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    We have the same problem with immigration - everyone (Political Parties) is s*1t scared of the subject except the neo Nazis.

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      Swedish lession of the day:
      Val, the word for 'election' is a hononym for 'whale'.

      Thus ends the lession on this whale day.
      Last edited by AiR; September 19th, 2010, 12:14 PM.

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        Brussels challenges Arnold Schwarzenegger on death penalty: arrogant EU lectures America as if it were a third world tyrannyletter to California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, Vale de Almeida wrote:
        The European Union is opposed to the use of capital punishment under all circumstances and accordingly aims at its universal abolition, seeking a global moratorium on the death penalty as a first step. We believe that the elimination of the death penalty is fundamental to the protection of human dignity, and to the progressive development of human rights.

        The European Union considers that nations, which have not as yet abolished the use of capital punishment, should not impose this punishment when a de facto moratorium has been in place for an extended period. The execution of Mr. Brown would break the de facto moratorium in the State of California, where the last execution took place on January 17, 2006.

        The European Union also notes that on November 20, 2008, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a resolution on the death penalty, which reaffirms its Resolution adopted in December 2007, expressly asking all nations that still use the death penalty to institute a moratorium on executions with a view to abolishing the practice.

        No legal system is immune from error, nor is there any reliable evidence to support the argument that the death penalty is a deterrent to serious crime. We believe that any miscarriage of justice, or failure of the judicial system in the application of the death penalty, represents an irreparable loss of human life.

        Taking into account of these factors, we respectfully urge you, Governor, to continue the de facto moratorium currently in place within the State of California and to exercise all powers vested in your office to commute the sentence of Mr. Albert Greenwood Brown to life in prison.
        (Hat tip: Sally McNamara at The Foundryin full detail here.

        I hope that Governor Schwarzenegger sends the EU Ambassador a resounding hasta la vista on this matter, and that the citizens of California let Mr. Vale de Almeida know that they do not live in a far-flung province of the European Union and value their liberty and independence as part of the freest nation on earth.

        http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ni...world-tyranny/
        Those in the EU leadership need to realize that they are not the head of one supernation and it is not their place to lecture us. Unlike in many EU nations Californians elect the legislature, the governor, the chief prosecutors, and the chiefs of police. They are elected by people and in insulting them you are insulting us.
        "I saw myself founding a new religion, marching
        into Asia riding an elephant, a turban on my
        head and in my hands the new Koran I would
        have written to suit my needs." - Napoléon Bonaparte

        "More than 60,000 Germans fell, not beneath the
        Roman arms and weapons, but, grander far,
        before our delighted eyes. May the tribes, I pray,
        ever retain if not love for us, at least hatred for
        each other; for while the destinies of empire bear
        hard upon us, fortune can give no greater boon
        than discord among our foes." - Germania, Tacitus

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          There's nothing in that text that I consider to be offensive, it's merely stating the position of the European Union. The United States does the same all the time in case you havent noticed. Interestingly Nile Gardiner is a director (at something called the Margaret Thatcher Center) at the Heritage Foundation, which has a long tradition of putting their noses into foreign nations internal affairs as well as the affairs of single citizens. The Heritage Foundation does not want people to have sex before marriage, for example.

          Gardiner is also a frequent pundit on Fox News.

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            There's nothing "offensive" in there. Gardiner is just looking for an excuse to continue his butthurt tirade against the EU.
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              He can blow it out his arse. When did saying what you think about something in a country require you to be a citizen of said country?
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                Summary of the election is that there is no majority and the two minoritys will not be in the same room as SD. It'll be interesting. Sahlin needs to go, I voted for her party but people in general put much more emphasis on the person rather than the ideology these days.

                We need first and foremost a competent leader. A strong man. Sahlin was elected with her gender as her only qualification. We need someone to point out the way with a firm hand. A new Palme. Yet I'm pretty content with the stalemate. I trust that M will take responsibility and that in all important aspects cross bloc agreements will be made. Hopefully these terrible blocs will fall alltogether. And this should also make it much harder to sell out our state owned assets, which the righties would to fatten their own wallets if they could.
                Last edited by AiR; September 19th, 2010, 9:58 PM.

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                  Originally posted by jetsetter View Post
                  Those in the EU leadership need to realize that they are not the head of one supernation and it is not their place to lecture us. Unlike in many EU nations Californians elect the legislature, the governor, the chief prosecutors, and the chiefs of police. They are elected by people and in insulting them you are insulting us.
                  So you condemn Newt Gingrich, an unelected private individual, for insulting President Obama then?


                  Nations that have banned the death penalty regularly condemn the use of the death penalty in the US and other countries where it is still legal. This is a non-story.
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                    Originally posted by British_Rover View Post
                    Nations that have banned the death penalty regularly condemn the use of the death penalty in the US and other countries where it is still legal. This is a non-story.
                    Really, anything with Nile Gardiner is a non-story.
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                      So SD is in a majority with the righties? Why didn't greens take the offer, and join them?

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                        ^The greens are being pissy because they feel that the right-wingers have ignored them for the past four years!

                        Could be interesting this!

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                          IIRC, the EU does not allow extradition to the US if the person being extradited faces even the possibility of being executed.

                          The new EU Ambassador to Washington, Joao Vale de Almeida has already declared his bullish intention to speak for the whole of Europe at the expense of individual nation states.
                          That is because, as EU Ambassador, it is his fucking job!
                          As I grew older, I wanted to become like Jeremy Clarkson. Unfortunately, it appears that I'm turning into James May. On the plus side, I know that at least I can drive better than Richard Hammond.

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                            Whether there should be such a job - you and I are paying for - is totally another matter. FWIW I am fed up paying for these fools.

                            We pay 40 Million GBP per day to this lot of scounderels.

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                              Originally posted by AiR View Post
                              Summary of the election is that there is no majority and the two minoritys will not be in the same room as SD. It'll be interesting. Sahlin needs to go, I voted for her party but people in general put much more emphasis on the person rather than the ideology these days.

                              We need first and foremost a competent leader. A strong man. Sahlin was elected with her gender as her only qualification. We need someone to point out the way with a firm hand. A new Palme. Yet I'm pretty content with the stalemate. I trust that M will take responsibility and that in all important aspects cross bloc agreements will be made. Hopefully these terrible blocs will fall alltogether. And this should also make it much harder to sell out our state owned assets, which the righties would to fatten their own wallets if they could.
                              Originally posted by h-p View Post
                              So SD is in a majority with the righties? Why didn't greens take the offer, and join them?
                              "If you're not getting the picture you want, you're not close enough" - Robert Capa
                              "Your first 14000 pictures are your worst" - HCB
                              - David Bailey! Who's he?!
                              I am one of "the two most level headed and pragmatic regular posters on the politics forum" according to anonymous sources.
                              blog
                              Bustin' chops since the late 80s

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                                Originally posted by Cobol74 View Post
                                Whether there should be such a job - you and I are paying for - is totally another matter. FWIW I am fed up paying for these fools.
                                Sigh. We all pay for things we don't want or need. I don't think we should be in Iraq or Afghanistan, but my taxes pay towards part of it. I will be paying towards BBC Radio Scilly Isles as part of the licence fee, but that is fine by me because they pay for part of BBC Radio Lancashire. Swings and roundabouts.

                                We pay 40 Million GBP per day to this lot of scounderels.
                                per day to the EU. So, do you still think it costs us money?
                                As I grew older, I wanted to become like Jeremy Clarkson. Unfortunately, it appears that I'm turning into James May. On the plus side, I know that at least I can drive better than Richard Hammond.

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                                  You have two nationalist parties over there? Only thought you had Fremskritt. Or are the others not in, like with NSF/Folkfronten/Svenskarnas Parti (whatever they choose to call themselves now)?

                                  It'll be hard to work out an agreement between a bloc that wants to build more nuclear plants and a party that was created in opposition of nuclear power (MP), not to mention that C is the green party of the Alliance and they don't want to share that with the other, larger, green party. Interesting indeed. As for the Party, I think we need authoritarian leaders. The inverse style (Mona) isnt working at all.

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                                    Demokratene is made out of people who got excluded from the Progress Party in the late 90s/early 00s. We're talking about the days when Carl I. Hagen ran the Progress Party like his own company, he made the good'ol party secretaries in the social democratic parties look like pussycats, to put it politely. They were thrown out or excluded for very different reasons, usually for being either to liberal to attract voters, to big a challenge to King Carl or because they got too brown even for the Progress Party.

                                    Demokratene is a tiny party which only real base is in the Southern Agder-parts of Norway, they're relatively big there, but still haven't gotten close to a place in Stortinget (the parliament).
                                    "If you're not getting the picture you want, you're not close enough" - Robert Capa
                                    "Your first 14000 pictures are your worst" - HCB
                                    - David Bailey! Who's he?!
                                    I am one of "the two most level headed and pragmatic regular posters on the politics forum" according to anonymous sources.
                                    blog
                                    Bustin' chops since the late 80s

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                                      The new law governing pensions around here has been passed in one of the most fraudulent ways possible. The opposition left the debate, webcam images from the debate itself showed that there were merely 80-90 MPs in the hall at the time of the voting process... out of around 300-ish MPs in the lower chamber of Parliament.


                                      And the law was mysteriously passed with 160 votes "for", 2 "against" and 3 abstentions.



                                      I reiterate my request from Random Thoughts (the original one), someone please have mercy on us and bomb the Palace of Parliament and the Cotroceni Palace when the President and the Parliament are all at "work".
                                      Last edited by vikiradTG2007; September 22nd, 2010, 7:56 PM.
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                                        I like Top Gear. But I'm not a Top Gear snob.

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                                          , 1801-1850
                                          "I saw myself founding a new religion, marching
                                          into Asia riding an elephant, a turban on my
                                          head and in my hands the new Koran I would
                                          have written to suit my needs." - Napoléon Bonaparte

                                          "More than 60,000 Germans fell, not beneath the
                                          Roman arms and weapons, but, grander far,
                                          before our delighted eyes. May the tribes, I pray,
                                          ever retain if not love for us, at least hatred for
                                          each other; for while the destinies of empire bear
                                          hard upon us, fortune can give no greater boon
                                          than discord among our foes." - Germania, Tacitus

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