The Trump Presidency - how I stopped worrying and learned to love the Hair

Blind_Io;n3544377 said:
"Girthers" are questioning Trump's fitness report. Trump claims to be 6'3" and 236#. Bullshit. I'm 6'4" and about 240# and, while not fit (it's something I'm working on), I don't look like the tub of lard that is Trump. First of all, I don't believe for a second he is 6'3", here is is next to Obama, who is 6'1". Trump is 6'0" or 6'1" at most.

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If this is the physique of a 6'3" 230# man I will eat my own ass. The big question is what else has he lied about? Supposedly the exam included a mental component, I want to know if it was a full mental health assessment or just seeing if Trump was oriented to person, place, time, and object.
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Quite. If you stick 6'0, 108kg and low activity levels into a bmi calc it scores 32.2 obese.
 
Interestingly, he seems to buy his pants in a length that would be appropriate if he was 6'3".
 
NecroJoe;n3544403 said:
Interestingly, he seems to buy his pants in a length that would be appropriate if he was 6'3".
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That's probably because he believes he is 6'3". He's delusional.
 
2 big Trump stories at the moment that really don't matter:

Trump and the Porn Star - Comedy show and gossip press gold, of course. But it doesnt matter. Even when you believe this and everything that being written and said about it - you are looking at consentual sex between two adults. Everything else is between him, her and his wife. Who cares when they all are ok with that ...

Trump's weight and height. Who the bloody hell cares? Even if he lies about that - that doesn't matter. Let him lie about that sort of stuff all day, that changes nothing.

The Guy does a lot of stuff worth talking about. And talking about these unimportant things only drags attention away from the stuff he does that really matters.
 
Interrobang;n3544422 said:
The Guy does a lot of stuff worth talking about. And talking about these unimportant things only drags attention away from the stuff he does that really matters.
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Hear Hear!

Although I must admit the non-news are hillarious, like that time there was an investigation of a truck blocking the view of a Golf Course.
 
Interrobang;n3544422 said:
2 big Trump stories at the moment that really don't matter:

Trump and the Porn Star - Comedy show and gossip press gold, of course. But it doesnt matter. Even when you believe this and everything that being written and said about it - you are looking at consentual sex between two adults. Everything else is between him, her and his wife. Who cares when they all are ok with that ...

Trump's weight and height. Who the bloody hell cares? Even if he lies about that - that doesn't matter. Let him lie about that sort of stuff all day, that changes nothing.

The Guy does a lot of stuff worth talking about. And talking about these unimportant things only drags attention away from the stuff he does that really matters.
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I disagree. A person's temperament and state of mind have everything to do with being POTUS, Trump has lied more in a year than any president I can remember has lied in their entire career in the White House. The fact that Trump's ego is so fragile that he has to lie about something as simple as his height is very telling. Everything to Trump is a dick measuring competition - from his tiny hands to his "bigger button"

Holding him accountable for his lies - regardless of how big (or small) is exactly what the press should be doing; it is their role in the country to do so. The more Trump lies the deeper a hole he digs for himself and ultimately it will be his lies and impassivity that will be his undoing.
 
North and South Korea are talking and Trump has nothing to do with it. Apple is the single most profitable company in the country and has been since long before Trump. The DOW has been on the rise since long before Trump took office and corporate profitability/stock prices are a pretty piss poor measure of economic growth for the average American because, to the surprise of no one, trickle down economics is a myth. The government is on the verge of a shutdown and the GOP is blaming the Democrats despite controlling both legislative houses and the White House - Trump still can't pull his own party together to keep the lights on.

Now, why don't you spin back a couple of weeks and address the revelations in "Fire and Fury" as well as all the other bombs that dropped that week - or did you think we forgot?
 
The thread is a reflection of the President.

The Government shut down is a reflection of the GOP that is control of both Houses of Congress and the Presidency. It is clear to me that the Trump is also part of the problem with this. He had several Democrats willing to sign a bill that only benefited their wants in one way, and then Trump went back on his promise to sign whatever the Congress would pass that included protection for DACA kids.
 
LeVeL;n3544532 said:
I was told that y'all were questioning my absence. Let's see... Apple is creating 20,000 new jobs and adding $350bil to the economy; North and South Korea are talking; the DOW hit 26,000; economists come out crediting Trump with economic growth; we're hours away from a government shutdown; and you're all deep in a conspiracy theory about Trump's height. This is why I don't bother posting in this dumpster fire of a thread anymore.
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I have no doubt that there are many companies that are veering in directions different than where they were before this "teax reform", but also...

WalMart closed many Sam's Club locations and 11,000 thousands of jobs

North Korea and South Korea have only been not talking for 2 years-ish and seems cyclical (they've even gone to the olympics together before)

My girlfriend is a contractor for Apple, and when she recently saw a headline about their 'sudden expension' she said, "I wonder if it's that project that's been in planning since I started working here on 2013?" Apple also says, "Let me be clear: There are large parts of this that are a result of the tax reform, and there's large parts of this we would have done in any situation."

That $350m apples said they are adding to the economy comes from business as usual, buying from other US companies. It's not an additional $350 OVER what they invested previously per year. Their normal investment is $270-ish million.

The rest is the tax bill they they are paying on their overseas profits. I'm not sure that is necessarily a good thing. The city of Oakland keeps going back and forth on making businesses with an HQ in Oakland pay the city taxes on profits they make elsewhere...and it's turning companies away who would have moved jobs there. It seemed like there as going to be a mass exodus of SF companies to Oakland (Including two of my clients), but that fizzled once they looked into what it would cost them, even though it initially looked 'cheaper'.

US auto manufacturing jobs continue to drop. Jobs added for 2017 was 2,000,000...which is lower than 2016, 2015 and 2014 (which does make sense since unemployment is low, but still an interesting statistic out of context). Wage growth continues to be sluggish, and companies are giving bonuses because of the tax reform instead of raises because they are not confident that things will stay "better", and increased wages are an on-going cost that doesn't get as much PR.
 
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Come on, let's see the positive side: today we survived one year of Trump in office, but only just, there's (hopefully) "just" three (or less) years to come...
 
To the supporters of Berlusconi, each and every good thing that came along when he was Prime Minister was credited on him, and the bad things were described as being less bad than they would otherwise be, or heritage of "the left".

The inability to seriously criticize any aspect of Trump, and the following necessity to rationalize the impossible, are a telltale sign of sectarism.
 
Blind_Io;n3544544 said:
North and South Korea are talking and Trump has nothing to do with it.
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Aside from SK president giving him credit you mean? - https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...ng-hold-summit-north-leader-kim/#.WmNQjXWnGV4
Apple is the single most profitable company in the country and has been since long before Trump.
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Yet has specifically credited Trump's tax plan with their decision to repatriate $350Bn
The DOW has been on the rise since long before Trump took office
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Economists disagree with you
and corporate profitability/stock prices are a pretty piss poor measure of economic growth for the average American because, to the surprise of no one, trickle down economics is a myth.
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That's debatable, Walmart has said they are increasing all wages due to the new lower corporate tax plan.
The government is on the verge of a shutdown and the GOP is blaming the Democrats despite controlling both legislative houses and the White House - Trump still can't pull his own party together to keep the lights on.
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Maybe if government learned to to not waste our money then it wouldn't need to increase deficit but that's a larger issue than whoever is in the office.

Despite what you may think I'm not a Trump supporter, I don't like his methods and tactics and I think he has way too little knowledge of the world at large, but sometimes he gets shit right
 
South Korea needs US support and backing in the region, we are also a major trade partner. Trump is a narcissist, flatter him to stay on his good side, Trump isn't brokering these talks and is not "hands on" in any way.
 
Blind_Io;n3544583 said:
South Korea needs US support and backing in the region, we are also a major trade partner. Trump is a narcissist, flatter him to stay on his good side, Trump isn't brokering these talks and is not "hands on" in any way.
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Certainly a possibility. Though NK is interested in talking now and wasn?t before so something changed?

P.S. I still need to read the fire and fury book
 
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narf;n3544584 said:
It doesn't take an economist to read a chart.
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Takes one to understand how that chart was created and what impact policies would have on it. I can read a wiring diagram doesn?t mean I understand it all
 
prizrak;n3544630 said:
P.S. I still need to read the fire and fury book
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Personally, I think there are some fundamental credibility problems with that book. Never mind the factual errors, the entire thing is based on unsourced hearsay. Normally I wouldn't consider that alone a compelling reason to not believe something, but Trump is such an insanely polarizing figure, that it really has brought out the partisanship in people. Then there is the fact that the author himself has apparently made comments about hoping his book spells the end of the Trump presidency, so even his partisanship is now on full display.

In the end I think the book is a lightning rod for confirmation bias. Those that believe it only do so because they desperately want it to be true. Those that believe it's nothing but lies and slander only do so because they desperately want that to be true.

I don't have any plans on reading the book myself, because I'm not at all confident in my own ability to do so objectively.
 
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