Maserati MC12 beats the Enzo time?

djdorifto · October 11th, 2005, 08:05 PM

umm, I'm seriously not up to date with the min news about top gear since i'm here in the states.. but I have seen all of the top gear episodes and have not seen a car they tested beat the Enzo's time...Then just now I checked the Stig's Laptimes and the Maserati MC12 has beat the Enzo time of 1.18.9... Anyone else seen this?

bartboy9891 · October 11th, 2005, 08:09 PM

Everyone has seen it! 8)
it beat it by .1 seconds. even though the Enzo is lighter, more powerful and smaller, and much much easier to handle. the MC12 is a road legal race car. this means that in the hands of a professional racing driver images/smilies/stig.gif

, it would be able to do a better lap around a fairly small track.

djdorifto · October 11th, 2005, 08:13 PM

what epsiode was this?

bartboy9891 · October 11th, 2005, 08:16 PM

may 29, 2005

Bander · October 11th, 2005, 08:35 PM

Stig is a very good tame racing driver.
He is unbeatable at TG testtrack.

bartboy9891 · October 11th, 2005, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bander

Stig is a very good tame racing driver.
He is unbeatable at TG testtrack.

i think he is getting faster too. thats the problem though, they'll have to redo some of the car's times with the new stig. for example the Zonda got 1:23 on the semi-wet-at-the-corners track.

vanMould · October 11th, 2005, 09:34 PM

I'd really like to know where the Koenigsegg CCR would make it now. It seems that alot has happened since they tested the CC8S.

Also, rumor sais that the CC8S time was staged, and that it actually is faster than the Zonda.

bartboy9891 · October 11th, 2005, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vanMould

I'd really like to know where the Koenigsegg CCR would make it now. It seems that alot has happened since they tested the CC8S.

Also, rumor sais that the CC8S time was staged, and that it actually is faster than the Zonda.

uhhhh, what would the point of that be? it was obvious that the Koenigsegg was much more oversteery than the Zonda was.

Scud · October 11th, 2005, 09:44 PM

I dont really think Stig is that good.

He does small misstakes all the time and never actually gets a really clean lap.
So the times are a indication at how fast the cars go.

I bet that Damon hill would beat his times and number of other ex F1 drivers aswell.

bartboy9891 · October 11th, 2005, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scud

I dont really think Stig is that good.

He does small misstakes all the time and never actually gets a really clean lap.
So the times are a indication at how fast the cars go.

I bet that Damon hill would beat his times and number of other ex F1 drivers aswell.

you shouldnt really underestimate the Stig, he is pretty damn good. but of course think about how much it would cost to hire an F1 driver to drive all the time. The Stig is an impressive driver and that is fine with me.

wooflepoof · October 11th, 2005, 10:25 PM

He does make minor mistakes from time to time but he has consistent lap times w/ a whole array of different cars. It's more of his consistency than anything they may not be perfect laps, but its enough to see whats faster than what.

matt_shaw · October 11th, 2005, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scud

I dont really think Stig is that good.

He does small misstakes all the time and never actually gets a really clean lap.
So the times are a indication at how fast the cars go.

I bet that Damon hill would beat his times and number of other ex F1 drivers aswell.

explain how you have proof that the stig is not an ex F1 driver? you never know

wooflepoof · October 11th, 2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mattshaw

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scud

I dont really think Stig is that good.

He does small misstakes all the time and never actually gets a really clean lap.
So the times are a indication at how fast the cars go.

I bet that Damon hill would beat his times and number of other ex F1 drivers aswell.

explain how you have proof that the stig is not an ex F1 driver? you never know

good point images/smilies/lol.gif

Renesis · October 12th, 2005, 02:52 AM

Difference is so small that it can be due to track conditions or driving errors, I mean they only take the best lap, not an average, so you can't really compare...

Scud · October 12th, 2005, 04:45 AM

Did I say he wasn't a F1 driver???

NO I did not.

How do you know he is consistent with the lap times when they only show 1 lap with him???

In the race he had against JC in what ever cars it was he really showed he cant drive or race another.

He was mowing the lawn more times then being on the track and this against JC.
That really changed my mind about the stig.

Also seeing DH and MW taking different lines true the corners help change my mind that he aint that good.

From all we know he could be Jason Plato.

Z Draci · October 12th, 2005, 05:07 AM

The Stig "makes mistakes" because he is so far on the edge with these cars.
Even I can do a lap that looks clean and perfect. It's not difficult to drive a car around a track and follow perfect racing lines.
It's an entirely different thing to actually takes cars to the limit and keep it there for the entire lap.
Even with those "mistakes" they take the fastest of Stig's laps.

Those who don't respect the Stig obviously haven't done anything like this before. images/smilies/wink.gif

Even F1 drivers look like they make mistakes because they keep their cars on the limit. They are constantly correcting slides and fighting understeer because they are always close to spinning out.

p0w3r · October 12th, 2005, 05:09 AM

i really dont think its as important to have the stig as someone really really fast. all that is important is to have someone who can pull out consistant driving so that you can compare the laptimes the best.

if it was jason plato....jc wouldnt of had a chance in any of those races images/smilies/wink.gif

matt_shaw · October 12th, 2005, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by p0w3r

if it was jason plato....jc wouldnt of had a chance in any of those races images/smilies/wink.gif

agreed. Jason Plato is driving god!

vanMould · October 12th, 2005, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartboy9891

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanMould

I'd really like to know where the Koenigsegg CCR would make it now. It seems that alot has happened since they tested the CC8S.

Also, rumor sais that the CC8S time was staged, and that it actually is faster than the Zonda.

uhhhh, what would the point of that be? it was obvious that the Koenigsegg was much more oversteery than the Zonda was.

Dunno. Just a rumor maybe.

However, Koenigsegg is in constant development, and the CC8S was featured again in Jezza's Shootout and he claimed that it was a completely different car. He even claimed that it was his favorite supercar at the time (and yes, I know he says that all the time).

Remember that the CCR has got an additional 150hp and brand new custom made italian VPS shocks.

Viper007Bond · October 12th, 2005, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by djdorifto

what epsiode was this?

Isn't searching great?

http://www.finalgear.com/search.php?term=MC12

October 11th, 2005, 08:05 PM	#1
djdorifto Joined: Aug 22nd, 2005 Last Online: January 5th, 2009 Location: Melbourne, Fl (ex-southern californian) Age: 24 Posts: 125 Car: Honda S2000 Rep Power: 14	Maserati MC12 beats the Enzo time? umm, I'm seriously not up to date with the min news about top gear since i'm here in the states.. but I have seen all of the top gear episodes and have not seen a car they tested beat the Enzo's time...Then just now I checked the Stig's Laptimes and the Maserati MC12 has beat the Enzo time of 1.18.9... Anyone else seen this?

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Bander Joined: Jul 3rd, 2005 Last Online: April 1st, 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	Stig is a very good tame racing driver. He is unbeatable at TG testtrack. __________________ Stock up the Stig

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vanMould Joined: Apr 19th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Södertälje, Sweden Age: 21 Posts: 878 Car: Volvo 480ES -88 Rep Power: 19	I'd really like to know where the Koenigsegg CCR would make it now. It seems that alot has happened since they tested the CC8S. Also, rumor sais that the CC8S time was staged, and that it actually is faster than the Zonda.

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Scud Joined: Dec 12th, 2004 Last Online: October 6th, 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 458 Rep Power: 0	I dont really think Stig is that good. He does small misstakes all the time and never actually gets a really clean lap. So the times are a indication at how fast the cars go. I bet that Damon hill would beat his times and number of other ex F1 drivers aswell.

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Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: December 29th, 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 21 Posts: 9,677 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 30	Difference is so small that it can be due to track conditions or driving errors, I mean they only take the best lap, not an average, so you can't really compare...

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Scud Joined: Dec 12th, 2004 Last Online: October 6th, 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 458 Rep Power: 0	Did I say he wasn't a F1 driver??? NO I did not. How do you know he is consistent with the lap times when they only show 1 lap with him??? In the race he had against JC in what ever cars it was he really showed he cant drive or race another. He was mowing the lawn more times then being on the track and this against JC. That really changed my mind about the stig. Also seeing DH and MW taking different lines true the corners help change my mind that he aint that good. From all we know he could be Jason Plato.

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Z Draci Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: May 23rd, 2007 Location: Glendora/Riverside, CA Posts: 915 Rep Power: 0	The Stig "makes mistakes" because he is so far on the edge with these cars. Even I can do a lap that looks clean and perfect. It's not difficult to drive a car around a track and follow perfect racing lines. It's an entirely different thing to actually takes cars to the limit and keep it there for the entire lap. Even with those "mistakes" they take the fastest of Stig's laps. Those who don't respect the Stig obviously haven't done anything like this before. Even F1 drivers look like they make mistakes because they keep their cars on the limit. They are constantly correcting slides and fighting understeer because they are always close to spinning out. __________________ *"The car is the closest thing we will ever create to something that is alive." - Sir William Lyons*

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p0w3r Joined: May 21st, 2004 Last Online: 02:34 AM Location: New York City! Age: 19 Posts: 1,148 Car: 2008 Audi A4 2.0T Rep Power: 20	i really dont think its as important to have the stig as someone really really fast. all that is important is to have someone who can pull out consistant driving so that you can compare the laptimes the best. if it was jason plato....jc wouldnt of had a chance in any of those races

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