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    #21
    Have to wait for more details to emerge to see if this as serious as it sounds:

    Zhejiang University students have hacked the Tesla Model S with an attack that enabled them to open its doors and sun roof, switch on the headlights and sound the horn - all while the car was driving along.
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07...tesla_model_s/
    Last edited by jack_christie; July 21st, 2014, 2:14 PM.
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      #22
      How Hackable Is Your Car? Consult This Handy Chart
      http://www.wired.com/2014/08/car-hacking-chart/

      http://www.scribd.com/doc/236073361/...ttack-Surfaces
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        #23
        None of my vehicles are remote hackable. For starters, one has carburetors, one has an analog unprogrammable 'computer'.

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          #24
          This looks easy enough to do for the viper/directed/audiovox aftermarket car alarms.

          http://andrewmohawk.com/2012/09/06/h...d-key-remotes/
          Originally posted by MadCat360
          You've never driven your car hard and you never will. Only a professional racing driver can drive a car hard. Everyone else sucks.

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            #25
            All your cars are belong to us

            That's a garage door remote, which are notoriously easy to hack and have a tiny keyspace, 4096 possible 'combinations' in this case. Almost all of the Viper/DEI/ex-CodeAlarm Audiovox units from the 90s on are rolling code units where the code changes each time you use it (unlike most garage door openers though more are starting to come with it) and have a keyspace well into the millions.

            All this guy has done is reverse engineer the 'code grabber' attack of the 80s and 90s, the one that caused rolling codes to be implemented in the first place.

            Edit: Yup, he basically says so himself-

            Last edited by Spectre; August 12th, 2014, 7:34 PM.

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              #26
              "A Survey of Remote Automotive Attack Surfaces" - a paper which was presented at this year's Black Hat security conference in las Vegas. Pretty interesting, but of course, they only surveyed a limited number of car models.

              Condensed findings (page 88):

              Most Hackable:
              1. 2014 Jeep Cherokee
              2. 2015 Cadillac Escalade
              3. 2014 Infiniti Q50

              Least Hackable:
              1. 2014 Dodge Viper
              2. 2014 Audi A8
              3. 2014 Honda Accord

              (No, I don't know why they call the i8 the i12 in the paper)

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                #27
                there's a hack for those too...

                http://spencerwhyte.blogspot.ca/2014...nd-replay.html

                that seems even easier
                Originally posted by MadCat360
                You've never driven your car hard and you never will. Only a professional racing driver can drive a car hard. Everyone else sucks.

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                  #28
                  Good news!

                  Auto industry forming consortium to fight hackers

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                    #29
                    bad link.
                    "I don't care who does the electing, so long as I get to do the nominating" -Boss Tweed

                    "No man's life, liberty or happiness are safe while Congress is in session,"- Mark Twain

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by AiR View Post
                      Industry looking at intelligence-sharing platform or an Auto-ISAC in anticipation of more automated, connected -- and vulnerable -- vehicles.

                      Another day, another ISAC -- and this time it's the automobile industry.
                      Bit late to be only taking it seriously now...

                      http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/uk-police-r...ainers-1471131





                      http://www.darkreading.com/analytics...d/d-id/1297313
                      Last edited by jack_christie; October 26th, 2014, 1:22 PM.
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                        #31
                        Range Rover pawn'd?
                        http://www.theguardian.com/money/201...eyless-locking
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                          #32
                          Those Defenders don't look stolen, more like custom built ones to go to the US with false documentation. They look very similar to ones produced by a company I know.

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                            #33
                            Originally posted by Matt2000 View Post
                            Those Defenders don't look stolen, more like custom built ones to go to the US with false documentation. They look very similar to ones produced by a company I know.
                            National Crime Agency site
                            http://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.u...ed-at-uk-ports
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                              #34
                              Originally posted by Matt2000 View Post
                              Those Defenders don't look stolen, more like custom built ones to go to the US with false documentation. They look very similar to ones produced by a company I know.
                              It still annoys me that DC bureaucrats get in the way of us enjoying awesome Euro and JDM cars
                              "Men with guts attack those corners!" - Keiichi Tsuchiya
                              2006 Acura TL and 1999 Mazda Miata

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                                #35
                                Originally posted by LeVeL View Post
                                It still annoys me that DC bureaucrats get in the way of us enjoying awesome Euro and JDM cars
                                Blame Mercedes for that one.

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                                  #36
                                  They are both to blame. But you can make it happen eventually.

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                                    #37
                                    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/c...xury-cars.html

                                    a major security weakness leaving hundreds of thousands cars of around 30 different models vulnerable to theft. Is yours safe?
                                    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04nchtj
                                    Last edited by jack_christie; October 29th, 2014, 11:29 PM.
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                                      #38
                                      Of course the car makers are going to deflect the blame. But if laws against stealing vehicles is not enough to stop thieves from stealing vehicles, what makes them think that the devices just won't be made off the grid so to speak when they are made illegal?
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                                        #39
                                        TLDR: Bunch of German car companies pretend there is no problem and blame the people who highlight their failures. That's never happened before.

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                                        "The test was rigged and there was nothing wrong with the car" - Mercedes.
                                        Mercedes also threatened to sue public broadcaster SVT for showing the footage on the news. Guess they never learn.
                                        Last edited by AiR; October 30th, 2014, 10:54 AM.

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                                          #40
                                          Half of cars stolen in London are done with a reprogrammed blank key.

                                          BMW and its dealers didn't bother to tell owners about a security fix, even on cars brought to garage for repair more than once.

                                          Motor industry, BMW, Audi, Jaguar Land Rover response:
                                          http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/arti...9/car-security
                                          Last edited by jack_christie; October 30th, 2014, 9:37 PM.
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