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    #21
    Originally posted by edkwon View Post
    I'd prefer a more classic style fixed front lip vs this retractable rubber lip in the 991 Turbo, it's just another mechanical part destined for failure and requires an expensive replacement when it does, if the anecdotes of other 991 owners is anything to go by.

    Most of the time I only drive it in Sport mode where both the front lip and rear wing are in retracted position. Anything short of track speeds they are really unnecessary.
    They're retractable? Wow.
    This sounds like such an unnecessary gimmick.
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      #22
      Originally posted by Redliner View Post

      They're retractable? Wow.
      This sounds like such an unnecessary gimmick.
      Yup, this is how the front end looks with the lip retracted, the advantage of this is the front end clears parking blocks and steeper driveway entrances a little easier with less scraping of the front end, but I'd rather it be a simple fixed piece that's easier to replace when it gets damaged. If the hydraulics get damaged with the retractable lip, its an expensive fix.

      DSC06617 by Ed Kwon, on Flickr

      DSC06642 by Ed Kwon, on Flickr

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        #23
        The 911 has a ridiculously long overhang in both the front and rear, even the stocky 991 era cars with their significantly longer wheelbase compared to the older cars. It's not just about how low the car is but more about how far in front of the axle the bumper actually is.

        A retractable lip seems like a lighter-weight and simpler solution than the older front axle lift system which accomplishes the same goal but in a much more invasive way. I think it's a smart solution for a problem which is real for street-driven cars. There are places I just can't go in my GT3 because I can't make it into up the parking lot ramp or steep driveway entrance.
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          #24
          Originally posted by Nugget View Post
          The 911 has a ridiculously long overhang in both the front and rear, even the stocky 991 era cars with their significantly longer wheelbase compared to the older cars. It's not just about how low the car is but more about how far in front of the axle the bumper actually is.

          A retractable lip seems like a lighter-weight and simpler solution than the older front axle lift system which accomplishes the same goal but in a much more invasive way. I think it's a smart solution for a problem which is real for street-driven cars. There are places I just can't go in my GT3 because I can't make it into up the parking lot ramp or steep driveway entrance.
          The front axle lift system is still an option in higher trim 911s, from the Turbo to the GT series cars btw for exactly the reason you illustrate since they have their low non-adjustable ground clearance and fixed front lips.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Redliner View Post

            They're retractable? Wow.
            This sounds like such an unnecessary gimmick.
            Not a gimmick. Its a real and not-insignificant aero benefit for highway driving.

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              #26
              Attended a local auto-x style driving event a couple weeks ago, finally got the photos, local to where I live at the Anaheim Angel's stadium. Fun event, convenient and decent price.

              PURETRACK NOV 2018-299 by Ed Kwon, on Flickr




              A few of the other cars that participated:

              PURETRACK NOV 2018 by Ed Kwon, on Flickr

              PURETRACK NOV 2018 by Ed Kwon, on Flickr

              PURETRACK NOV 2018 by Ed Kwon, on Flickr

              PURETRACK NOV 2018 by Ed Kwon, on Flickr

              PURETRACK NOV 2018 by Ed Kwon, on Flickr

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                #27
                Nice car, like the new wheels
                Originally posted by edkwon View Post
                And let's not even talk about the power..
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                  #28
                  Looking good in those pictures!
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by samulis View Post
                    Nice car, like the new wheels

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                    Short version: there's a lot of it.

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