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    ^ Good review. Of the two I'd likely go for the Flex: The Explorer's a bit tighter inside as far as 3rd row legroom goes.

    Actually if I were buying, I'd skip both and go with a CPO Freestyle/Taurus X. Same platform as the Explorer and Flex but more practical and roomy for less money.
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      Yeah but, doesn't the CVT have problems?
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        Originally posted by 93Flareside View Post
        Yeah but, doesn't the CVT have problems?
        Some love it and report no issues, others say otherwise. The Taurus X uses the GM/Ford 6-speed so no worries there..only downside is a small drop in fuel economy.
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        Get out of my way! I have photocopiers to sell! ~ Perc

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          courtesy wipe? well i have it in my 2001 focus too..

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            Originally posted by 93Flareside View Post
            The turn signal noise is also strange. It sounds too "digital." Does that make sense?
            I know exactly how you feel. A relay click is just not replaceable by some bing or dong.
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              I don't mind a digital blip blop blip blop or tik tok tik tok.

              What I do mind is the "bip bip bip bip" in cheap Renaults and Dacias. Not a blip, just a bip. Like the letter L was too expensive.

              The turn signal in my Skoda (and probably most other VAG products of the era) is a bit too quiet, imo. Either that, or it just doesn't sync with my ears. My brain filters it out after being exposed to it for a little while.
              Last edited by Perc; October 4th, 2013, 2:12 PM.
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                Then don't ever drive an MB B. It's much quieter than ours
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                  It's not really "quiet" per se, it's just that my brain filters it out. I can hear it just fine when I flick it on but I've had to look down at the gauge cluster numerous times to check if it still is on. It's strange. Does any of this sound familiar to you narf?
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                      Originally posted by 93Flareside View Post
                      2013 Ford Explorer w/ 2,000 miles

                      The best part? It doesn't lock out your phone like some car stereos do forcing you to navigate through the stereo. If you feel navigating your phone is faster, it works.

                      The dash can show to the right of the speedo GPS, radio info, or your phone stuff.

                      The one thing that would bug me is the new tone Ford uses for warning. Like when you start the car, or you leave your headlights on and you open the car door when the car is shutoff. It's so weird and irritating. I want a standard bong. The turn signal noise is also strange. It sounds too "digital." Does that make sense?
                      good review, even i have nothing to compare it against.
                      I dont quite understand why you would use your phone to browse for a file though.... a big plus for me is that yu can just leave your phone in your coat/backpack in the boot and access anything and everything (call info, texts, music) from the head unit... speed of browsing depends on the phone, not the hu or the connection

                      On warning bongs and bleeps : the only 3 reasons when a car is allowed to bong at me are these :

                      - you're going hit that car/house/tree/child (ie parking sensors)
                      - you've forgotten to turn off the lights you fool! now my battery will be drained
                      - you've left the key in the ignition! someone will steal me!

                      all else is superfluous (stuff like 'door is a jar'.... no its not, its a door! and its open because i want to get out)

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                        Sorry, outside picture would be good, wouldn't it?



                        Best color for it. White would be good if you want to imitate people. The state police and some local towns have them.
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                          Originally posted by 93Flareside View Post
                          White would be good if you want to imitate people. The state police and some local towns have them.
                          I presume you mean intimidate?
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                            Imitate state police to intimidate drivers?
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                              Maybe you can even leave a tissue box on the dash, right where the light cluster would sit.
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                                Last edited by Adunaphel; October 10th, 2013, 7:37 PM.
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                                  The keycard is SO BIG. Why do they insisst on it, it wont fit your pockets, and keyless card is an option (!).
                                  It is a nice little hatch, a good all-rounder, but if you like power and corners you should try the Fiesta with the Ecoboost. The 100PS 1.0 is just so good!
                                  I really don't understand why Renault covered the nice steering wheel with plastic either, gets slippery.
                                  Last edited by AiR; October 10th, 2013, 7:45 PM.

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                                    How spacious is the Fiesta's rear seat? I need to be able to comfortably stash two kiddies plus accesories in there, and the Fiesta's rear doesn't look that big from the outside.
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                                    2014 Renault Clio Tce 90 S&S Expression Pack Introduction
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                                      It's smaller than the Clio's for sure. But the size difference is most notable in the boot. It'll be a dark cave for kids in both. Here are the dims. Yellow: length/height. Red: Width/depth.

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                                      And a hard to read comparison
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                                      Also before anyone says something my handling comparison does not apply to an RS

                                      Own car review: Today I picked up my Astra again with a now functioning ABS-ESP-system after a week and a half with the i30 rental. Turning the wheel for the first time it felt like I was piloting an oil tanker and the "different" clutch and pedal resistance took me by surprise and I literally went "woooo" up towards the first T-intersection as I applied the brakes and nothing happened for what felt like a very long time. I was quickly reminded you need to push the pedals alot more to make them do anything in the Astra.
                                      Heavyness aside, the Astra steering feedback is better than the "over-assisted" i30, which feels quite numb.
                                      Last edited by AiR; October 10th, 2013, 8:53 PM.

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                                        Rear legroom is 4cm bigger in the Renault compared to the Fiesta. That's a lot.
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                                          Originally posted by AiR View Post
                                          But the size difference is most notable in the boot. It'll be a dark cave for kids in both.
                                          Most boots are.
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