So what is the current file format ? - Page 2

TheDude · May 24th, 2005, 01:56 AM

I'm not sure I understand.

How is lowering the audio rate "tweaking" ?

Isn't there a setting in the encoding software where you select the rate ?

jib jib · May 24th, 2005, 02:14 AM

hi there, i am having a problem playing the new top gear episode. the problem being that it won't play. using winamp i have been able to play all of last years top gears, and all of this years fifth gears. i don't know very much about file formats, so please help! i read the FAQ, and installed divx and xvid, still no luck. perhaps i did something wrong? any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks.

when i try to play the file this is what i get

http://img265.echo.cx/img265/7735/eerrrrr1ru.jpg

even though i have xvid installed

Phix · May 24th, 2005, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin syder

anyone notice Xvid is Divx in reverse?

WOOOOOWWW images/smilies/lol.gif

I never noticed. images/smilies/ohmy.gif

Shocking.

TheDude · May 24th, 2005, 02:24 AM

A couple of things:

"VLC player" (a free download) is famous for playing all formats.

Also:

http://www.videohelp.com

is a good place for tons of information, and a forum with helpful people.

jib jib · May 24th, 2005, 02:30 AM

thank you, its workin now. still don't know what i did wrong with divx.

YipMing · May 24th, 2005, 10:28 AM

Hmm ... suppose if you don't like vnc player you can always visit
http://www.xvid.org/
and grap yourself the codec.

That way winamp and other players will work too.

jensked · May 24th, 2005, 11:36 AM

The one codec that plays everything I came across is FFDShow...it's free and I didn't need to download other stuff...wonderful !

MyBoy · May 27th, 2005, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruzz563

This has been discussed before along with the WMV-HD codec, in the forum and in the IRC channel. We don't really want to use it cause not everyone has a fast enough processor to decode the video. images/smilies/smile.gif

Out of curiousity, What is the lowest spec for processor that can decode H.264 Video? Thank you in advance.

Cruzz563 · May 27th, 2005, 03:35 AM

Not sure, but I think it's somewhere around 1.5GHz, I'm prolly off by a good bit tho images/smilies/tongue.gif

ATPTourFan · November 12th, 2005, 08:49 PM

H.264 at the current bitrate of a 350MB Top/Fifth Gear episode rip is playable on my 667MHz PowerBook G4.

As much as I'd also like to see H.264 become the standard format for video here, I realize that the CPU requirements for the higher quality would leave a lot of people out in the cold, and the relative benefit just isn't there.

For people on this board to say that H.264 (AVC) is crap or QuickTime is garbage, realize that the ISO ratified H.264 as an open standard. AVC does not have to be played in QuickTime Player, if that's your gripe. The construct, however, of H264/AVC is that it exists in the QuickTime container.

It's not going away, and having such a high-quality, ISO ratified codec will bring some order to all the crazy derivatives of MPEG-4 video out there (DivX, Xvid, WMV).

Whatever we do, do not support any closed formats like Windows Media or DivX. XviD and later, H.264, should be the only formats considered for DVD/DTV rips because they will be playable well into the future.

zeoniks · November 12th, 2005, 08:51 PM

I wonder if he can get >128kbps for the audio.... Can't he use .ogg?

tone76 · November 12th, 2005, 10:49 PM

I, for one, hope the current format remains intact.

I know that stuff like H.264 and OGG offers slightly better quality. However, if Vuk, Viper007Bond and the other people capping FG/TG were to switch over to these formats, an awful lot of people with standalone DivX/XviD players would find themselves out in the cold.

Not all of us want to watch what we download on our PCs. Some of us DO like watching TV ... well, on a TV ...

So, thanks to the cappers/rippers for sticking with the tried and true XviD/MP3 combo - it works great in my MTK1389-based DivX DVD Player! images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

Buba · November 12th, 2005, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tone76

I, for one, hope the current format remains intact.

I know that stuff like H.264 and OGG offers slightly better quality. However, if Vuk, Viper007Bond and the other people capping FG/TG were to switch over to these formats, an awful lot of people with standalone DivX/XviD players would find themselves out in the cold.

Not all of us want to watch what we download on our PCs. Some of us DO like watching TV ... well, on a TV ...

So, thanks to the cappers/rippers for sticking with the tried and true XviD/MP3 combo - it works great in my MTK1389-based DivX DVD Player! images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

Right! Standalone Divx (99% used as Xvid players) are the reason why the scene isn't going for better codecs...
And at the bitrate we are talking about newer codecs don't offer that much improvement... Its mostly at low bitrates where they stand out...

Xvid is considered to have 90-95% of the quality of newer codecs, so for the sake of compatibility I hope that this discussion ends like the other 452 have ended -> Things stay as they are...

Buba

//edit: when I finally decide if I should get a 42'' Plasma and a MCE PC, I'll prolly swizch camps images/smilies/wink.gif

ATPTourFan · November 13th, 2005, 02:54 AM

get the Plasma... and a Mac. Don't bother with MCE.

neojohnson · November 22nd, 2005, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Yeah, the quality of XviD is better than that of DivX.

I'm quite agree with that.
Now everything on BT or Emule is encoded in XviD, movies , TV Series. The quality is fairly good than Divx.

May 24th, 2005, 02:14 AM	#22
jib jib Joined: May 21st, 2005 Last Online: January 7th, 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 10 Car: 1975 BMW 2002 LFS Status: Rep Power: 0	hi there, i am having a problem playing the new top gear episode. the problem being that it won't play. using winamp i have been able to play all of last years top gears, and all of this years fifth gears. i don't know very much about file formats, so please help! i read the FAQ, and installed divx and xvid, still no luck. perhaps i did something wrong? any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks. when i try to play the file this is what i get even though i have xvid installed

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jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 25 Posts: 4,011 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 43	The one codec that plays everything I came across is FFDShow...it's free and I didn't need to download other stuff...wonderful ! __________________

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May 24th, 2005, 01:56 AM	#21
TheDude Joined: Nov 10th, 2004 Last Online: December 19th, 2005 Posts: 105 Rep Power: 0	I'm not sure I understand. How is lowering the audio rate "tweaking" ? Isn't there a setting in the encoding software where you select the rate ?

May 24th, 2005, 02:24 AM	#24
TheDude Joined: Nov 10th, 2004 Last Online: December 19th, 2005 Posts: 105 Rep Power: 0	A couple of things: "VLC player" (a free download) is famous for playing all formats. Also: http://www.videohelp.com is a good place for tons of information, and a forum with helpful people.

May 24th, 2005, 02:30 AM	#25
jib jib Joined: May 21st, 2005 Last Online: January 7th, 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 10 Car: 1975 BMW 2002 LFS Status: Rep Power: 0	thank you, its workin now. still don't know what i did wrong with divx.

May 24th, 2005, 10:28 AM	#26
YipMing Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: November 13th, 2005 Location: Sydney, Oz Posts: 124 Rep Power: 0	Hmm ... suppose if you don't like vnc player you can always visit http://www.xvid.org/ and grap yourself the codec. That way winamp and other players will work too.

November 12th, 2005, 08:49 PM	#30
ATPTourFan Joined: Nov 12th, 2005 Last Online: October 5th, 2008 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	H.264 at the current bitrate of a 350MB Top/Fifth Gear episode rip is playable on my 667MHz PowerBook G4. As much as I'd also like to see H.264 become the standard format for video here, I realize that the CPU requirements for the higher quality would leave a lot of people out in the cold, and the relative benefit just isn't there. For people on this board to say that H.264 (AVC) is crap or QuickTime is garbage, realize that the ISO ratified H.264 as an open standard. AVC does not have to be played in QuickTime Player, if that's your gripe. The construct, however, of H264/AVC is that it exists in the QuickTime container. It's not going away, and having such a high-quality, ISO ratified codec will bring some order to all the crazy derivatives of MPEG-4 video out there (DivX, Xvid, WMV). Whatever we do, do not support any closed formats like Windows Media or DivX. XviD and later, H.264, should be the only formats considered for DVD/DTV rips because they will be playable well into the future.

November 12th, 2005, 08:51 PM	#31
zeoniks Joined: Aug 19th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 622 Car: 2007 Nissan Murano Rep Power: 14	I wonder if he can get >128kbps for the audio.... Can't he use .ogg?

November 12th, 2005, 10:49 PM	#32
tone76 Joined: Jul 12th, 2005 Last Online: January 7th, 2009 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 768 Car: 2008 Mazda2 Neo, 2005 Honda Jazz VTi Rep Power: 25	I, for one, hope the current format remains intact. I know that stuff like H.264 and OGG offers slightly better quality. However, if Vuk, Viper007Bond and the other people capping FG/TG were to switch over to these formats, an awful lot of people with standalone DivX/XviD players would find themselves out in the cold. Not all of us want to watch what we download on our PCs. Some of us DO like watching TV ... well, on a TV ... So, thanks to the cappers/rippers for sticking with the tried and true XviD/MP3 combo - it works great in my MTK1389-based DivX DVD Player!

November 13th, 2005, 02:54 AM	#34
ATPTourFan Joined: Nov 12th, 2005 Last Online: October 5th, 2008 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	get the Plasma... and a Mac. Don't bother with MCE.

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