So what is the current file format ?

TheDude · May 21st, 2005, 11:05 PM

Hi !

When last we downloaded new Top Gear episodes, the file format changed every week (for a variety of reasonable reasons).

Does anyone know what file format is going to be used for the new episodes (video and audio) ?

Cruzz563 · May 22nd, 2005, 01:40 AM

The video will still be XviD and the audio will still be MP3. images/smilies/smile.gif

TheDude · May 22nd, 2005, 02:18 AM

That's good - but what rate audio ?

Previously, some of us wanted a little better sound, since higher rate audio only adds 1% to the file size.

Cruzz563 · May 22nd, 2005, 02:43 AM

It will probably the same bit rate as the one for the recent Fifth Gear eps...which I don't know off hand, soz. It will be stereo a better overall experience, I think he keep that quality audio when we had that discussion about that you mention above... so, yeah images/smilies/smile.gif

If I remember, I'll ask him for the details and post back here images/smilies/smile.gif

Got3n · May 22nd, 2005, 03:06 AM

i thought they were all xvid or divx

Cruzz563 · May 22nd, 2005, 03:17 AM

The early one's are WMV, then we moved to DivX for a short while, now XviD is the current video codec used.

EsPpY · May 22nd, 2005, 03:50 PM

Why not DivX?

YipMing · May 22nd, 2005, 05:20 PM

Divx isn't opensourced so either you pay to use it to encode.
Or you get that ugly watermark in the video.

Xvid offers around the same quality as Divx anyway.

Renesis · May 22nd, 2005, 05:48 PM

Yeah expect it to be the same thing as 5g, but with like twice the size since it's 2x longer

mpulztracker · May 22nd, 2005, 06:58 PM

Xvid's pretty cool ! The recent 5G eps were an awesome job ! Thanx ppl ! images/smilies/biggrin.gif

jensked · May 22nd, 2005, 07:23 PM

I also prefer XviD...I think the quality is better than DiVX and it is free !

Viper007Bond · May 22nd, 2005, 07:59 PM

Yeah, the quality of XviD is better than that of DivX.

justin syder · May 23rd, 2005, 04:05 AM

anyone notice Xvid is Divx in reverse?

WOOOOOWWW images/smilies/lol.gif

Cruzz563 · May 23rd, 2005, 04:49 AM

Yeah justin, a little late to the party images/smilies/lol.gif

MyBoy · May 23rd, 2005, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruzz563

The video will still be XviD and the audio will still be MP3. images/smilies/smile.gif

Since im new here, so maybe my view will carry no weight at all. But here what i have to say. I have done quite a few encoding task. It seems to layman like me that Nero H.264 implementation is better than anything else at least at this moment. As a consequence, we can get a better quality with the same file size or the same quality with smaller file size. So what do think?

Viper007Bond · May 23rd, 2005, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin syder

anyone notice Xvid is Divx in reverse?

WOOOOOWWW images/smilies/lol.gif

Duh.

Cruzz563 · May 23rd, 2005, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyBoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruzz563

The video will still be XviD and the audio will still be MP3. images/smilies/smile.gif

Since im new here, so maybe my view will carry no weight at all. But here what i have to say. I have done quite a few encoding task. It seems to layman like me that Nero H.264 implementation is better than anything else at least at this moment. As a consequence, we can get a better quality with the same file size or the same quality with smaller file size. So what do think?

This has been discussed before along with the WMV-HD codec, in the forum and in the IRC channel. We don't really want to use it cause not everyone has a fast enough processor to decode the video. images/smilies/smile.gif

MyBoy · May 23rd, 2005, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruzz563

This has been discussed before along with the WMV-HD codec, in the forum and in the IRC channel. We don't really want to use it cause not everyone has a fast enough processor to decode the video. images/smilies/smile.gif

Thanks for your kind respond buddy. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

TheDude · May 23rd, 2005, 11:22 PM

Hi !

I thought the consensus of opinions, back in May, was that 128k audio only takes a tiny fraction more than 92k audio and makes a significant difference in sound quality.

But, I now see that the new TopGear download is 92k MP3 sound.

This is even more important now, due to the features about songs !

PS In places where MP3s are torrented, nowadays no one uploads anything less than 192k and even in the old days of dialup a few years ago, 128k was the standard.

Cruzz563 · May 23rd, 2005, 11:45 PM

Yes Vuk is tweaking it for the new season...last season the audio was 112 kbps for TG, I believe he's trying to get it back up there. images/smilies/smile.gif

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Cruzz563 Cruzz563\|work Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2008 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Age: 24 Posts: 2,657 Rep Power: 25	It will probably the same bit rate as the one for the recent Fifth Gear eps...which I don't know off hand, soz. It will be stereo a better overall experience, I think he keep that quality audio when we had that discussion about that you mention above... so, yeah If I remember, I'll ask him for the details and post back here __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

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Cruzz563 Cruzz563\|work Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2008 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Age: 24 Posts: 2,657 Rep Power: 25	The early one's are WMV, then we moved to DivX for a short while, now XviD is the current video codec used. __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

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TheDude Joined: Nov 10th, 2004 Last Online: December 19th, 2005 Posts: 105 Rep Power: 0	That's good - but what rate audio ? Previously, some of us wanted a little better sound, since higher rate audio only adds 1% to the file size.

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EsPpY Joined: Jan 24th, 2005 Last Online: 08:27 AM Location: Where F1 runs at night Posts: 560 Rep Power: 18	Why not DivX?

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YipMing Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: November 13th, 2005 Location: Sydney, Oz Posts: 124 Rep Power: 0	Divx isn't opensourced so either you pay to use it to encode. Or you get that ugly watermark in the video. Xvid offers around the same quality as Divx anyway.

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Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 17th, 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 21 Posts: 9,676 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 0	Yeah expect it to be the same thing as 5g, but with like twice the size since it's 2x longer

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mpulztracker Joined: Jan 6th, 2005 Last Online: 03:34 PM Location: United Kingdom Posts: 253 Rep Power: 0	Xvid's pretty cool ! The recent 5G eps were an awesome job ! Thanx ppl !

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jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: 10:59 AM Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 25 Posts: 3,972 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 40	I also prefer XviD...I think the quality is better than DiVX and it is free ! __________________

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Cruzz563 Cruzz563\|work Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2008 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Age: 24 Posts: 2,657 Rep Power: 25	Yeah justin, a little late to the party __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

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TheDude Joined: Nov 10th, 2004 Last Online: December 19th, 2005 Posts: 105 Rep Power: 0	Hi ! I thought the consensus of opinions, back in May, was that 128k audio only takes a tiny fraction more than 92k audio and makes a significant difference in sound quality. But, I now see that the new TopGear download is 92k MP3 sound. This is even more important now, due to the features about songs ! PS In places where MP3s are torrented, nowadays no one uploads anything less than 192k and even in the old days of dialup a few years ago, 128k was the standard.

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Cruzz563 Cruzz563\|work Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2008 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Age: 24 Posts: 2,657 Rep Power: 25	Yes Vuk is tweaking it for the new season...last season the audio was 112 kbps for TG, I believe he's trying to get it back up there. __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

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