Ownership Verified: i3 for a BMW guy (-07 Benelli TreK)

What kind of trip was that, meet the obscure Italian bikes tour..? :D

We were 3 motorcycle enthusiast on a car trip to see the MotoGP race in Mugello, and we were looking for a place to rent a motorcycle, the roads in that area being to good to waste on just a Fiat Idea 1.4.

We failed to find a motorcycle rental place, but we did find this shop with a very nice owner, who offered to take us on a test ride (even though he knew we would never in a million year buy any of his motorcycles).

Among the bikes for sales was this (going for 30000? used if I recal correctly):

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He didn't include in the test ride offer...
 
:woot:
 
2017 update, 3/4

*Ignores the two year gap*


So, as it goes with bikes it seems, the plans for customisation began immediately, to prepare for the riding season. I might’ve broken the very Italian (good look, but a bit fragile) gear lever while playing in places where the bike wasn’t really designed to go, before I put it to winter storage. Because of this I made folding levers for both gears and rear brake. Not the most beautiful setup, but seems to work.


Then it was to most important things first, some more induction noise. :D Very few of my cars or bikes make it without such modification in some form. DNA was the recommended brand amongst hobbyists, so I went with that. And while tinkering around there I removed some flaps from the intake, only there to pass noise regulations. I also noticed that the guy who has serviced the bike throughout its life had done some pre-emptive improvements to the intake box, to cover for the broad building precision of original parts.The tar-like stuff used for extra sealing had caught quite a bit of crap, which made it cleaning even lovelier process.

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I actually looked the guy up and called him at some point. Not surprisingly he wasn’t too keen on my intake mods, but at least I got some good news about how well the owner had kept it and that he’s the kind of mechanic you’d trust to do a proper job.


Being a new toy (and me being childish), I wanted it back on the road as soon as there were some rideable roads around. Just missed out on a shot where lakes were still completely frozen.

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On to more mods. Later Amazonas version of TreK got more offroad-y parts and I liked how handguards looked there, so those were in my program as well. The pair I got wasn’t really fit for the bike, color-wise when arriving, but I wanted a metal bar and that style of guard. A bit of paint and things were looking much better.


Original form

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And since I wanted adjustable levers it was a good excuse to continue the blacking up process. Before/after.

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Hand guard bar mounts weren’t even close to matching, so I ended up making those as well. The bar is quite wide to start with, but with this setup it’s even less of a lane splitter now, but now the bar width is pretty much exactly the same as my side cases are, so it’s quite easy to judge gaps.


Hand guard painted and installed as well

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More fixing was needed as soon as the season started, as the kickstand mount bolt decided to snap. And of course I wasn’t on the right side of bike to catch it. Fortunately all that broke were a small bit from front fairing and adjustable windshield mounts, which have metal supports now. At least I got to test that my folding levers work..

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Weather remained quite cool throughout spring, but nevertheless, the next noteable chapter was on its way. Nelli was in learner rider duty, as I was giving MXM riding lessons so he could expand his hobbies. Due to our licence system, his Kawa wasn’t applicable for the purpose, so I was riding that during our lessons.

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From a learner standpoint, while the engine and gearbox are compliant and easy to use (if you don’t count finding neutral while stationary), balance and pivot points are rather high. So it’s somewhat trickier for low speed maneuvering. Not the worst learner bike though, I’ve later found out.. :D There’s also the additional challenge of my front brake being quite… jumpy. I’m guessing the bike had stayed at the shop for a while and some pad residue had stuck to discs. This was confirmed as I rotated one disc 180 degrees. But with those discs being 200eur / piece, I wasn’t ready to just replace all things yet, as they still had barely no wear on them. Jerkiness went down considerably even with that disc rotation. Adding to that, I replaced the sintered brake pads it had with “normal” pads and yay, I had normally functioning brakes again!


After plenty of riding lessons (because why not, it’s not like there’s an upper limit) formalities were complete and I continued with my random short cruises around smaller roads nearby. Mostly alone, as my free time schedules rarely match with others. At least there were some exceptions.

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And going where not too many people have gone on this kind of equipment (with tyres like these at least), there were some photo opportunities as I got a bit stuck.

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With the start of the FG UK roadtrip approaching, I toned things down a bit, got some new tyres (Michelin PR3, like it had when I bought it) and new brake pads to the back as well. And as usual I was fully expecting everything to go just fine and fail completely. After few days our bike group made it to UK. At that point Nelli had lost a bit of oil, but I’m guessing that was mostly the first transfer day, spending some 500km on the motorway at 160-180kph. My assumption is supported by not having any more oil loss on the trip. Other than that, usual roadtip stuff happened. And even if this was the most disastrous roadtrip so far, when it comes to breakdowns or faults, the only Italian machine on the trip battled through with surprisingly few issues. I had the biggest scare in Oban, after a full day in the rain. Few kilometres from our campsite, Nelli started to run on two cylinders. As playing with throttle and gears didn’t do anything I killed it on a downhill and coasted down. Tried starting it again while still rolling and it fired up, working perfectly again. Italian things, you know. :p The other issue was my fault, forgetting I have short feet. Stopping in a steep intersection to see that rest of the group notices we’re making a turn, I put the wrong foot down, after which a 10 second futile struggle against the bike falling began. Not that it did any damage, I knew I couldn’t get it back upright while on it, so I had time to turn it off and set it down gently and just step off while laughing at myself. Other than that I made it through the ~6000km trip without any issues (that I remember at least).


All major manufacturing countries (that matter) present. Not too many pictures from the trip, as it was too much of an effort for me to get off the bike to take pictures.

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Arrival to ringmeet was much colder and wet than what we had on the notoriously rainy island. I was rather glad I had a hotel room, so I could dry my riding gear up a bit. During ringmeet some test rides were had and I even conjured up some courage to do couple ring laps. Not the track where you want to have your first track experience, really. Especially on a busy weekend. Fortunately I was following DaHitch for the first lap, as my feel for track speeds and breaking points on two wheels were clearly off. The second lap went by much faster, but I was still mostly afraid of myself, getting over excited and doing something silly. Also, my leather jacket was in someones trunk and I only had my kevlar hoodie, which I didn’t really trust as track gear. :lol:


I got a ride home from my cousin, and because of ferry schedules our departure from the meet was rather abrupt. Idea was to leave the bike to Benis place, so I could get a scheduled service done to it, since it seemed impossible in Finland. Also, it would then be closer and ready for a trip to the Alps next summer. And since we were tight on time the dropping off process was rather hasty as well. Some stuff that should’ve stayed with the bike went to the trunk, forgot to disconnect the bike battery etc. Aaand after a nice 1500km drive we missed the ferry by 5 minutes or so. :mrgreen:


As I have a bad habit of buying toys, incoming winter made me make some silly moves again..

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Didn’t really buy it to be a project bike, but it dished out all the hits I seemed to have missed having an Italian bike. Then again, these offroad toys tend to have quite high ride/fix ratio anyway, so it’s not a surprise, really. Not many pictures here, as it didn’t do as many hours in service than I had to service it.


Stories of 2017 is mostly other people doing stuff with Nelli. During summer, Nelli moved from Beni to Loose_unit. There were other reasons for this, but the upside of this move was that it was now with someone who is legally allowed to ride it around. There were some electrical issues during this move, but it was put down to battery not being in the best order, after it had emptied itself during winter since I forgot disconnect it when I dropped the bike off. Anyway, the plan to get the service done during spring / early summer fell through, so in the end it was scheduled to be done a bit before this years roadtrip. This kind of scheduling usually spells trouble. And of course all things went just according to plan. Joe had used the bike a few times every now and then, but on the way to the shop it died just before making it there. The description of the failure sounded a bit odd, but was still in the “I guess the battery is dead then” mode. After the bike was handed out to the shop they informed that all parts hadn’t arrived, so service would be delayed. Wouldn’t be that bad, I wasn’t running out of days to the roadtrip. A week before the trip the bike was finally finished, with some extra notes of other front fork seal leaking and recommendation of replacing chain and sprockets. Due to schedules, picking up the bike was left to Wednesday. And I was flying in on Monday evening. And on this short pick up trip the bike died on the road again. Our thoughts were still pointing to the battery, so after a bit of searching and schedule jumbling, new battery was found on Friday afternoon.


Changing the battery, on Monday morning, did nothing. Since the bike was still at Joes workplace and getting it anywhere for diagnosing would be an issue, a call to ADAC was made to see if this could be put down to breakdown cover. Later in the afternoon, a man from ADAC came by and after some fuse juggling the bike was running again. Not like that is a fix really, since fuses usually blow for a reason. But, it was few hours until I would be flying there, so if it would just make it closer to somewhere where it can be diagnosed further, it would be better at least. Well, it did get closer, about six kilometres worth. As soon as I put some revs on it on the autobahn the usual combination of all gauges dropping and engine light coming on happened. Fortunately I was quite near a ramp, so I had just enough speed to coast to the entry of the ramp. Tried changing the fuse again, but it blew again as soon as I started the bike. Next fuse blew up as soon the power went on, so that was it for the quick fix then. At a lovely 26-27C I pushed the bike up the ramp and on to the nearest available parking lot, which turned out to be an industrial estate on the other side of the autobahn. After several hours of clueless troubleshooting of the wiring harness and scouting interwebs for similar issues, we called it a day and left the bike there for the night.


Trying to set off

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The guarded parking area where the bike spent the night, through the rental van window

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Next day, supposedly the first roadtrip day started with renting a van for few hours, loading the bike up and dropping it back to the shop. They said they’d look at it, but were quite busy and couldn’t give an estimate when. Tobias decided to skip the first travel day as well, to see if I could still make it. As usual for them, we heard nothing from the shop. Wednesday morning, Tobias left for what turned out to be a rather long drive south, while I went to Köln to be closer if something would happen with the bike. Later in the afternoon I went to the shop to enquire about the situation, when they finally said it’ll be weeks before they get to do anything. That would’ve been helpful info almost two days ago… So that was that for the roadtrip then, booked a flight to Italy, where Tobias picked me up around midnight, after driving for about 15 hours. And then 2 hours to our apartment..


Where the bike was left for unspecified future..

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Since roadtrip was out, the next waypoint was waiting if they could get something confirmed at the shop before Ringmeet ends. This of course didn’t happen. In their usual manner they didn’t make any kind of contact. And when Joe contacted them again they suspected the issue to be the alternator, most likely. I’m aware Italian bikes are rather expensive, but 1000eur for an alternator, and 3-4h work estimate sounded rather steep. Especially as it was just an educated guess. I happened to have a few days off, unlike Joe, so I hopped on the plane again, rented a van again and went to pick up my half disassembled bike. Unfortunately I didn’t have enough days off to do much diagnosing to the bike myself, but at least it was now in a garage where I didn’t need to bother other people to do stuff with the bike for me. So that’s where we’re at at the moment. The most plausible plan at the moment is to get a used alternator, get that refurbished and attack the bike with that, some time in the spring.


The problem child, hiding in storage

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Heading “home”

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At least I gained a new diagnosis tool from this.. :p

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:popcorn:
 
Good luck finding that alternator!
 
Problem child update. Seeing that I’m quite far from the bike, getting things done takes slightly more planning and coordination. But the spring attack happened, just like planned earlier. I got myself a used alternator and started to plan fly&wrench trip with Joe and Beni. Zastava needed to move garages around Easter as well, so I timed my trip around that time, having a truck licence to help move the Zastava.



Waiting patiently in the corner, while The Z was brought to the same garage

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After Zastava was moved to the site we got a bit distracted and decided to build a living room setup, instead of working on either the car or the bike.

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Here’s the view to the apparently hard to reach alternator, which service manual quoted 6 (or 8) hours changing time

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One small plastic cover removed

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Moving one bracket and taking off one coolant hose is enough to have the alternator off

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And a new one put in

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And it’s alive!

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And that was it for this fixing trip. I couldn’t (or didn’t want to) test more than letting it run on the yard, as the bike wasn’t registered for road use. But everything seemed fine. Alternator was charging fine, bike warmed up to working temperature and running as rich as usual. :lol: Last thing to do was get front forks off, to get them refurbished. One was leaking and I was originally planning on changing just the outer seal. But after watching one Budget Bike Battle on youtubes I decided a more thorough job could be in order for a 95k km bike. I really doubt much has been done to the front, or at least there’s nothing in the service book I have. I took the old alternator with me and got it tested back home, to see what’s the issue. Even used parts are priced so that getting it working is worth a service cost. But that plan came out empty. Apparently it ran perfectly fine on a test bench. So now the bike works again and I have no idea why. How calming.



So while I was at home, Joe kindly dropped off the front end to be serviced, to get it done before small test ride trip at start of June. Front axle needs its own tool of course, which I didn’t have. Joe kindly informed me on the day of departure that the front end came back disassembled and the following day in Germany would be a national holiday. Fortunately my small town is DIY oriented enough for me to pick up a fitting tool on the way to train station.



So, the next day I made a fool out of myself. I got new riding boots and they didn’t really fit under the gear lever so I had to adjust the position a bit. After I was done playing with that setup it was time for a test ride, to see if it would work outside a garage. Only that the bike didn’t start. Battery also went flat rather fast, so after couple jump start attempts we left it to charge and went to play with the Pluriel instead. Later in the evening, browsing forums for a possible solution, I started to wonder if the neutral light was on at any point. I’ve gotten used to my low-tech KTM and didn’t remember that bikes tend to have a sidestand kill switch. And sure enough, while the bike was in neutral, the switch didn’t engage. A bit of a wiggle of the lever and and the green N appeared. And bike started as loudly as Joes laugh. :p



Good thing I wasn’t in a hurry. Test ride attempt the next day was more successful, so it was time to load up the bike and head as far south as I have time for. Some 450km later, after sunset I was near Ulm. Next day ended up being a 650km ride, as I wanted to do some detours before meeting up with rest of my family, because Alps and of course I would. :D



Lovely storm on Friday night, which killed the light rather fast.

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Saturday morning-ish. Getting into the groove of things (before returning to motorways)

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For rest of the weekend I let others do the riding (this would be the Red Bull Hare Scramble, if it isn’t instantly recognisable)

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5 hours of +25C and clear skies in a sand pit. With this lightweight setup. I did leave my jacket and helmet at the bike, as I couldn’t be bothered to carry everything. I’m wondering why I didn’t leave the tank bag at the hotel.

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“I wonder where I parked my bike..”

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On Monday it was back to touring days. Our stay for rest of the week was at the other end of Austria, near Swiss and Italian border. I had planned a route via Italy, because of course I would, but rental car contract didn’t allow that. So 570 km day through Austria it was, then.



Google maps was trying to make things a bit too interesting for rest of the family at times.

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And rather surprisingly I was a tad faster on the twisties, leaving me time to take some typical holiday photos while waiting

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I got to test the water-proofness of my new boots on the motorway as well. Those few minutes it took me to put rain gear on saved me from getting hit by hale, but the drops were big enough to be thankful of my handguard installations. :lol:

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The apartment we had even had a shelter, so Nelli got to reside in a quiet, dry place while we were out doing touristy things. But we were less than an hour away from Flüela pass, so I had to, of course. :D Things were a bit more spring-like at the top.



Going up (or towards Davos)

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Coming back

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I got to the groove enough to almost hit my head on those poles couple times. :lol:

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Evening visit to Switzerland, as it was literally down the road from our apartment

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:mrgreen: Should’ve at least closed the tank bag for this..

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Test trip done, all that was left was a 730km ride back to Germany, to meet some other green things (and their owners)

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It’s funny how I’ve now done over 10k km with it, but since I don’t have a clear reason for the electrical issue I’m just constantly waiting for something to go wrong. And that fault has been the single issue with it so far. But whatever, I guess we’ll see how far I’ll get next time, later in the summer.
 
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Like for so many others, a holiday/roadtrip update. :p

I started my trip in the now typical way, heading out few days early to do some work on the bike, before setting off. This time chain & sprockets replacement, cat delete pipe and Power commander install were scheduled in. I've actually had the Power commander unit for a good while, but I was persuaded to get another exhaust before getting it fitted by a dyno place. But I've come to the conclusion that I like the sound and look of the original exhaust and don't want to spend money to ruin that. :) Dyno time was reserved for Thursday noon near Frankfurt, so I set off Tuesday morning, to have some 1½ days to work on the bike.

First things first, a quick wash was in order. Of course I forgot to bring all my cleaning stuff I was planning on taking along..
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Quick rig for chain replacement. Only broke the chain breaking tool, so I consider that a successful operation.
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I'm slow at doing stuff, but otherwise the PC install went rather smoothly.
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..Apart from after the project was finished. Nelli refused to start after PC was installed. It was time to fire up Joe's garage computer, install Dynojet tune software, come to the conclusion that for some reason the supplied USB-cable wasn't working, finding a new long enough mini-USB cable etc etc. After too much pointless faffing we got the ecu connected. Everything seemed fine; there was a map loaded in there, TPS was reading fine and all that. And then suddenly the bike started again. No reason why it did, or didn't start before..

While diving under the tank for the PC install, I replaced some breather hoses as well, which hadn't been done by the service, even when I specifically asked for that.
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I also spent way too much time with the exhaust. And now that the bike and the cat delete pipe were in the same place, it could be confirmed that it was of wrong length. :D The guy who made it had taken the overall length, but then added the sleeve on top of that. So that part of the plan was abandoned, again. But I removed the noise regulation cheat flap from there at least.
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The fitment wasn't that far off, but a) mounts didn't match and b) I would've lost the little ground clearance I have.
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Everything back together, time for a test ride. Everything seemed ok, which is nice.
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Packed up and ready to go.
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Not surprisingly the map provided on the PC was for the wrong model. TreK shares quite a lot with the streetfighter sibling TNT, but engine specs, apart from the main unit isn't one of them. While it ran fine on the wrong map, the consumption went up by 1.5 litres / 100km. :D On the dyno, the guy had the work cut out for him.
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The dyno setup was great. He was literally working from his backyard. But due to my bike being so loud we relocated to a quiet parking lot near an autobahn, to not bother his neighbours.
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Steady 37C in the trailer. Lovely working conditions. Lovely enough that the dyno actually failed before he got the tune finalised. No dyno charts for me. :(
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Onwards to something cooler. A bucket list box ticked, a snowboarding trip with a bike. :D This might be cheating a bit, but still. :p Elevation and cold engine also revealed few problem spots in the new mapping around 3-3500rpm.
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Onwards, to new adventures!
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Almost made it to Italy. :p
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Somewhat surprisingly, the only issue I had on the trip (with the bike at least) was a rear wheel puncture after playing around at the abandoned airfield. Luckily DaHitch had some worms in his toolkit for a quick fix and IceBone quickly sourced me some new tyres. Despite rather common sizes no shop seemed to have anything on the shelf, so we ended up detouring to his trusted tyre shop. What I got was Dunlop Sportmax Qualifier II's. A bit more sport than touring for my liking, but it was literally the only option and they will do nicely.
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Like for so many others, Mangart pass providing a scenic holiday background.
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I broke myself at around the same time as the tyre went, so last couple days of the roadtrip were just about riding to the ringmeet camp with minimal extra activities. And while I was mostly fine again by the time we arrived on Thursday evening, my health collapsed again by Friday evening. Despite missing most of the weekend I got two ringlaps in on Sunday. The first lap was a complete mess of spatial awareness and sense of speed I should be doing. Second lap actually felt rather fast, but no idea about times. I can report new tyres to be really nice on track though. On rough, uneven alpine roads they felt more skittish and unstable than my old, worn PR4's. But strangely enough it made me trust them more, as I could gauge the limits what they can do easier.

Just like previous years, loose_unit has kindly taken care of storing the bike again. It returned to the same garage, again unwashed and in need of an oil change at least. So I guess I'll be heading out early again the next time I have the chance to ride it. :D
 
Thanks for the opportunity to try it.

The engine had a lot more character than what I remembered from my Italian trip over 10 years ago.

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loose_unit;n3552566 said:
Didn't the bike also roll over to 100tkm on the trip?!

It did. Before the trip, already at the typical to the trip temperatures (never mind the Italian spec gauge which shows about 2-3C over, always).
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And arriving to Ringmeet, with plenty of travel grime.
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QUOTE=RdKetchup;n3552569]Thanks for the opportunity to try it.

The engine had a lot more character than what I remembered from my Italian trip over 10 years ago.

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It could very well be the fueling on the bike you tried previously, or at least part of it. Some of these came with shocking fueling maps, straight from the factory. In my case the re-tune brought me 1000rpm more rev range at the lower end. And that was my main goal with that tune to start with, as I found out in May/June that it was horrible to ride in slow turns in stock tune. I doubt peak power changed much.

And talking about dyno, I think a short video clip is in order. :)
 
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DaBoom;n3552574 said:
And arriving to Ringmeet, with plenty of travel grime.
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I wonder what the guys from Motorrad Lust would say :D
 
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