JC on the 350Z - Page 2

mautzel · January 29th, 2006, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by zenkidori

google is your friend:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...82/ai_95614088

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4291105.stm

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tterion · February 24th, 2006, 7:26 AM

After some googling, I found this:

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"The Renault-Nissan alliance has brought us some great cars. What company do you think developed the 3.0-litre V6 engine found in the front of a Nissan 350Z?"

it looks like it was actually developed by renault...though i did read somewhere else that its basically the same engine with different cranks, conrod pistons and head design.

http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/car-reviews...0-1004931.html

Labcoatguy · February 24th, 2006, 1:19 PM

Wow, massive bump. And no, the Renault connection is non-existent. The Nissan 3.0 VQ engine came out in 1995, a full four years before Renault involvement in the company. Not to mention that the 350Z has a 3.5 L V6, derived from the non-Renault 3.0 V6. That article is really iffy on its fact-checking.

zenkidori · February 24th, 2006, 5:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Labcoatguy

Wow, massive bump. And no, the Renault connection is non-existent. The Nissan 3.0 VQ engine came out in 1995, a full four years before Renault involvement in the company. Not to mention that the 350Z has a 3.5 L V6, derived from the non-Renault 3.0 V6. That article is really iffy on its fact-checking.

You're thinking of the VG30DE(TT), not the VQ.

Labcoatguy · February 24th, 2006, 5:53 PM

Hm? The VG30DE and DETT came out with the Z32 300ZX in 1990. I'm pretty sure the VQ, in the US at least, came out in 1995 to replace the VG30E and VE30DE in the Maxima.

zenkidori · February 24th, 2006, 6:03 PM

Ah I stand corrected.

tterion · February 25th, 2006, 12:46 AM

so its a nissan engine afterall? somebody tell JC images/smilies/lol.gif

No Boss · February 25th, 2006, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tterion

so its a nissan engine afterall? somebody tell JC images/smilies/lol.gif

Good luck telling him, he's very stubborn.

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zenkidori · February 25th, 2006, 1:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tterion

so its a nissan engine afterall? somebody tell JC images/smilies/lol.gif

I don't think he really means it, it's just a way to make fun of the car. It's not a "Datsun" either, but he calls it that.

Carsightings · February 25th, 2006, 8:37 AM

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Originally Posted by zenkidori

Quote:

Originally Posted by tterion

so its a nissan engine afterall? somebody tell JC images/smilies/lol.gif

I don't think he really means it, it's just a way to make fun of the car. It's not a "Datsun" either, but he calls it that.

there are many mistakes on top gear like the the 4 door maserati is the fastet saloon in the world but the m5 or flying spur are the fastest.

whoster · February 25th, 2006, 9:30 AM

the M5 and the Flying Spur are BRAND spanking new.

the Quattroporte has been around a bit....when the Flying Spur and the M5 weren't around..the Maser was quite the naughty saloon car.

zenkidori · February 25th, 2006, 5:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Carsightings

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Originally Posted by zenkidori

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Originally Posted by tterion

so its a nissan engine afterall? somebody tell JC images/smilies/lol.gif

I don't think he really means it, it's just a way to make fun of the car. It's not a "Datsun" either, but he calls it that.

there are many mistakes on top gear like the the 4 door maserati is the fastet saloon in the world but the m5 or flying spur are the fastest.

Calling a Nissan a Datsun isn't really a mistake you can make. I still believe it was just a way to poke fun at the car and the Nissan-Renault alliance.

Z Draci · February 26th, 2006, 3:26 AM

Click here for a quick guide to NISSAN engines.

Basscadet · February 27th, 2006, 2:09 AM

VQ is a shitty ass truck engine.

no RB26DET, no care

zenkidori · February 27th, 2006, 3:16 AM

Oh wow, another gayDM fanboy. Next he'll be posting about Silvias and the "truck engine" KA. images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

Funny how the fanboy got his own engine code wrong, dumbass.

6MT · February 28th, 2006, 2:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Carsightings

there are many mistakes on top gear like the the 4 door maserati is the fastet saloon in the world but the m5 or flying spur are the fastest.

The Flying Spur wasn't available when he made that quote and the M5 is limited to 155 mph. So at that time he was correct.

Alex_0700 · February 28th, 2006, 2:54 AM

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Originally Posted by zenkidori

Oh wow, another gayDM fanboy. Next he'll be posting about Silvias and the "truck engine" KA. images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

Funny how the fanboy got his own engine code wrong, dumbass.

Way to shut him up zenkidori images/smilies/clap.gif

autostream · February 28th, 2006, 11:15 PM

He is correct! The engine in the 350Z in its current form was first used in the Vel-satis.
It may be based on a Nissan Design, but its constant evolution has changed it considerably. It was Renault money that transformed it into what it is today.
In fact, it was Renaults money which gave us the whole Infiniti lineup as we know it today. Before the French cash, Infiniti's were just nissans' with wooden dashboards.

As for calling it a Datsun. They are one in the same. It's like calling the Chevy Matiz a Daewoo. Hence the joke.
In fact, my mom stills calls it datsun.

Labcoatguy · February 28th, 2006, 11:24 PM

Despite my unstoppable Nissan fanboy tendencies (had a 1990 Maxima and loved it), I fear you're right, autostream. Specifically, the VQ35DE was first used in 2001 in the Vel Satis as well as the Nissan Pathfinder of the same year. So why doesn't JC call it a Renault with a Datsun engine?? (no, I'm not being serious)

February 25th, 2006, 9:30 AM	#31
whoster Joined: Jun 7th, 2005 Last Online: January 4th, 2010 Location: toyota city, CA Posts: 795 Car: Lexus GS400 Rep Power: 22	the M5 and the Flying Spur are BRAND spanking new. the Quattroporte has been around a bit....when the Flying Spur and the M5 weren't around..the Maser was quite the naughty saloon car. __________________ 1998 Lexus GS400 twit.

February 26th, 2006, 3:26 AM	#33
Z Draci Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: May 23rd, 2007 Location: Glendora/Riverside, CA Posts: 915 Rep Power: 0	Click here for a quick guide to NISSAN engines. __________________ *"The car is the closest thing we will ever create to something that is alive." - Sir William Lyons*

February 27th, 2006, 3:16 AM	#35
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	Oh wow, another gayDM fanboy. Next he'll be posting about Silvias and the "truck engine" KA. Funny how the fanboy got his own engine code wrong, dumbass.

February 28th, 2006, 11:15 PM	#38
autostream Joined: Apr 23rd, 2004 Last Online: March 1st, 2010 Posts: 107 Rep Power: 0	He is correct! The engine in the 350Z in its current form was first used in the Vel-satis. It may be based on a Nissan Design, but its constant evolution has changed it considerably. It was Renault money that transformed it into what it is today. In fact, it was Renaults money which gave us the whole Infiniti lineup as we know it today. Before the French cash, Infiniti's were just nissans' with wooden dashboards. As for calling it a Datsun. They are one in the same. It's like calling the Chevy Matiz a Daewoo. Hence the joke. In fact, my mom stills calls it datsun. __________________ AutostreamFilms.com

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February 24th, 2006, 1:19 PM	#23
Labcoatguy Joined: Mar 27th, 2005 Last Online: 9:09 PM Location: Boston, MA Age: 26 Posts: 5,026 Rep Power: 392	Wow, massive bump. And no, the Renault connection is non-existent. The Nissan 3.0 VQ engine came out in 1995, a full four years before Renault involvement in the company. Not to mention that the 350Z has a 3.5 L V6, derived from the non-Renault 3.0 V6. That article is really iffy on its fact-checking.

February 24th, 2006, 5:53 PM	#25
Labcoatguy Joined: Mar 27th, 2005 Last Online: 9:09 PM Location: Boston, MA Age: 26 Posts: 5,026 Rep Power: 392	Hm? The VG30DE and DETT came out with the Z32 300ZX in 1990. I'm pretty sure the VQ, in the US at least, came out in 1995 to replace the VG30E and VE30DE in the Maxima.

February 24th, 2006, 6:03 PM	#26
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	Ah I stand corrected.

February 25th, 2006, 12:46 AM	#27
tterion Joined: Feb 24th, 2006 Last Online: February 25th, 2006 Location: Malaysia Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	so its a nissan engine afterall? somebody tell JC

February 27th, 2006, 2:09 AM	#34
Basscadet Joined: Nov 10th, 2005 Last Online: July 23rd, 2009 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	VQ is a shitty ass truck engine. no RB26DET, no care

February 28th, 2006, 11:24 PM	#39
Labcoatguy Joined: Mar 27th, 2005 Last Online: 9:09 PM Location: Boston, MA Age: 26 Posts: 5,026 Rep Power: 392	Despite my unstoppable Nissan fanboy tendencies (had a 1990 Maxima and loved it), I fear you're right, autostream. Specifically, the VQ35DE was first used in 2001 in the Vel Satis as well as the Nissan Pathfinder of the same year. So why doesn't JC call it a Renault with a Datsun engine?? (no, I'm not being serious)

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