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GraemeH said:
I'm taking some comfort in the bookies leaning towards a "No", and YouGov a 54% no.



Mate we'll be fucking trading Irn-Bru bottle tops for currency if we've let the Nationalist Socialists have the power.
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:lol:

.. and I guess you'll miss the BBC on Friday too, when it's swirched off in Scotland. :sad: :p

narf said:
Y U NO exit polls?
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.. good question, there are normally loads.

jack_christie said:
For some reason no.

Have to wait till some time between about 5am and 8am UK before they have good indication of how its gone
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Maybe the exit polls got banned on smthng. :?
 
Heathrow said:
Maybe the exit polls got banned on smthng. :?
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I heard something that said they weren't bothering with exit polls, but there are some polls....

Live coverage:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...esults-live-coverage-of-the-independence-vote

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...st-as-scotland-decides-yes-or-no-9738657.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ish-independence-referendum-results-live.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-scotland-29130277

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-09-18/count-begins-in-scottish-independence-referendum/


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https://twitter.com/hashtag/indyref?src=hash

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ScotDecides?src=hash
 
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Page 3 and no mention of William Wallace? I'm disappointed.

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Last referendum we had here for our independence, the polls a few weeks before gave the YES a slight margin (I think 52/48, just like Scotland a few days ago).

What actually happened on the day of the poll is that undecided people tend to go for the Status Quo, so the No won, by a 51/49 margin.

I predict the same thing will happen here.
 
Firecat said:
Page 3 and no mention of William Wallace? I'm disappointed.

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Well...

BBC said:
[h=3]FALKIRK RESULT[/h]

Posted at 04:22
"No" wins by 58,030 votes to 50,489.
That is 53% for "No" and 47% for "Yes".
The total number of votes was 108,626 - a turnout of 88.7%.
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If that horrendously inaccurate movie did anything was at least using the names of the battles right, and if a place of such significance for Scottish independence like Falkirk said no, I think that's pretty much over.
 
Only two? If I remember, all of his movies circle around one main theme: How much can one man suffer?
 
Considering how bookies usually are quite reliable in predicting these kinds of things, the closeness - or even lean towards independence with all the hypothetical guessing-games - portrayed by the media likely never existed. A Yes/No question decided by over 10 points roughly matches what the bookies had...
 
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So what prevents them from organizing the referendum every year now? Repeat until the vote goes slightly over to the other side, once.
 
narf said:
Considering how bookies usually are quite reliable in predicting these kinds of things, the closeness - or even lean towards independence with all the hypothetical guessing-games - portrayed by the media likely never existed.
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Yeah that's true, it was clear that the separatists were certainly the louder. We considered that could be skewing the perception.
But it really was skewed for everyone in the country, not just the media. All you heard about was "Yes" in the run up to the vote. All your co-workers were talking "Yes" talk. You rarely found someone who was pro-union. Four times as many windows in the cities had "Yes" banners than had "No".

I hoped but wasn't sure it was just the "we're the loudest so we seem like the majority" effect. It's obviously been a bit hard for a lot to accept. All those Yes-ers are furious with various "You fucked it up you mongo's (sic)" and "I'm leaving this country" talk all over Facespace and whatnot.

As I said earlier, just a shame this division had to be put into peoples' minds.
 
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jack_christie said:
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A lot of people don't seem to realise that in the end, after all the wars and invasions, Scotland formed the United Kingdom with England voluntarily. Scotland bankrupted themselves by sinking all of their nation's wealth into a failed bid at imperialism in trying to set up a colony in what is now Panama. Tropical illness wiped the colony out and the Scottish economy with it. It was money that formed the United Kingdom, not conflict. I suspect that economic concerns are also what caused many to vote "no" yesterday as well.
 
MXM said:
So what prevents them from organizing the referendum every year now? Repeat until the vote goes slightly over to the other side, once.
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The Scottish Parliment (under SNP Goverment & Mayority) made this referendum happen. They can do it again, nothing really stops them. You know, apart from being elected representatives and asking the people again after already having gotten an answer will prob not really be a good thing for reelctions ...

Also this is now a big defeat for the SNP. They will prob not want to talk about this again in the near future ...
 
See Quebec.

First independence referendum : 1980

Second one : 1995

Third one : Who knows...
 
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