The Trump Presidency - how I stopped worrying and learned to love the Hair

LeVeL;n3552524 said:
I've been staying out of this thread the last few months because it's such a leftist dumpster fire.
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Same old, same old. :yawn: You're obviously stuck in the era of left-vs-right, just like all the other suckers whose gullibility Trump is exploiting so successfully.
 
So you called him in because...you needed someone to rally against?
 
LeVeL;n3552524 said:
:wave: You called?

I've been staying out of this thread the last few months because it's such a leftist dumpster fire. I've realized that nothing I post will change anyone's opinion (which is ironic, considering that I've been accused of never changing my opinion even though I have).

All I know is that:
-T​​he economy is doing fantastic;
​​​​-Black and Hispanic unemployment is at an all-time low (although the hippie I just met in Vermont this past weekend would say that it's a bad thing);
​​​​​​-Trump's approval rating among blacks has rised from single digits to 36%;
-Gay marriage is still legal;
-Abortions are still legal;
-NK is de-nuking and we've brought back fallen Americans;
-The Middle East is uniting against Iran, probably the largest sponsor of terrorism;
-Mueller's year and a half long investigation has turned up nothing at all on Trump;
-How the trade war with China oans out remains to be seen.

​​​​​​Meanwhile the left is:
-Opposing free speech by banning conservatives across most social media platforms;
-Fanning racism by putting down any black person who dares to think against the progressive grain (e.g. Kanye West, Candice Owens, Maj Toure, etc);
-Violently attacking Trump supporters and harrassing them in public;
-Defending violent offenders and gangs;
-Supporting socialism and open borders;
-Threatening people with jail time for using straws;
-Freaking out over silly things like bump stocks and 3D printed guns for no real reason.
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If you recall, I didn't like Trump at first. But the left has gone absolutely fucking insane and Trump is doing a really great job. It's amusing how tightly wadded your panties are in this thread but I'm too busy to pay attention to your crap. This is my first post here in months and also my last one for a long time. Y'all enjoy your Trump Derangement Syndrome now.
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What about Trump threatening not only Free Speech, but the Free Press? Does it not bother you that he continues with his "Fake News" comments on a regular basis?

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In reference to the Mueller investigation. How do you not tie Cohen's guilty plea directly to the campaign?
 
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GRtak;n3552529 said:
In reference to the Mueller investigation. How do you not tie Cohen's guilty plea directly to the campaign?
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Or Manafort's multiple convictions?
 
GRtak;n3552529 said:
What about Trump threatening not only Free Speech, but the Free Press? Does it not bother you that he continues with his "Fake News" comments on a regular basis?

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In reference to the Mueller investigation. How do you not tie Cohen's guilty plea directly to the campaign?
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Trump is now an unindicted co-conspirator, and getting closer to a Sealed Indictment....
 
LeVeL;n3552534 said:
I see that you still talk a lot without saying anything. I figured you wouldn't even attempt to address any of the points presented in my post.
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How is one line on an internet forum "talking a lot"?
 
LeVeL;n3552534 said:
Trump talks way too much, of course, with his threats of Mueller and that he could parson himself and all that other nonsense, but that's what Trump always does - you need to look at his actions more than listen to his words.
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Exactly. He continues to talk way too much, lying way too much, insulting way too much and taking the USA away from almost all of its allies around the world, reducing the US credibility and political persuasive power, dividing the american people, trying to solve problems with an obsolete mindset.

Those are all -actions-.
 
LeVeL;n3552534 said:
He has not threatened free speech or free press with any government action, so the 1A remains safe .You might have an argument on this front with regards to him challenging Facebook earlier this week but even then there might be a legitimate argument there and it will go in front of a judge. Trump isn't using his executive power to shut anyone down.
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But he has threatened the press, including wanting to force news broadcasters to have their license revoked.

And where is the threat to the First Amendment in the King of Fake News(Alex Jones) being banned from a social media platform? He does have the Freedom to spout whatever nonsense he wants. They have rules laid out, and he violated their rules, so they have a right to remove him from their service. That is far different from the President of the United States of America saying, or Tweeting that broadcasting licenses should be revoked.
 
All I know is that:
-T​​he economy is doing fantastic;(as long as you are in the top percent or a big corporation, the rest still have not seen any significant wage growth. Plus the economy is being funded by a massive spending deficit, which can't be sustained. Oh, and we are conveniently forgetting that the economy was doing very well without the deficit spending when Obama was in office.)
​​​​-Black and Hispanic unemployment is at an all-time low (although the hippie I just met in Vermont this past weekend would say that it's a bad thing); (General unemployment is low and this has been the trend since Obama. Unfortunately Trump is trying to fix that with his stupid trade war.)
​​​​​​-Trump's approval rating among blacks has rised from single digits to 36%; (Trump is still the least popular president of all time at this point in his term, beating Gerald Ford by a net score of over 15 points)
-Gay marriage is still legal; (By SCOTUS ruling, nothing Trump can do about it until he's done packing the court.)
-Abortions are still legal; (By SCOTUS ruling, nothing Trump can do about it until he's done packing the court.)
-NK is de-nuking and we've brought back fallen Americans; (Uhh, no, they aren't)
-The Middle East is uniting against Iran, probably the largest sponsor of terrorism;("Uniting?" No. This is just a continuation of the tribal warfare that has been going on for centuries.)
-Mueller's year and a half long investigation has turned up nothing at all on Trump; (Maybe you haven't seen the news...)
-How the trade war with China oans out remains to be seen. (You mean the Trade War that literally EVERY SINGLE expert except one hack that was recruited to the White House via Amazon.com says is a bad thing? Or the one that will cost us between 100,000 and 400,000 American jobs, raise costs for the American consumer, and has already resulted in layoffs? That Trade War? Yeah, going swimmingly)

​​​​​​Meanwhile the left is:
-Opposing free speech by banning conservatives across most social media platforms; (Show me government action that is doing this. Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc are not public spaces, they are private companies and private property, they can allow or prohibit whatever they want. As opposed to Trump saying that the free press is the enemy of the people, a statement countered by a unanimous resolution that this is not the case. Or Trump kicking out reporters and inciting his base to harass the press he doesn't like.)
-Fanning racism by putting down any black person who dares to think against the progressive grain (e.g. Kanye West, Candice Owens, Maj Toure, etc);(Seriously? White Nationalists are literally killing people and you accuse the Left of fanning racism? Are you serious?)
-Violently attacking Trump supporters and harrassing them in public; (*cough*Charlottsville*cough*. Or are you referring to the Unite the Right that is literally Nazis. We settled this, the Nazis are wrong.)
-Defending violent offenders and gangs; (Citation Needed)
-Supporting socialism and open borders; (You mean things like healthcare for everyone and the immigration that is necessary for our economy to grow - the immigration that built the economy we have? That immigration? As opposed to Trump's administration that is actively arresting people for trying to use the legal process of immigration?)
-Threatening people with jail time for using straws; (Uh, gonna needs a citation for that, chief.)
-Freaking out over silly things like bump stocks and 3D printed guns for no real reason. (Yeah, I agree with that one)
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Y'all enjoy your Trump Derangement Syndrome now.

Not actually a thing, if this is "all you know" then you really need to get out of your echo chamber and start listening to evidence and experts rather than talking heads and pundits.
 
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Lanny Davis, attorney for former Donald Trump attorney Michael Cohen, tells Rachel Maddow that Cohen has knowledge that should be of interest to Robert Mueller
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[video=youtube;tDfrZMGwQ-A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDfrZMGwQ-A[/video]


Michael Avenatti tells Lawrence O'Donnell that "This president is in trouble and we're coming for him"
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And the hits just keep on coming!


But, this is just a witch hunt! Look at Joseph McCarty and now we have Mueller.
 
At this point Trump seems to be adopting the legal strategy of inundating the investigators with an orgy of evidence; interesting legal ploy.
 
Blind_Io;n3552558 said:
At this point Trump seems to be adopting the legal strategy of inundating the investigators with an orgy of evidence; interesting legal ploy.
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