UnUnited Kingdom

Scotland will gain more independence from this via more devolution.
 
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Ah well, it's over - now the process really begins. Let's see how much of the promises the central UK government made to keep Scotland will actually be kept - and what those will start in the other parts of the UK. If all goes well*, the SNP will perhaps get exactly what they wanted in the first place. So far so good. :D

* It won't, because politics...
 
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Ding! Ding! Ding! Too bad rep is disabled in this forum.

.. I never knew that. :?

I knew the post count doesn't increase, like the Games Forum.

When I said earlier this would divide us...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202433758517846&set=vb.1610349991&type=2&theater
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29287409

George Square in Glasgow is basically a no-go zone for a few days methinks. What a national embarrassment.

Looks a bit ugly, but it's not a riot/punch up or anything yet, anyway. :unsure:
 
Its when they start emulating the ISIS people will have to worry.

Thought they were Rangers supporters.... Orange Order parade on Saturday..........

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If I were British I would be pushing for the UK to adopt a federal system where England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland become states/provinces.
 
They're officially countries, or, kingdoms, but isn't that the case already? Having union laws that apply to everyone, with other local laws depending on the smaller state?
 
Not quite. Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland all have their own parliaments with limited powers, but the UK Parliament still makes all the rules for England. At the moment they have half of a federal system.
 
Not quite. Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland all have their own parliaments with limited powers, but the UK Parliament still makes all the rules for England. At the moment they have half of a federal system.

Pretty much like Europe... It's not perfect, but so wasn't the Federal system in the US when it started, gotta iron out the kinks.
 
Games are now really afoot. Scotland has a parliament which deals with certain areas of policy. Those areas of policy are controlled by Westminster for the rest of the country.. however, Scottish MPs get to vote in Westmister on those issues even though the outcome will have no effect on their own constituents.

This paradox is called the West Lothian question, and it's an issue because of this map:

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In the past Scottish MPs from Labour have been able to force results on England while remaining personally unaffected, which is rather undemocratic. However, if the (mainly Labour and Lib Dem) MPs from Scotland can no longer vote on issues which don't affect them then there's a strong swing to the Conservatives.

Cameron has now tied further devolution for Scotland to the answering of the West Lothian question. This is very popular in England as the electorate are looking for a bit of balance after all this Scottish pandering, but puts Labour in an impossible position. Support the plan and lose power on English issues or stand against the plan and be seen as betraying Scotland and England at the same time.
 
Pretty much like Europe... It's not perfect, but so wasn't the Federal system in the US when it started, gotta iron out the kinks.

The USA is on it's second system of government.
 
In the past Scottish MPs from Labour have been able to force results on England while remaining personally unaffected, which is rather undemocratic. However, if the (mainly Labour and Lib Dem) MPs from Scotland can no longer vote on issues which don't affect them then there's a strong swing to the Conservatives.

Cameron has now tied further devolution for Scotland to the answering of the West Lothian question. This is very popular in England as the electorate are looking for a bit of balance after all this Scottish pandering, but puts Labour in an impossible position. Support the plan and lose power on English issues or stand against the plan and be seen as betraying Scotland and England at the same time.

The Scottish nationalist may have lost the independence referendum, but they won the election, they get more power and the Cameron has landed himself in a Constitution quagmire.


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