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You May Not Like It, But This Is What Peak Performance Looks Like - 2012 Kia Forte EX

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    #81
    I didn't know ditches liked Kias....
    Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?

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      #82
      Originally posted by CraigB View Post
      We all have those days in the snow. I was just lucky enough that the ditch I went into this year was shallow and I could drive out.
      I totally fucked up some guy’s yard last winter. Was intentionally goofing off and slid across someone’s driveway and into their front yard. I didn’t stop, just continued on and didn’t look back.

      rick, if you find an actual track to learn at, let me know. I’d love to learn this.
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        #83
        Originally posted by avanti View Post
        are you guys using winter/studded tires?
        I know I should, but no. We rarely get snow, maybe 2-3 days a year. I know they help under 45f, just never bother buying another set off tires and wheels.

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          #84
          Originally posted by CraigB View Post

          I know I should, but no. We rarely get snow, maybe 2-3 days a year. I know they help under 45f, just never bother buying another set off tires and wheels.
          Lucille's all-seasons flat-out stop working below -5°C/23F. There is just no grip at all, no matter the surface. It reminded me why winters are a good thing even without studs.
          Battered and weary after the craziness of the 1960s, the self-righteousness of the 1970s and the greed of the 1980s, I want to go home again, oh, so desperately - home to that land of drive-in restaurants and Chevy Bel-Airs, making out and rock 'n' roll and drag races and Studebakers, Elvis and James Dean and black leather jackets. Not that I ever owned a black leather jacket.
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            #85
            Studs don't help unless you're on actual ice. On snow and slush they do nothing that proper studless winters cannot do. If you drove with "all seasons" (or summer tires as we call them) on that weather, no wonder you ditched it.

            Good thing that isn't total loss, but sucks nonetheless!
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              #86
              Thanks guys.

              I’ve gotten three estimates so far. The first one i’d barely consider a estimate because the guy clearly didn’t want a cash buyer so he eyeballed it from a distance, quoted a inflated price for the bumper alone compared to the other estimates then suggested that I just drive it like this.


              The fourth one has been harder to come by because our schedules haven’t synced up. I’m hoping Monday he’ll have time to look at it.
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                #87
                I guess snow wasn't quite the Kia's Forte... I'll leave now.

                "Vikings don't rape and pillage anymore, they drive like warriors instead."

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by luokyio View Post
                  Studs don't help unless you're on actual ice.
                  That's exactly the point. In the U.S., road treatment can change at a county or even township line. If, like Rick, you live in a state like PA, studded tires are an excellent investment.
                  We always buy them for my wife's cars and I usually buy them for mine as well, even AWD cars. Why? Because AWD doesn't do a damn thing for you when you're braking on ice! (Outside of make the vehicle heavier, giving it even more momentum when you hit something...)
                  One other point - if you're fitting studded tires, don't try to skimp by with just 2 - buy 4. Slamming on the brakes or overcooking a turn with studded tires only on one end of the car can get REALLY interesting!

                  SL
                  Last edited by SquareLeft; February 12th, 2018, 7:47 PM.

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                    #89
                    It's pretty rare to use any kind of winter tire unless you go even further north than MA. I pretty much have no choice if I want my car to move in cold weather, but anybody I know with a "normal" car doesn't bother.

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                      #90
                      Winter/studded tires; another one of those crazy europe/us differences it seems.

                      Here by law you must have winter tires or snow chains with you everywhere there is a chance of snow, in northen europe hey take you license if you don't use winter tires, but regardless of the law, driving without is insane.

                      Must be hundreds of thousands of accidents in the us because people don use winter tires.
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                        #91
                        While we do get a lot of snow here, it comes only occasionally, so it snows for a while, the plows clean it up, and the streets are clear until the next time. You pretty much have to be driving during the snowstorm to see snow on the surface of any major road.

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                          #92
                          It feels weird taking so long to update this thread but the Kia's been so reliable that I realized I only ever posted often to report things going to shit on my other cars....

                          No issues at all....it's been rock solid beyond normal maintenance items like oil changes, the rare light bulb change, etc. I plan to replace the cabin air filter come pay day, it's a dead easy task. Debating whether to go with a HEPA filter or not - i've heard mixed things about that route in terms of air flow, excess blower motor strain, etc. It would definitely be great for my allergies though.

                          I also plan to replace both rear tail lamp assemblies as they were cracked by whoever owned the thing before it was sent to auction.

                          At least one recall may be imminent for it - NHTSA and H/K are studying a airbag computer issue that causes non-deployment of the airbags and there's rumors that it'll be included in the 4 cylinder engine recall affecting other H/K products. So far, car isn't knocking but I'll keep an eye out for loud knocks/ticks at startup and during acceleration...

                          I've started using a aux cable instead of bluetooth audio streaming and I'm pleased with the radio's sound quality now. Plenty of punchy bass - my parents stock Sportage and my brother's Sonata was similarly well done in this dept so I guess it's just a H/K thing. Not that I'm complaining, saves me money.

                          Still getting 30+ AVG MPG on the highway according to the trip computer.

                          Beyond that, I'll continue to keep driving it. This summer I'll be driving it to Pittsburgh again but considering how well it performed before, along with the trips into MD/DC that I make regularly, it should continue to provide uneventful relaxing driving.

                          This'll be a litmus test I think - a lot of people couch H/K reliability especially at higher mileages. If you throw out a high mileage example, they'll go "well it was a one owner or exceptionally well taken care of." This thing has a largely unknown maintenance history and wasn't treated the best while in the care of it's prior owner.

                          It'll be a interesting ride.
                          "The way I see it a car enthusiast is somebody who is enthusiastic and interested about the motor car in all its various shapes and forms from supercars to East German 2-strokes made of cardboard. Everyone else is merely a car elitist IMO." ~ Captain 70's

                          Get out of my way! I have photocopiers to sell! ~ Perc

                          "A computer is a Lite-Brite for bad fucking ideas."

                          FinalGear's Dash-Stroking Whore

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                            #93
                            Since the last update:

                            Car continues to go and go. I've taken it to pittsburgh twice since the end of May and in both cases it's taken the drive in stride. It'll be going to Philly and back with 2 buddies along for the ride for concert carpool duties later this year. I want to get the interior detailed this upcoming spring and the seats steam cleaned. I would have no hesitation getting in it and driving across the country. That's something I couldn't say about the XJ sadly.

                            Inspection is due this month - I don't foresee any surprises save for usual wear items like perhaps brake pads.


                            "Issues:"
                            My keyfob ring broke so I am considering swapping the guts into a flip key shell - i just need to pull the trigger on the purchase - what's stopping me is listings being unclear about the kind of keyblade the key ships with - it looks like I need a "style 33" blade and while i could order a blade separately idk seems like work lol.

                            I have a loose wire in a taillight bulb holder that I need to have fixed when I take it in for inspection this month. I still need to get the actual housings replaced too...I just gotta devote a few hours to doing it once I figure out the procedure. KGIS access used to be free back in the day but like other brands that's no longer the case. I'll have to ask around on the Forte facebook groups, while most of those owners have coupes with the LED tails, surely someone has the hookup to either get the procedure or has removed the tails from a sedan.

                            The car is affected by the airbag ECU issue - for now I'm ok to drive it but if the airbag light does come on while driving, I'm (per the letter sent to me) to immediately drive to a Kia dealer if they're available and get a loaner vehicle.

                            I'll post back in a few more months I guess.
                            "The way I see it a car enthusiast is somebody who is enthusiastic and interested about the motor car in all its various shapes and forms from supercars to East German 2-strokes made of cardboard. Everyone else is merely a car elitist IMO." ~ Captain 70's

                            Get out of my way! I have photocopiers to sell! ~ Perc

                            "A computer is a Lite-Brite for bad fucking ideas."

                            FinalGear's Dash-Stroking Whore

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                              #94
                              Update time: The Forte continues do well - I've been on several long trips in it since the last update (DuBois PA and Philly twice) and it continues to shine. So nice knowing I have the freedom to travel without fear of a breakdown.

                              Inspection went well - needed front brake pads/rotors. I added a oil change and a parking brake adjustment to that. Aside from Inspection, I got new tires for it separately through a decent Amazon deal, changed out the cracked tail lamp housings for new ones - the new one included the pigtail that was water damaged so it was as easy as plugging and playing, and moved my key fob's guts to a new, non broken, shell.

                              The remedy has been found for the airbag ECU recall - I need to go to a dealer to get the pigtail installed - the only dealer with decent hours (read: saturday) is Lancaster Kia....so there it'll go one of these days.

                              That's it, it continues to just work like a modern car is expected to.

                              As new stuff comes out, I think about what I'll eventually replace it with. I hope to be in a better spot job and home wise in the next year....the new Mazda3's looking really good along with the Accord Sport 2.0T.

                              Not to say I wouldn't want a XJ as a number 2 to go along with that replacement.
                              "The way I see it a car enthusiast is somebody who is enthusiastic and interested about the motor car in all its various shapes and forms from supercars to East German 2-strokes made of cardboard. Everyone else is merely a car elitist IMO." ~ Captain 70's

                              Get out of my way! I have photocopiers to sell! ~ Perc

                              "A computer is a Lite-Brite for bad fucking ideas."

                              FinalGear's Dash-Stroking Whore

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