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    Lunacy and Eternal Optimism part II - 2001 Disco 2 V8

    Originally planned to keep this a secret until I had a proof pic tomorrow but I can't manage it. Even MWF doesn't know about this, I wonder what his reaction will be.

    Around a month ago I was considering the options with Keely my 1994 Disco 1 with regards to Ringmeet and Roadtrip, with the general opinion that I had to do something to try and make her comfortable to drive. I made a list that included a possible engine transplant, gearbox swap, suspension upgrade and, oh yes, arm rests. It soon became apparent that none of that work was economically viable on an off-roader and that anything nice would soon get ruined with mud and water. So I went one step further and decided to get another one, strictly for road use. The strict rules were: Leather, V8 and automatic. Also not red or pale blue... or silver if a facelift model. With this in mind I trawled the internet for the very few vehicles that fitted my bill.

    Anyway, more of that later. Today I went up to Glossop in the north of UKania where it rains a lot to pick up my Discovery 2 V8 with a cunning plan that would see me detour through Penistone and get a photo with a sign of the towns name. That fell through as the business I found on Google Streetview has gone, so I had to make do with something I found nearby. Everyone, meet Bugsy and Cheese Bottom.





    So, you may be asking as you pick your jaw up off the floor, what are the differences from the Disco you already have? Well...
    • Keely is a diesel, Bugsy is a smooth 4.0 V8 petrol.
    • Keely is manual, Bugsy has a 4 speed ZF automatic..
    • Keely has covered an undetermined 200k+ miles on 2 engines, Bugsy has only covered 68k miles.
    • Keely has coil springs all round, Bugsy has air suspension on the rear.
    • Keely has no anti-roll bars, Bugsy has active hydraulic ride control.
    • Keely has no A/C, Bugsy has brilliant climate control for all 3 rows.
    • Keely has no cruise control, Bugsy does.
    • Keely's interior is worn and rattly, Bugsy's is not.
    • Keely is loud inside, Bugsy is not.
    • Keely shakes above 60mph, Bugsy does not.
    • keely doesn't have arm rests, Bugsy does.


    The list goes on, they really are like chalk and cheese. Keely is great as an off road toy, and not relying on her for the road allows me to get rid of the nasty headlining and take out the grubby carpets. Sadly though, this means she won't be coming to the Ringmeet. Bugsy will be doing that and will stop myself or MWF from going insane due to the slowness, vibration and rattles. Bugsy has very little rust underneath, unlike the first one I went to see that was at a similar price but rotten underneath. He's just had rustproofing done too to keep it that way, in to the purchase price.

    No doubt you're still wondering why I went for a V8 instead of the very good Td5, but why not? I won't be using it off road so there's no risk of drowning or straining the V8. I can afford the fuel costs at the moment, and the soundtrack is lovely. It's no muscle car sound, but lovely nonetheless.

    You're also asking why I didn't just buy a normal car. Well, I didn't set out looking for an alternative to a Discovery, I think they're great and I like the high driving position, I just set out to find an alternative to Keely for road use. Boy, have I found it.

    More photos!




    No more twiddly knobs. Electronic HVAC controls.






    Sudden seats. I couldn't be bothered to pop them up completely.


    Rear passengers get AC too, didn't even know this was a thing when I first started looking for one.


    Original toolkit.


    So many lights! Fortunately they all go out again.
    Last edited by Matt2000; July 11th, 2018, 8:50 PM.



    #2
    Originally posted by Matt2000 View Post
    Glossop
    Penistone
    Cheese Bottom
    British people are weird.

    Anyway, congrats are in order, guv, etc. etc.

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      #3
      Welcome to the V8 world . For a moment I was about to say that you even got a BMW engine, but that was the newer Range, not the Land.. right?

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        #4
        Congrats on the new rig! Looks like a very clean example.



        Originally posted by thomas View Post
        Welcome to the V8 world . For a moment I was about to say that you even got a BMW engine, but that was the newer Range, not the Land.. right?
        You are correct. The 2002 Range Rover got the BMW 4.4L V8. The Disco 2 still had the old Rover V8, aka the Buick 215 from the early 1960s.


        The sky has been falling for decades.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Crazyjeeper View Post
          You are correct. The 2002 Range Rover got the BMW 4.4L V8. The Disco 2 still had the old Rover V8, aka the Buick 215 from the early 1960s.
          I'm glad you answered that for me because I wasn't sure if that engine was BMW or if Ford just got in there in time. Yes this one is still the ancient Rover V8, at the point where it had masses of extra wires and things keeping it going like an old person on life support. I still love it though.

          Originally posted by BlaRo View Post
          British people are weird.

          Anyway, congrats are in order, guv, etc. etc.
          We invented weird, old boy.


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            #6
            Dad took one of these old V8 Discos for a test drive a few years ago. It was top spec but felt very old in it's design, the V8 was like a grumbling elderly relative, it was endearing but the fact you could watch the fuel gauge drop as you accelerated was enough to put Dad off the idea of ownership.

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              #7
              Paging Spectre...

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                #8
                Wow that is so nice, and clean.

                Ever since I saw Camel Trophy: The Land Rover Years, I have found these cars (also RR classic and defender) to be incredibly cool.




                My dad has an 04 RR which is pretty cool but not the same thing.

                I wanted one for a while but the running costs... Anyway congrats.

                The Night Rider's Flickr

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                  #9
                  Oh yeah I fully expect its economy to be en par or worse than the M5s . But I also assume your tank is much larger?

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                    #10
                    Looks exactly like the one that totaled my mitsu. You are not planning on installing any bullbars are you?

                    It looks amazing for a 14-year old off-roader. Full service history and 1 owner I assume?

                    <Ice> Oh, you're the kiddy anime guy.
                    "The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by skeptics or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were."
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Aston Martin View Post
                      Paging Spectre...
                      He already warned me about the front propshaft when I mentioned the idea a while back, will get the UJs checked. V8 issues are already known but can't be predicted.

                      Originally posted by thomas View Post
                      Oh yeah I fully expect its economy to be en par or worse than the M5s . But I also assume your tank is much larger?
                      17.9 UK mpg average apparently, about 15.8l/100km. I still can't beat Adrian. 90 litre tank.

                      Originally posted by gaasc View Post
                      Looks exactly like the one that totaled my mitsu. You are not planning on installing any bullbars are you?

                      It looks amazing for a 14-year old off-roader. Full service history and 1 owner I assume?
                      No bull bars, no plastic junk, no nothing. Plain, clean and original is the game here.

                      2 owners as it happens and relatively good history, the second owner took over at 17k miles.


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                        #12
                        Oooooooh, very nice
                        "Well, that's fine. You waste your money on a Mustang or a Ferrari. The fact is that if you want a sports car, the MX-5 is perfect. Nothing on the road will give you better value. Nothing will give you so much fun. The only reason I'm giving it five stars is because I can't give it 14."
                        --Jeremy Clarkson on the NC MX-5

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                          #13
                          How is the D2 compared to the D1 in road comfort? My D1 was less comfortable than my currant Ranger. I'm guessing the hydraulics and air suspension help a bit.
                          bogative ?

                          "Any car which holds together for a whole race is too heavy." - Colin Chapman
                          "If you think about it breast implants aren't much different than braces. Their main purpose is to improve one's appearance, at least that's how it was in my case." - KaJun
                          "So the [suspension's] spring seats fail every 2 years, so what? They cost less than $250 to fix. And if a person can't afford that every two years, than maybe he shouldn't own a car at all." - _HighVoltage_ on Volvos.

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                            #14
                            Wahey! Very cool.

                            OSPhoto

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Matt2000 View Post
                              17.9 UK mpg average apparently, about 15.8l/100km. I still can't beat Adrian. 90 litre tank.
                              On paper, or actual real world numbers?

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                                #16
                                We'll see where my recent upgrades put Lucille, the fuel "economy" fight is on!

                                Congrats on the purchase!
                                Battered and weary after the craziness of the 1960s, the self-righteousness of the 1970s and the greed of the 1980s, I want to go home again, oh, so desperately - home to that land of drive-in restaurants and Chevy Bel-Airs, making out and rock 'n' roll and drag races and Studebakers, Elvis and James Dean and black leather jackets. Not that I ever owned a black leather jacket.
                                (Roger Ebert)

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by argatoga View Post
                                  How is the D2 compared to the D1 in road comfort? My D1 was less comfortable than my currant Ranger. I'm guessing the hydraulics and air suspension help a bit.
                                  Much better, the air suspension certainly helps and the hydraulics mean there is minimal roll in the bends. Steering feels nicer and the seats are better than D1 seats too.

                                  Originally posted by thomas View Post
                                  On paper, or actual real world numbers?
                                  On paper, I might dare to fill it up again today and see what I did on the 140ish mile drive down with a couple of detours. I forgot to note the odometer reading before I left but I can work out the distance. It'll probably be much worse.

                                  Originally posted by Dr_Grip View Post
                                  We'll see where my recent upgrades put Lucille, the fuel "economy" fight is on!
                                  My wallet hopes you'll still win that one.
                                  Last edited by Matt2000; May 2nd, 2015, 11:37 AM.


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                                    #18
                                    Oslo Blue Metallic.

                                    99.9% of all D2s are Oslo Blue Metallic, true fact.

                                    Looks very nice!

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Andeh View Post
                                      Oslo Blue Metallic.

                                      99.9% of all D2s are Oslo Blue Metallic, true fact.
                                      Now I think about it, Troy's D2 is the same colour and I seem to remember a blue D2 in your pictures a few years ago. I like the colour though, goes well with the cream leather. I found that epsom green was another popular colour. I looked at a white one which would've looked more modern but as said above it was a shed.


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                                        #20
                                        WHAT?! Rumbling around in a 4.0L V8 at these economical times? How unethical. I'm extremly offended over such an irresponsible level of luxury waftage. - Personally offended! - What's your goal, to be as comfy as possible and listening to your V8 soundtrack while you burn all the poor fossils?! Shame on you!
                                        ...
                                        Wait a minute...
                                        ...
                                        Ack, nevermind.

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