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    Narf

    You might as well conclude that broken late 90s Volvo drivers are more likely to use the internet
    Or that Volvo owners aren't car people, and just go to the dealer.
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      Originally posted by japanadian View Post
      WOW... 2002 Acura TL has some pretty damn major flaws:

      http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Re...l=TL&trimid=-1

      makes the volvos look good...
      It seems the only real major one is the automatic transmission. Find one where the problem has recently been fixed and you'd be fine.


      And all this talk of reliability is amusing. According to the records, my French car only had to go back to the dealer once, for a rattly seat rail to be replaced under warranty. As of right now, there are no electrical or mechanical issues to report, and judging from the records, there never has been either.
      Last edited by Hbriz; November 27th, 2011, 1:01 AM.

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        Originally posted by _HighVoltage_ View Post
        I would not conclude that, but we have to consider it. The demographic of every car brand is vastly different. Drivers of broken Volvo's may as well be more likely to complain on that website, compared to Civic drivers. But we don't know that. And because of this, we can't concede my point that Volvo's are reliable, but neither can we trust a website like this, because its sample is dubious at best.

        (just as an example, I was looking at my car's history - the first owner took it several times to the dealer over the period of a couple of years, and a few of the trips were for things as simple as "new windshield wipers" or "new taillight bulb". Just because he was the sort of person whose hands are in his ass, and can't change his own wipers, should we conclude that the car was unreliable because of frequent trips to the dealer?)
        Funny thing about TrueDelta is that it lists the problems the cars have. Number one issues with the S70s? The front suspension falling apart. I wouldn't call that a minor issues.

        Any other weak arguments? There is no problem with liking an unreliable car, but don't try to delude yourself and others.
        bogative ?

        "Any car which holds together for a whole race is too heavy." - Colin Chapman
        "If you think about it breast implants aren't much different than braces. Their main purpose is to improve one's appearance, at least that's how it was in my case." - KaJun
        "So the [suspension's] spring seats fail every 2 years, so what? They cost less than $250 to fix. And if a person can't afford that every two years, than maybe he shouldn't own a car at all." - _HighVoltage_ on Volvos.

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          Here is a car ricky should have come up with: 2004 Hyundai XG350

          Thoughts? Its slowish but not slug slow

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            Originally posted by japanadian View Post
            Here is a car ricky should have come up with: 2004 Hyundai XG350

            Thoughts? Its slowish but not slug slow
            It's not terribly engaging to drive (consumer reports called it the "korean buick" ) but it does look somewhat upscale and my parents' 05 example has been trouble free at nearly 70k.

            If the powertrain warranty is transferrable in canada then that's a bonus (it isn't here).

            You'll want to make sure any examples you look at has had the timing belt changed. Hyundai/kia recommends every 60k for the 3.5 and it's absolutely critical that its replaced.

            If the owner isn't sure if it has or not, negotiate a lowered price so you can get it done first thing after you buy.
            Last edited by rickhamilton620; November 27th, 2011, 3:18 AM.
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              The XG is very likeable. Again, there are only a handful here, but I am partial towards them.

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                Originally posted by argatoga View Post
                Funny thing about TrueDelta is that it lists the problems the cars have. Number one issues with the S70s? The front suspension falling apart. I wouldn't call that a minor issues.

                Any other weak arguments? There is no problem with liking an unreliable car, but don't try to delude yourself and others.
                So the spring seats fail every 2 years, so what? They cost less than $250 to fix. And if a person can't afford that every two years, than maybe he shouldn't own a car at all.

                And I'm not deluding anyone, I'm sharing what I know about these cars and their problems. If anything, you're the one trying to delude people that Volvos are the most unreliable POS. They have their issues, but the advantages far outweigh the negatives.
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                  Originally posted by _HighVoltage_ View Post
                  So the spring seats fail every 2 years, so what? They cost less than $250 to fix. And if a person can't afford that every two years, than maybe he shouldn't own a car at all.

                  And I'm not deluding anyone, I'm sharing what I know about these cars and their problems. If anything, you're the one trying to delude people that Volvos are the most unreliable POS. They have their issues, but the advantages far outweigh the negatives.
                  That isn't a minor issues. That's a "I can't drive my car safely" issues. Volvos aren't the most unreliable cars, I know I own British cars.

                  By the way, thanks for the quote.
                  Last edited by argatoga; November 27th, 2011, 5:46 AM.
                  bogative ?

                  "Any car which holds together for a whole race is too heavy." - Colin Chapman
                  "If you think about it breast implants aren't much different than braces. Their main purpose is to improve one's appearance, at least that's how it was in my case." - KaJun
                  "So the [suspension's] spring seats fail every 2 years, so what? They cost less than $250 to fix. And if a person can't afford that every two years, than maybe he shouldn't own a car at all." - _HighVoltage_ on Volvos.

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                    Originally posted by argatoga View Post
                    That isn't a minor issues. That's a "I can't drive my car safely" issues. Volvos aren't the most unreliable cars, I know I own British cars.
                    Hehe, good point.

                    But the spring seat failure isn't a "OMG I'm GOING TO DIE" issue. I've had it fail at 60mph and nothing much happened. It's certainly something you want to fix ASAP, but you don't lose control and crash when they fail.

                    In any case, I will admit that it is a crappy and idiotic design in the first place.
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                        That's pretty much how it works here. They are there to check if you've been drinking and driving, not if you are driving your second cousin twice-removed's car and you're not on the insurance. Every time I've been stopped it took maybe 15 seconds. Here you don't even have to blow into a tube if you claim you haven't been drinking, just count to 10 into a thing and it says if there is any alcohol on your breath. If there is, they get the tube out. If not, they let you go on your way.

                        I've seen someone do a U-turn before reaching a breath test too. Some guy in a Pajero on a Saturday morning. They usually keep a lookout for people doing exactly that and chase them down.
                        Last edited by Hbriz; November 27th, 2011, 6:46 AM.

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                          Caught a bit of a typo on Cadillac's Facebook page:



                          0.4 seconds? Veyron ain't got nothing on them
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                            I saw my first Fiat 500 last night. I tried taking a picture, but it came out all blurry because night time and my boyfriend was dragging me elsewhere so I didn't have a lot of time to actually take a proper picture. (Slow camera plus impatient boyfriend= blurry as all heck picture.)
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                            Derp-tastic.

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                              Originally posted by Evel View Post
                              0.4 seconds? Veyron ain't got nothing on them
                              What worries me is that the only digit next to 0 is 9, so were they trying to say 9.4 seconds?

                              Or they were using numpad and it's supposed to say 1.4 or 2.4!
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                                The car was designed by someone who had a ruler, so it probably does do 9.4 seconds. But if that's the case, my truck would be neck and neck in a drag race with it...
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                                  the number's been fixed on the site. 3.4.

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                                    Our 2007 Focus' AUX jack is in the stupidest place, in the glove box. We have the Sony unit, and if I use my iPod in the car, then I can't close the glove box, which is really annoying for passengers. Is there a special cable or anything or is it just a design flaw?

                                    fire up the Quattro

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                                      Originally posted by Thomas93 View Post
                                      Our 2007 Focus' AUX jack is in the stupidest place, in the glove box. We have the Sony unit, and if I use my iPod in the car, then I can't close the glove box, which is really annoying for passengers. Is there a special cable or anything or is it just a design flaw?
                                      Can you control the iPod from the head unit? If so, just put the ipod in the glove box and leave it be. If not, you can buy longer cables.
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                                        It cannot. I can't buy a longer cable as the door to the box won't close, will investigate further, and just burn myself an MP3 CD, 128 or so songs should last.

                                        fire up the Quattro

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                                          SF Auto show today.

                                          Newish cars liked: Hyundai Veloster, Fiat 500, Ford Focus, Beetle Turbo (wat), Mini Works Coupe

                                          I think I'm going to go test drive all of them. Maybe not the beetle though. I do think it's a good car, but it's not my type.

                                          Ford is also paying me 50 bucks to test drive the Focus.
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