston Martin · July 7th, 2008, 11:20 AM

Aren't you people ever fucking happy?

"Oh my god whens TG back?" "Without TG I will die" "6 seconds until new TG"

Then as soon as it's back, a majority of you bitch and whine about the most trivial things.

Karoug · July 7th, 2008, 11:21 AM

I'm not sick of it. But it could be less annoying...

anti-net · July 7th, 2008, 11:30 AM

I'm not really sick of it, but I do agree that stuff like the Lotus Elise review and the "British" sportscar review were some of the best TG reviews. I also really liked the stuff on 10x01 when they were looking for the best driving roads in Europe.

mclarensmps · July 7th, 2008, 11:33 AM

Q: Is anyone getting sick of the 'MTV-style' filming for the car films?

A: No

stevanford1 · July 7th, 2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aston Martin

Aren't you people ever fucking happy?

"Oh my god whens TG back?" "Without TG I will die" "6 seconds until new TG"

Then as soon as it's back, a majority of you bitch and whine about the most trivial things.

+1000000. Whinging about cinematography. images/smilies/lol.gif

Frederic · July 7th, 2008, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aston Martin

Aren't you people ever fucking happy?

"Oh my god whens TG back?" "Without TG I will die" "6 seconds until new TG"

Then as soon as it's back, a majority of you bitch and whine about the most trivial things.

Amen to that!

IceBone · July 7th, 2008, 11:59 AM

Yes, stop with the shaky cam. I like the new wide lens they have, without the fisheye effect, but all the grainy filters, the 3 fps black and white shot in the brooklands, the unbeleivable shaky cam they started using are all too much. If they removed those, and kept the editing as it was, the reviews would be miles better.

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Ottobon Banned Joined: Nov 27th, 2005 Last Online: May 27th, 2009 Location: Detriot Metro Area Posts: 3,313 Car: 2 Rust buckets and a confused 1999 American. Rep Power: 0	It does seem like the new videos someone is trying too hard to make it interesting, or atleast like it was made to be viewed while drunk. Personally my biggest complaint is still that the music, and or the use of the music could be better. Its much more fun to watch when the music completely matches the rest of the scene and script, otherwise it just all turns to shit no-matter how good the video-editing is. For example, in the wiessman video, when it starts out all sober and poetic and with dramatic orchestra stuff building tension and then switches to Jeremy shouting "saucy" (or whatever) with techno/dance in the backround it just sort of makes my whole day 100x brighter. They also let the cars engine speak for itself, instead of adding stupid sound effects (not really a problem recently, but has been in past) Last edited by Ottobon; July 7th, 2008 at 4:40 AM.

July 7th, 2008, 4:24 AM	#4
LurkerPatrol Come see me eat nipples.. Joined: Apr 24th, 2006 Last Online: 2:07 AM Location: San Diego, California Age: 22 Posts: 2,167 Car: ?rac tahW Rep Power: 235	I like them both, and they should really make a nice balance between using awesome filters and slow motion effects and classic stuff versus the MTV/contemporary style. __________________ Warning: Age of poster not necessarily an indicator of maturity level. Differentiate twice before breakfast - my professor

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Zuhaib Joined: Dec 11th, 2003 Last Online: 12:53 AM Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 769 Car: 07 VW GTI, 06 S500, 05 HD Softail Rep Power: 39	I was not a big fan of the way they filmed the 430 Scuderia, but the last Bentley one I thought was very good. Actually I will go as so far and say its one of the best review in terms of cinematography. I thought the way it was setup in "two" parts, the slower, more laid back part at the first part and they the mad dash and quick cut in the 2nd. I would not get hanged up on the whole "MTV" style anyways, as its not something new. They have always been using quick edits for a while. First to my head is the Lotus review with the Apache. I think the mix is good, and, if they kept on doing the same stuff season after season things would get old quick. __________________ I am Pakistani And No! I do not own a 7/11! And my NAME is not Apu! "MPG describes riding like biology describes Sex" -- Harley Davidson Ad Zuhaib's Blog

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chimi Joined: Jan 30th, 2007 Last Online: November 6th, 2009 Location: Tepic, Nayarit Mexico Age: 23 Posts: 145 Car: Old Car:Jeep Wrangler Rep Power: 12	They are just overdoing it with the filters and shaky cameras and all that crap, people normally use that stuff to make a dull video or movie look interesting, but with something like top gear you really don't need it. It is great to some some artsy side to the show but for me it is just a little over the top, they should remember the show is made for simple petrolheads __________________ "Think about the celebration of failure in The Simpsons, because Top Gear is not just about cars, it's also about celebrating that massive Black Hole of Pointlessness that is the male mind." - Andy Wilman

July 7th, 2008, 5:34 AM	#5
biglandfarm Banned Joined: Jun 25th, 2008 Last Online: January 1st, 2009 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	no i think it kicks ass

July 7th, 2008, 5:38 AM	#6
Cold Fussion Joined: Dec 19th, 2007 Last Online: 5:15 AM Location: A small island off the coast of New Zealand Age: 17 Posts: 799 Car: 1988 Ford Laser Ghia Rep Power: 19	The post processing is very well done and its needed because the footage that comes out the camera is very bland and unexciting. (look at the out takes, the overcast days look awful).

July 7th, 2008, 6:28 AM	#8
cameraman288 Joined: Jun 9th, 2008 Last Online: October 25th, 2009 Location: houston texas Posts: 35 Car: you dont wanna know Rep Power: 0	stick yourself out in a field with an expensive camera and several people telling you what to do. now, do you think you shoot anything anywhere near as interesting and eye catching as that? probably not. i like that style of videography, and the filters make it look way better.

July 7th, 2008, 7:26 AM	#9
Metal Gear Joined: Jun 23rd, 2008 Last Online: July 7th, 2008 Location: Hell's Island Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	They've been using the style for 11 seasons already. Why pick on it now? Probability will definitely say that there will be a few overdone ones and there's always bound to have one that you won't like. Then again I don't think that you can see this style of video in most car shows. I personally like the artsy visual style. Fits the subject.

July 7th, 2008, 8:36 AM	#11
Frederic Joined: Nov 2nd, 2006 Last Online: October 17th, 2009 Location: Belgium (Limburg) Posts: 287 Rep Power: 14	If you don't like it -> don't watch it if the filming style bothers you -> don't watch it why does everyone feel the need to piss on everything TG does lately?

July 7th, 2008, 9:51 AM	#12
Holiace Joined: Aug 29th, 2007 Last Online: September 30th, 2009 Location: Sweden Age: 19 Posts: 223 Car: 1988 Saab 900 T8 Turbo (8-valve). Rep Power: 10	The Ferrari 599 is interesting when it stands by the side of the road, it doesn't need all that fancy filming. However, I like their reviews and I don't mind the filming that much. I guess they could tone it down a bit and "grow up" a little or whatever you'd like to call it. __________________ Always Ambitious, sometimes rubbish.

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Derek Is Über Joined: Dec 7th, 2004 Last Online: 12:48 AM Location: United Netherlands + Rapepublic of Belgium Age: 20 Posts: 1,296 Car: Ain't got no Rep Power: 123	I thought I was the only one noticing this. And I agree totally with you. It gets tiresome to watch mainly because there usually isn't one clear shot of the car where you can admire it in its entirety. For longer than 1 millisecond anyway. __________________ "You're the biggest asshole I know. And that says a lot." - Ice

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Aston Martin Wirelees noob Joined: Sep 20th, 2006 Last Online: 5:57 AM Location: Hull, England Posts: 2,236 Rep Power: 68	Aren't you people ever fucking happy? "Oh my god whens TG back?" "Without TG I will die" "6 seconds until new TG" Then as soon as it's back, a majority of you bitch and whine about the most trivial things. __________________ "The last really fast car I drove was Ferrari’s 599 GTB Fiorano. Hardly a slouch, the 599 reaches 62mph in 3.7 seconds and 124mph in 11 seconds. But drive the Ferrari 599 past a stationary Veyron at 62mph during its 11 second 124mph sprint and the Bugatti will catch up by the time the Italian reaches 124mph." "I wish it would be Gumball every day."

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IceBone Experienced Lover Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 4:18 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 25 Posts: 9,143 Car: 1997 Audi A4 1.8 Rep Power: 173	Yes, stop with the shaky cam. I like the new wide lens they have, without the fisheye effect, but all the grainy filters, the 3 fps black and white shot in the brooklands, the unbeleivable shaky cam they started using are all too much. If they removed those, and kept the editing as it was, the reviews would be miles better. __________________ Bridge to Gantry time: 11:07

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