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    Swedish police cover up sexual assaults at Stockholm festival for two years

    Because the truth is obviously racist. At least that's what police decided.

    Originally posted by New York Times

    He denied there had been a cover-up, according to Swedish news reports, and he said that a police investigation was underway.

    David Brax, a researcher of hate crimes at the University of Goteborg, said by phone that the accusations would help agitate an already intensifying backlash toward immigrants as countries across Europe were grappling with fears that terrorists and criminals were seeking to enter the Continent by masquerading as refugees.

    He noted that the police might have hesitated to publicize the assaults for fear of stoking revenge attacks against immigrants.

    Until recently, Sweden and Germany, both wealthy countries with relatively generous welfare programs, have been among the most welcoming countries toward immigrants.

    Last week, Sweden introduced new identity checks for travelers arriving from Denmark, prompting its neighbor to impose new controls on people crossing the border with Germany. The moves by the two countries were the latest blow to borderless travel across much of the Europe, a cornerstone of European integration.

    Anxieties over immigration in Sweden intensified over the summer when a woman and her son were stabbed to death at an Ikea in Vasteras, and an asylum seeker from Eritrea whose request had been denied was charged with the crime. Refugee centers in several sites in Sweden have also been set on fire in recent months.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/wo...ref=world&_r=0

    Field day it is! Like often when a journalist who do not speak the language is made to do a piece, the NYT have missed a few things. Police sources are openly admitting the reason they didn't say anything is because it'd be politically inconvenient, and the officers on scene said they would never have let their daughters anywhere near the festival.

    A rundown of that here: http://nyheteridag.se/exposing-major...ral-stockholm/

    Where's that popcorn gif?
    Last edited by AiR; January 11th, 2016, 5:45 PM.

    #2
    This is what happens when you suddenly get to see women that aren't covered head to toe and actually have rights.



    Isn't it wonderful when government decides what is and is not offensive to its subjects? Political correctness is killing the civilized world.
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      #3
      Originally posted by LeVeL View Post
      This is what happens when you suddenly get to see women that aren't covered head to toe and actually have rights.
      it's worse, since these women are not "protected" and by that I mean property of their fathers/husbands/brothers it's ok to do w/e you want
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        #4
        Originally posted by LeVeL View Post
        Isn't it wonderful when government decides what is and is not offensive to its subjects? Political correctness is killing the civilized world.
        Indeed it is. This is getting quite a bit of media coverage abroad as well I've understand, which is nice to see. TotalBiscuit (internet celebrity) said this which of course is completely correct:
        Not every criticism of a culture is a *phobia. Cultural relativism as a concept is valid but not when you take it to the extreme. Yes I feel entirely ok with condemning countries that do oppressive things in the context of their culture and no I don't excuse them of that just because of said culture, religion or whatever. That is reasonable. Make the effort to understand empathise, learn about the culture, but don't give it a free pass on the problems you might think it has. Lemme put it this way. If saying "hey stop raping people" makes me or anyone else a racist, then call me a goddamn racist.
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          #5
          Heh, news this evening: an internal policy paper from the Swedish police have been dug up (read: handed over by disgruntled officers) where police are advised that they must not communicate indicators about the suspected perpetrators such as "length, skin colour, ethnic origin or nationality". No wonder they have a hard time catching people when they can't tell us how tall people are, how they look or what language they speak. Wow. Much failure.

          "The police are looking for a man about, about 180 cm... errr, I mean a person that is kind of average height with fair ski... no wait... errr... a person who is a human that spoke... errr... in connection with the murder of a bl... err, person at Karlaplan."
          Last edited by AiR; January 12th, 2016, 7:31 PM.

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            #6
            This is what happens when everyone starts worrying about being PC.
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              #7
              Originally posted by AiR View Post
              [...] No wonder they have a hard time catching people when they can't tell us how tall people are, how they look or what language they speak. Wow. Much failure.
              But
              Last edited by Interrobang; January 13th, 2016, 10:40 AM.

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                #8

                Good explanation of why . . .

                * trying to cover up a story that hurts your agenda,
                * getting caught,
                * then trying to spin the story as symptomatic of already-present homegrown sexism,
                * and finally targeting anyone calling you out for all the above, trying to paint them as racists and lump them in with neo-nazis

                . . . doesn't earn much trust or help your cause (yes, there are more reasons than the blindingly obvious ones).

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Interrobang View Post
                  There may be a misunderstanding on your part. Here (or rather in Germany) Police give any information they have when searching for someone.
                  Actually, what AiR said is actually already happening in other countries - specifically for PC purposes.

                  http://editions.lib.umn.edu/smartpol...nesota-to-sto/
                  http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/02/...matters-183027
                  http://rationalak.blogspot.com/2014/...ects-race.html

                  http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/...men-in-irvine/

                  From the comments:
                  https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/com..._from_readers/
                  http://missionlocal.org/2015/09/afte...cal-obscurity/
                  http://mu-warrior.blogspot.com/2007/...ect-crime.html
                  https://saboteur365.wordpress.com/20...pect-at-large/

                  Tons and tons more where that came from.
                  Last edited by Spectre; January 14th, 2016, 9:07 AM.

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                    #10
                    This is just silly. Let some heads roll, figuratively speaking, stop being silly in the future, adapt, and move on. Then try to explain why it happened. Boggles the mind.
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                      #11
                      Sargon does this video as a weekly variety feature, but this one's focused on the migrant assaults.



                      We now know there were around 2000 attackers and 1200 victims in Germany, almost none of which have seen (or will see) any justice whatsoever. Police statistics show skyrocketing migrant crime in 2015 even according to conservative (and deliberately underreported) estimates. All this info was leaked of course, because sadly the cover-up attempt just seems to be a perpetual default state of affairs. The perpetual misinformation campaign also continues with a government-funded documentary portaying attackers as caucasians.

                      Remember that the authorities and media failed to even acknowledge it happened until so many witnesses and victims spoke out on social media (to an instantly global audience) that no one could ignore it anymore. Without the internet, would you even believe the mass assaults happened, or dismiss them as neo-nazi lies?

                      Which brings us to the latter half of the video. It lists several instances of the government using "hate speech" to crack down on political dissent, including raids and prison sentences. I hope this makes it clear why several of us in the other thread oppose attempts to pretend hate speech is somehow special and separate from free speech, or more fundamentally, attempts (by anyone) to become the authority who gets to decide which speech is "hate speech" in the first place.


                      Originally posted by kunedog View Post
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SMfngZa1B4

                      Good explanation of why . . .

                      * trying to cover up a story that hurts your agenda,
                      * getting caught,
                      * then trying to spin the story as symptomatic of already-present homegrown sexism,
                      * and finally targeting anyone calling you out for all the above, trying to paint them as racists and lump them in with neo-nazis

                      . . . doesn't earn much trust or help your cause (yes, there are more reasons than the blindingly obvious ones).
                      european govts and press are still blatantly and repeatedly guilty on all four counts

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                        #12
                        It hurts my brain trying to understand all of this and it hurts my face when I finally facepalm after realizing it's not understandable, it's nonsense.

                        Why are european countries so hell bent into trying to pass as extremely accepting and immigrant friendly? Isn't that like reverse racism? Isn't true equality and acceptance, integration, judging all people the same way, no matter if they just walked through the border or if they can trace their lines to Bismarck?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by mpicco View Post
                          It hurts my brain trying to understand all of this and it hurts my face when I finally facepalm after realizing it's not understandable, it's nonsense.

                          Why are european countries so hell bent into trying to pass as extremely accepting and immigrant friendly? Isn't that like reverse racism? Isn't true equality and acceptance, integration, judging all people the same way, no matter if they just walked through the border or if they can trace their lines to Bismarck?
                          This is a core reason for the rose of right-wing parties in Germany, France, US (Trump), etc - we've gone too far with the fluffy accepting PC nonsense.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by mpicco View Post

                            Why are european countries so hell bent into trying to pass as extremely accepting and immigrant friendly? Isn't that like reverse racism? Isn't true equality and acceptance, integration, judging all people the same way, no matter if they just walked through the border or if they can trace their lines to Bismarck?
                            There are several issues at play here. This thread should be about police, crime, and racial profiling, but you are bringing in immigration policy into it. For decades immigration policies have not judged people the same way (if an English immigrant and a Vietnamese immigrant try to move to Portugal, would they be judged equally?).

                            There are rapists and murderers in any nation or group of peoples, and they should absolutely be in prison. But what we are seeing here is a few bad apples affecting how we perceive the entire group of "migrants." That's not really fair. But it's also not without historic precedent - not all Irish, Italian, German, etc. immigrants were model migrants when they first came to the U.S., and the actions of a few resulted in wide-spread campaigns to stop the flood of Irish, Italian, German, etc. people. We got through it eventually, and progress prevailed. And then came the Chinese immigrants...then the Mexican immigrants...point being that societies always find a scapegoat.

                            Find those who rape, those who kill, and send them to prison. But don't cast a dragnet around everyone who just happens to be born in the same place.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by _HighVoltage_ View Post
                              There are several issues at play here. This thread should be about police, crime, and racial profiling, but you are bringing in immigration policy into it. For decades immigration policies have not judged people the same way (if an English immigrant and a Vietnamese immigrant try to move to Portugal, would they be judged equally?).
                              If you mean judged as in placed in front of a judge for breaking the law, I would certainly hope so.

                              Originally posted by _HighVoltage_ View Post
                              Find those who rape, those who kill, and send them to prison. But don't cast a dragnet around everyone who just happens to be born in the same place.


                              That's what I'm saying, but I'm including a "positive" dragnet which judges people, in this case migrants, less harshly, because "oh poor people they're running away from war". They arrived, they're subject to the same laws, no cover ups, no hiding their dirt under the rug. I'm obviously talking about the bad apples here.
                              Last edited by mpicco; July 18th, 2016, 3:33 PM.

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by mpicco View Post
                                If you mean judged as in placed in front of a judge for breaking the law, I would certainly hope so.
                                For breaking the law - yes, absolutely.

                                For first entering the country...?
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                                  #17
                                  The problem isn't political correctness. Political correctness is a good thing. The problem is the self-appointed politeness police who consider it their jobs to enforce political correctness. They have no sense of context, irony, or basic common sense. Covering this up is not political correctness it's a fear of being called racist or "islamaphobic"( whatever that actually means ) by these people. They're capable of ruining careers and livelihoods just by tainting people with these pigeon-hole terms.

                                  They're the problem. Not political correctness in and of itself. Accepting people and tolerating them, within reason, is a perfectly valid and noble thing to aspire too. But it's being used by, for the most part left-wing, extremists to censor anything they don't like.

                                  Edit:

                                  Corrected spelling mistake.
                                  Last edited by xuri; July 18th, 2016, 3:44 PM.
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by _HighVoltage_ View Post
                                    But what we are seeing here is a few bad apples affecting how we perceive the entire group of "migrants."
                                    "A few bad apples" (as in, 2,000 in Cologne alone) when it comes to refugees = no problem!

                                    "A few bad apples" when it comes to racist cops (as in, pretending they are racist when shootings are justified in order to pad stats) = huge systematic issue and cops are racist pigs.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by _HighVoltage_ View Post
                                      For breaking the law - yes, absolutely.

                                      For first entering the country...?
                                      How is anyone being judged for entering the country? As long as its legal entry, then it's fine...

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by LeVeL View Post
                                        "A few bad apples" (as in, 2,000 in Cologne alone) when it comes to refugees = no problem!

                                        "A few bad apples" when it comes to racist cops (as in, pretending they are racist when shootings are justified in order to pad stats) = huge systematic issue and cops are racist pigs.

                                        2,000 bad apples (Cologne)....in a pool of 736,000 refugees in Germany = 0.0027. If that's not a minority, I don't know what is.

                                        Not to mention that there are currently 42 million refugees and asylum seekers worldwide. Incidents like Cologne paint all 42 million negatively.


                                        Originally posted by mpicco View Post
                                        How is anyone being judged for entering the country? As long as its legal entry, then it's fine...
                                        The criteria for legal entry are usually not fair to all people - some nations, populations, and occupations are privileged. Those are often determined by the economic needs of the nation state. And you know what, that would be fine, as long as you are transparent and open about it. Write it into the actual immigration policy - We will give preferential treatment to engineers and computer scientists. My problem is that the law right now is pretending to be fair and equal to all immigrants.
                                        Last edited by _HighVoltage_; July 18th, 2016, 4:13 PM.
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