Topgear 700MB downloads is censored!

Snowdriver · December 28th, 2005, 10:16 PM

Has anybody noticed that whoever releases the 700MB versions of TG is censoring anything the guys say about Americans?

I watched episode 07x03 again, and noticed that the 700MB version had some errors in the sound when they stop in the French gorge on their trip down to the Milau bridge (F430, Ford GT, Zonda-F).

I tried the Vuk-ripped 350MB version, and wouldn't you know it, this sentence is cut out from the 700MB version:

"I'll bet this Ford is probably the worst handling car here. I concede that. No American that designed that chassis, is even half aware a road like this exist. If you brought an American here he would die." images/smilies/yucky.gif

ESPNSTI · December 28th, 2005, 10:30 PM

Seems fine on mine (the section in question is 0:54:29 - 0:54:41). images/smilies/unsure.gif

I don't remember what version I got (probably mOOtv).
What version do you have?

Did you check your file with DivFix?

humbo · December 28th, 2005, 10:34 PM

Hmm, I only thought that it was an error in the rip that caused it, I never thought that it was intentionally cut out. I'm still fairly sure it's just an accident as you can still make out what Jeremy was saying, the only part that was cut out was "is even half aware..." I would imagine that if it was intentional they would have cut out "If you brought an American here, he would die of shock."

ESPNSTI · December 28th, 2005, 10:44 PM

Oh that's what you were referring to.
Yah that's just an encoding error.
If they intentionally wanted to sensor something, I'm sure they would have cut out the more significant "this Ford is probably the worst handling car here". images/smilies/tongue.gif

Renesis · December 28th, 2005, 11:19 PM

I loved that part about americans not knowing this stuff exists..

Mercedes5CLR · December 29th, 2005, 1:53 AM

The one i got has it two and my 350 mb one does not. Hum that makes me wonder. images/smilies/unsure.gif

WheatKing · December 29th, 2005, 4:00 PM

http://www.tailofthedragon.com/dragon.html

yea.. we only do left turns in america..

HAHA.. i think it's the europeans that are ignorant..

318 corners in 11 miles.. oh.. and they aren't all left either.

never heard of the smokey moutains.. blueridge highway?

can't wait for the US topgear so they can cut up the poms and eurotrash images/smilies/lol.gif

maybe they can do a rival shootout.. clarkson vs the american host on a series of tracks in europe and america.

zenkidori · December 29th, 2005, 7:34 PM

Yeah, the European theory that all roads are straight is SERIOUSLY flawed. I live right near the rocky mountains in colorado and there isn't a straight among them. I have a hobby of finding the most twisty road I can and driving it in my RX7.

zenkidori · December 29th, 2005, 7:36 PM

Here's a good map of the dragon BTW:

http://www.tailofthedragon.com/maps/poster2005.jpg

ESPNSTI · December 29th, 2005, 7:38 PM

Jeez its just a joke, chill. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Not all, but the overwhelming majority of roads in the US are straight.
Yes there are areas where they are mostly twisty, or where you can find twisties, but for the most part, they're straight.
Plenty of twisties in my area though. images/smilies/twisted.gif

BTW, I went on a Dragon knockoff "rally" in Wisconsin called "The Lizard".
Instead of 11 miles, it was more that 200 though. images/smilies/smile.gif

zenkidori · December 29th, 2005, 7:54 PM

Only in shitty places, like Iowa. images/smilies/lol.gif

The highways and city roads are straight, but that's just good road planning. Anywhere with hills you are sure to find some twisties. Why would you live anywhere that is flat anyway?

Shawn · December 29th, 2005, 8:01 PM

I think it's supposed to be a joke guys, don't get too upset. Besides, a majority of America is covered by highways and freeways, most of which are totally straight. Here in Vancouver for instance, even our (few) highways twist quite a bit.

But I think it just stems from the fact that most of the symbolic American cars like the muscle cars of the 60s and 70s couldn't really go around much.

osabros · December 29th, 2005, 8:10 PM

when i think of roads in america the first thing that pops to mind is route 66, and ill bet im not the only one who thinks like that. and fact is route 66 is a very straight road.
but if you think of europian roads youve got the nurburgring, twisty roads around the french riviera, and the alps.

jetsetter · December 29th, 2005, 8:14 PM

Straight roads are cheaper to build and it the Europeans had the room to do so they would built straight roads also. The problem is that in Europe there is not enough room for the straight road.

Shawn · December 29th, 2005, 8:51 PM

That's no excuse. Fact is they didn't have room so they built lots of glorious, narrow, twisty roads. As a driver, I don't think the economics of it matter much to you.

Besdies, like I said, Canadian roads aren't nearly as straight as American roads... and we have way more room and way less people.

zenkidori · December 29th, 2005, 8:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn_230

I think it's supposed to be a joke guys, don't get too upset. Besides, a majority of America is covered by highways and freeways, most of which are totally straight. Here in Vancouver for instance, even our (few) highways twist quite a bit.

But I think it just stems from the fact that most of the symbolic American cars like the muscle cars of the 60s and 70s couldn't really go around much.

Lol, I don't think anyone is getting upset, it's actually quite amusing to watch some people talk about the straight roads, because they have no idea, haha.

Little education never hurt anyone.

Ianspeed · December 29th, 2005, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenkidori

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn_230

I think it's supposed to be a joke guys, don't get too upset. Besides, a majority of America is covered by highways and freeways, most of which are totally straight. Here in Vancouver for instance, even our (few) highways twist quite a bit.

But I think it just stems from the fact that most of the symbolic American cars like the muscle cars of the 60s and 70s couldn't really go around much.

Lol, I don't think anyone is getting upset, it's actually quite amusing to watch some people talk about the straight roads, because they have no idea, haha.

Little education never hurt anyone.

Its really a reflection on the horrible driving habits and focus on straight line performance of the american idiot.. I mean driver. Besides, how many twisty roads in the US are as well kept or heavily traveled as in the UK, or France, or Germany?

Most roads here are crumbly disaster compared to their EU counterpart... especially the ones with right turns as well as left. images/smilies/wink.gif

Oh and Zenkidori, its RX-7. There is no such thing as an RX7, my fellow rotary guy. Just like GTI.

gtrietsc · December 29th, 2005, 11:46 PM

I say thank God for straight roads. Otherwise it would take a lot longer to get across places you dont want to be, like Kansas. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

zenkidori · December 29th, 2005, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianspeed

Its really a reflection on the horrible driving habits and focus on straight line performance of the american idiot.. I mean driver. Besides, how many twisty roads in the US are as well kept or heavily traveled as in the UK, or France, or Germany?

Most roads here are crumbly disaster compared to their EU counterpart... especially the ones with right turns as well as left. images/smilies/wink.gif

Oh and Zenkidori, its RX-7. There is no such thing as an RX7, my fellow rotary guy. Just like GTI.

wow, you really got me there, way to point out my mistake, I guess I don't know anything about my car, even though I was typing in shorthand images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Guess it's time to put away my streetported 13BT, forget about the GT35R and buy a Honda.

I don't know about lame California(CA sucks IMO), but our mountain roads are very well kept. More roads were even created or extended last year, and existing roads are resurfaced quite regularly. I saw a good amount of silky smooth roads in the northwest while I was there also. Being dragged all over LA for 2 weeks I saw some horrible roads. CA roads just suck in general.

Ianspeed · December 30th, 2005, 1:58 AM

Uh... what? <reads his post again>

I note your missing a "-" in RX-7 and... really thats all I can see I said to you.

Maybe its the american idiot/driver line? I'm talking about american idiot drivers... since I said american idiot ... drivers... as I feel most are with their SUV's and such.

[edited out my sig size request, he already did it! Thanks!. ]

December 28th, 2005, 10:16 PM	#1
Snowdriver Joined: Aug 8th, 2004 Last Online: October 24th, 2009 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	Topgear 700MB downloads is censored! Has anybody noticed that whoever releases the 700MB versions of TG is censoring anything the guys say about Americans? I watched episode 07x03 again, and noticed that the 700MB version had some errors in the sound when they stop in the French gorge on their trip down to the Milau bridge (F430, Ford GT, Zonda-F). I tried the Vuk-ripped 350MB version, and wouldn't you know it, this sentence is cut out from the 700MB version: "I'll bet this Ford is probably the worst handling car here. I concede that. No American that designed that chassis, is even half aware a road like this exist. If you brought an American here he would die." __________________ My Car: 1998 Audi A4 1,8

December 28th, 2005, 10:30 PM	#2
ESPNSTI Can't Find Waldo Joined: Dec 9th, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Decorah, IA Age: 37 Posts: 4,333 Car: 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STI (USDM) LFS Status: Rep Power: 42	Seems fine on mine (the section in question is 0:54:29 - 0:54:41). I don't remember what version I got (probably mOOtv). What version do you have? Did you check your file with DivFix? __________________ Top Gear Episode Guide (Excel) \| Top Gear Episode Guide (HTML) \| Top Gear Classic Episode Guide (HTML) Other Top Gear Guides \| Fifth Gear Guides \| Clarkson's TV/Video List \| Tiff Needell's TV/Video List

December 28th, 2005, 10:44 PM	#4
ESPNSTI Can't Find Waldo Joined: Dec 9th, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Decorah, IA Age: 37 Posts: 4,333 Car: 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STI (USDM) LFS Status: Rep Power: 42	Oh that's what you were referring to. Yah that's just an encoding error. If they intentionally wanted to sensor something, I'm sure they would have cut out the more significant "this Ford is probably the worst handling car here". __________________ Top Gear Episode Guide (Excel) \| Top Gear Episode Guide (HTML) \| Top Gear Classic Episode Guide (HTML) Other Top Gear Guides \| Fifth Gear Guides \| Clarkson's TV/Video List \| Tiff Needell's TV/Video List

December 29th, 2005, 4:00 PM	#7
WheatKing Joined: Nov 11th, 2004 Last Online: 1:32 AM Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 218 Car: '01 Sebring Coupe Rep Power: 0	http://www.tailofthedragon.com/dragon.html yea.. we only do left turns in america.. HAHA.. i think it's the europeans that are ignorant.. 318 corners in 11 miles.. oh.. and they aren't all left either. never heard of the smokey moutains.. blueridge highway? can't wait for the US topgear so they can cut up the poms and eurotrash maybe they can do a rival shootout.. clarkson vs the american host on a series of tracks in europe and america.

December 29th, 2005, 7:38 PM	#10
ESPNSTI Can't Find Waldo Joined: Dec 9th, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Decorah, IA Age: 37 Posts: 4,333 Car: 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STI (USDM) LFS Status: Rep Power: 42	Jeez its just a joke, chill. Not all, but the overwhelming majority of roads in the US are straight. Yes there are areas where they are mostly twisty, or where you can find twisties, but for the most part, they're straight. Plenty of twisties in my area though. BTW, I went on a Dragon knockoff "rally" in Wisconsin called "The Lizard". Instead of 11 miles, it was more that 200 though. __________________ Top Gear Episode Guide (Excel) \| Top Gear Episode Guide (HTML) \| Top Gear Classic Episode Guide (HTML) Other Top Gear Guides \| Fifth Gear Guides \| Clarkson's TV/Video List \| Tiff Needell's TV/Video List

December 28th, 2005, 10:34 PM	#3
humbo Joined: Aug 23rd, 2005 Last Online: July 5th, 2009 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Hmm, I only thought that it was an error in the rip that caused it, I never thought that it was intentionally cut out. I'm still fairly sure it's just an accident as you can still make out what Jeremy was saying, the only part that was cut out was "is even half aware..." I would imagine that if it was intentional they would have cut out "If you brought an American here, he would die of shock."

December 28th, 2005, 11:19 PM	#5
Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 9,669 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	I loved that part about americans not knowing this stuff exists..

December 29th, 2005, 1:53 AM	#6
Mercedes5CLR Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Carrollton, Texas Age: 24 Posts: 83 Rep Power: 25	The one i got has it two and my 350 mb one does not. Hum that makes me wonder.

December 29th, 2005, 7:34 PM	#8
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	Yeah, the European theory that all roads are straight is SERIOUSLY flawed. I live right near the rocky mountains in colorado and there isn't a straight among them. I have a hobby of finding the most twisty road I can and driving it in my RX7.

December 29th, 2005, 7:36 PM	#9
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	Here's a good map of the dragon BTW:

December 29th, 2005, 7:54 PM	#11
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	Only in shitty places, like Iowa. The highways and city roads are straight, but that's just good road planning. Anywhere with hills you are sure to find some twisties. Why would you live anywhere that is flat anyway?

December 29th, 2005, 8:01 PM	#12
Shawn Lexus? Oh shi- Joined: May 26th, 2005 Last Online: July 30th, 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Age: 24 Posts: 11,026 Car: '07 Boring Poseur Mobile Rep Power: 134	I think it's supposed to be a joke guys, don't get too upset. Besides, a majority of America is covered by highways and freeways, most of which are totally straight. Here in Vancouver for instance, even our (few) highways twist quite a bit. But I think it just stems from the fact that most of the symbolic American cars like the muscle cars of the 60s and 70s couldn't really go around much.

December 29th, 2005, 8:10 PM	#13
osabros Joined: May 30th, 2005 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Age: 20 Posts: 683 Rep Power: 0	when i think of roads in america the first thing that pops to mind is route 66, and ill bet im not the only one who thinks like that. and fact is route 66 is a very straight road. but if you think of europian roads youve got the nurburgring, twisty roads around the french riviera, and the alps. __________________

December 29th, 2005, 8:14 PM	#14
jetsetter Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 2:26 AM Location: Most Serene Republic of California Posts: 5,742 Car: 1992 Toyota Pickup Rep Power: 76	Straight roads are cheaper to build and it the Europeans had the room to do so they would built straight roads also. The problem is that in Europe there is not enough room for the straight road. __________________ "I saw myself founding a new religion, marching into Asia riding an elephant, a turban on my head and in my hands the new Koran I would have written to suit my needs." - Napoléon Bonaparte

December 29th, 2005, 8:51 PM	#15
Shawn Lexus? Oh shi- Joined: May 26th, 2005 Last Online: July 30th, 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Age: 24 Posts: 11,026 Car: '07 Boring Poseur Mobile Rep Power: 134	That's no excuse. Fact is they didn't have room so they built lots of glorious, narrow, twisty roads. As a driver, I don't think the economics of it matter much to you. Besdies, like I said, Canadian roads aren't nearly as straight as American roads... and we have way more room and way less people.

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gtrietsc Joined: Dec 14th, 2004 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Age: 32 Posts: 1,241 Car: '06 BMW X3, '07 Ford F-150 FX4 Rep Power: 38	I say thank God for straight roads. Otherwise it would take a lot longer to get across places you dont want to be, like Kansas. __________________

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Ianspeed Joined: Apr 2nd, 2005 Last Online: 2:48 AM Location: California, USA Posts: 710 Car: 2008 Mazda Rx-8 Sport Rep Power: 19	Uh... what? <reads his post again> I note your missing a "-" in RX-7 and... really thats all I can see I said to you. Maybe its the american idiot/driver line? I'm talking about american idiot drivers... since I said american idiot ... drivers... as I feel most are with their SUV's and such. [edited out my sig size request, he already did it! Thanks!. ] __________________

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