I say we go the other way - make everyone ride a 250cc motorcycle for the first two years on the road. Reduce traffic, and everyone will have to know what it's like to be on two-wheels (and how to drive a manual).
I say we go the other way - make everyone ride a 250cc motorcycle for the first two years on the road. Reduce traffic, and everyone will have to know what it's like to be on two-wheels (and how to drive a manual).
I really don't like motorbikes, but I think instead of banning them we should be allowed to open our car doors when they try to squeeze past. 2 strokes are nasty things though, and are usually ridden by chavs. So get rid of shitty mopeds and trial bikes but keep all other bikes, especially Harleys.
That whole bike for 2 years thing is a stupid idea, and if it was the case I wouldn't have learnt to driv... ride. Some of us don't care about bikes and will not want them forced upon us. Anyway you're more likely to be killed on a bike, so is it really a good idea to put all the new learners out there on them... No.
I've got to disagree with you man. That's just too extreme. A lot of people just don't care to ride bikes, plus there are plenty of places were you can't ride year round. It would be nice if more people could empathize with motorcyclists, but forcing people to ride isn't the way to do it.Blind_Io said:I say we go the other way - make everyone ride a 250cc motorcycle for the first two years on the road. Reduce traffic, and everyone will have to know what it's like to be on two-wheels (and how to drive a manual).
Multiply that 'fear', or sensation of speed by 10. The upshot is that you are so much more aware of your surroundings and just how agile you are on a bike. That more than makes up for any fear, at least in my fairly limited experience.*I do not know what this is like, the closest I've been is a Jeep with no doors, but I have an idea.
If I was lane-splitting, which is legal in a lot of places, and someone door jacked me, I would kill them . Just thinking about someone doing that pisses me off, if it happened and I could still stand ... I would, without a doubt, stab them, strangle them and pummel them to death in their own car.I really don't like motorbikes, but I think instead of banning them we should be allowed to open our car doors when they try to squeeze past. 2 strokes are nasty things though, and are usually ridden by chavs. So get rid of shitty mopeds and trial bikes but keep all other bikes, especially Harleys.
If I was lane-splitting, which is legal in a lot of places, and someone door jacked me, I would kill them . Just thinking about someone doing that pisses me off, if it happened and I could still stand ... I would, without a doubt, stab them, strangle them and pummel them to death in their own car.
Why don't you just stand on the side of the road with a big bat and whack at every motorcyclist that comes by
Don't know why, you shouldn't be queue jumping in the first place. It's like going to the front of a supermarket queue because you have a narrow trolley. It's just not going to wash. Fair enough where police bikes are concerned and pedal bikes but motorcyclists should use the road like everyone else.
And because of this very irritating habit people in cars are going to get pissed and do something like I mentioned.
By the way I'm not saying I want to kill motorcyclists at all. Okay maybe I want to chain their wheels together instead.
Even where lane splitting is LEGAL? I don't have a problem with motorcyclists lane splitting and I am not one. As long as they don't get in my way farther up the road, then I really couldn't care less.
Following the publication of evidence submitted to the Transport Select Committee on behalf of ACPO and recent media reports, David Griffin, Deputy Chief Constable of Humberside Police and ACPO lead on motorcycle safety said:
?ACPO does not advocate the prohibition of motorcycle use on public roads. It is nonsense to suggest that ACPO is seeking a ban on motorcycles, given that most police forces in the UK actively deploy and consider motorcycles to be a key part of their transport infrastructure.
?ACPO?s evidence to the Select Committee referred to consideration of restrictions on the use of off-road motorcycles in environmentally sensitive areas where noise and environmental damage have arisen as a significant concern to local communities. This evidence was given in response to a specific request for ideas for potential future consideration and has not been developed into a formal ACPO position. It is not intended to suggest restrictions on the access of law-abiding road-using motorcyclists to areas of outstanding natural beauty or national parks.
?In evidence to the Transport Select committee on motorcycling in 2006, ACPO specifically supported the environmental and congestion benefits that power two-wheelers can bring. ACPO does not have a position on imposing specific power limits on motorcycles and supports the industry?s voluntary code on top speed restriction. Alongside a range of other road safety bodies in the UK and Europe, ACPO believes it may be appropriate in future to consider restriction on high-powered machines with extraordinarily high top speed capabilities.
?As a body ACPO is committed to working closely with the Industry, the Standards Agency, Motorcycle Trainers? Association and riding groups such as the BMF and MAG to collectively consider sensible measures and policies that can reduce the unacceptable misery and catastrophic loss caused by the excessively high casualty and death rates of motorcyclists in the UK, whilst at the same time preserving a legitimate form of transport for both leisure and work purposes.
?I hope this provides clarification and removes any doubt and confusion over ACPO?s position on motorcycle safety.?
Motorcycle Trainers? Association and riding groups such as the BMF and MAG to collectively consider sensible measures and policies that can reduce the unacceptable misery and catastrophic loss caused by the excessively high casualty and death rates of motorcyclists in the UK
Don't know why, you shouldn't be queue jumping in the first place. It's like going to the front of a supermarket queue because you have a narrow trolley. It's just not going to wash.
There was an interview with the guy that's in charge of speedcameras in Sweden.
And he said that there are fewer % that are speeding on bikes that in cars..
And that's despite the fact that bikes cannot be fined by speedcameras here..
^Most bikers don't need to stop for the police since they aren't breaking any traffic-laws...
Bikers who speed generally don't stop for the police.
Bikers who speed generally don't stop for the police.
Yeah, those damned bikers! Bunch of lawless hooligans!Bikers who speed generally don't stop for the police.
Your metaphor is an absolute failure, you're an idiot and you should get the fuck out of this thread as you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Instead of them jumping ahead of you in line. It's like they have their own cashier, which allows them to get through quicker, yes, but it also means you don't have to wait for them, it's one less person in your way.