Watchmen

[Dogbert]

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I'm not going to argue whether the movie was good in terms of quality, as it's obviously made for a niche group (i.e. people who appreciate the comic)... but from a general audience standpoint, I'm not surprised by that at all. It's also plummeting down the IMDb rankings now that the hype is wearing off.

 

[Dr_Grip]

What would you call it? It's not a porno, it's not a comedy, it's not a romance movie, it's not a children's movie, it's not a documentary...doesn't really leave too much..

There is something apart from "genre" movies. What is classified under the catch-all term "drama", if forced.

That said, i saw it tonight. I loved the soundtrack, loved the action. Zack Snyder can't direct serious conversations if forced at point blank, which worsens my general problem with accepting superheroes as characters with real problems and personality. Watchmen was not as bad as Nolan's emo Batman in this aspect, but personally, the amount of serious character development i accept in superhero movies is pretty much what's happening in Iron Man or Ghost Rider: none.

All in all fun three hours but definitely nowhere near Movie of the year. Both The Wrestler and Gran Torino (which started in February over here) are ahead by now, with Gran Torino taking the lead.

And i don't know what's so bad about blue penis you homophobes, can't see anyone complaining about green boobs in the upcoming Star Trek film

 

[edkwon]

And i don't know what's so bad about blue penis you homophobes, can't see anyone complaining about green boobs in the upcoming Star Trek film

My opinion is, those who were obsessed with complaining about blue penises in the film, paid so much attn because they *wanted* to.

I was a little more interested in....the story, action and dialogue.

 

[Dogbert]

My opinion is, those who were obsessed with complaining about blue penises in the film, paid so much attn because they *wanted* to.

I was a little more interested in....the story, action and dialogue.

Or, alternatively, the blue penises in the film held more attention than the story, action, or dialogue.

 

[Redliner]

Or, alternatively, the blue penises in the film held more attention than the story, action, or dialogue.

I want to know how much of those people complaining/only caring about the blue penis in the movie would be all "Fuck you Hollywood! He was naked in the graphic novel! Don't destroy it! Blah blah blah!" if Zack Snyder decided not to show Dr. Manhatan's private parts.

 

[Dr_Grip]

I want to know how much of those people complaining/only caring about the blue penis in the movie would be all "Fuck you Hollywood! He was naked in the graphic novel! Don't destroy it! Blah blah blah!" if Zack Snyder decided not to show Dr. Manhatan's private parts.

I know: ALL of them.

 

[Dogbert]

You know how I know they're gay?

They want to sit through three hours of big blue dongs on a huge screen.
</40 year old virgin>

 

[nate_bartlet]

actually i honestly didn't really notice it. i saw them in the film, since they were in the comic book i wasn't really bothered by it. it didn't get in the way of the story being told and it wasn't like anybody in the film went "holy smeg look at the size of his sausage! why's it blue anyway? you been using it so much its cut off the blood circulation?"

 

[edkwon]

Or, alternatively, the blue penises in the film held more attention than the story, action, or dialogue.

For the moviegoers with little brains, I can definitely believe.

'These superheroes aren't cool at all, why do they talk so much? What's going on? Oh look! His big blue cock is swinging around!! *snicker*'


Yep, i'm sure thats what many of the penis-obsessed were thinking, while the rest of us were actually focused on the movie.

 

[Redliner]

Watched it yesterday...Liked it a lot! I see that someone who hand't read the graphic novel could get confused in some parts, but it's a great movie nonetheless. When the credits started rolling, my girlfriends said to me: "I want a Comediant action figure and Rorschach scares me!" :lol:

 

[Dr_Grip]

"I want a Comedian action figure"

With Watchmen bombing at the Box Office and Zack Snyder appaled by the ideal, a Watchmen sequel seems highly unlikely by now, but if there would be one, i'd want it to be:

Watchmen Origins: The Comedian

The Comedian is not really a likeable character, but he's a cool badass. Except for the attempted rape, he is Watchmen's Jack Bauer. He is Duke Nukem. Right down to the cigar. Just imagine a movie based on his life.
We see him on the Grassy Knoll, shooting JFK, not only as a quick cutaway, but with him planting a gun on Lee Harvey Oswald and everything, we see him shooting civilians in My Lai, doing away with Woodward and Bernstein, we witness how he kills Elvis (after his obvious substance abuse became an embarassment for Nixon's "War On Drugs), we see him fix the Ali-Frazier fight, Stabbing the Roswell aliens, we see The Comedian at the center of every major polotical conspiracy...
...and don't get me started about all the things that got blamed on Ollie North!

Think of "Forrest Gump" with less stupidity and running, but more shooting, cynicism and gore.

There is a wonderful X-Files episode along this lines, even parodying the "Life's a box of chocolates"-speech, portraying the Cigarette-Smoking Man doing every dirty deed that has ever been blamed on a political conspiracy...

Of course, this film would be a very black comedy, after all, it's about a comedian. Final words would be, if i get my will:

October 12th 1985. Tonight, a comedian died in New York.

 

[edkwon]

With Watchman bombing at the Box Office and Zack Snyder appaled by the ideal, a Watchman sequel seems highly unlikely by now, but if there would be one, i'd want it to be:

Watchman Origins: The Comedian

The Comedian is not really a likeable character, but he's a cool badass. Except for the attempted rape, he is Watchman's Jack Bauer. He is Duke Nukem. Right down to the cigar. Just imagine a movie based on his life.
We see him on the Grassy Knoll, shooting JFK, not only as a quick cutaway, but with him planting a gun on Lee Harvey Oswald and everything, we see him shooting civilians in My Lai, doing away with Woodward and Bernstein, we witness how he kills Elvis (after his obvious substance abuse became an embarassment for Nixon's "War On Drugs), we see him fix the Ali-Frazier fight, Stabbing the Roswell aliens, we see The Comedian at the center of every major polotical conspiracy...
...and don't get me started about all the things that got blamed on Ollie North!

Think of "Forrest Gump" with less stupidity and running, but more shooting, cynicism and gore.

There is a wonderful X-Files episode along this lines, even parodying the "Life's a box of chocolates"-speech, portraying the Cigarette-Smoking Man pulling the trigger on Kennedy and so on...

Of course, this film would be a very black comedy, after all, it's about The Comedian. Final words would be, if i get my will:

October 12th 1985. Tonight, a comedian died in New York.

Agreed, if anyone deserved a spinoff story it would be him. Jeffery Dean Morgan did an excellent job making him dispicable, yet sympathetic at the same time. I love complex, conflicted characters like that who have a code of beliefs that he adheres to til the bitter end.

 

[nate_bartlet]

The Comedian is one of Alan Moore's best characters in how he takes a character who has every aspect of being the villain but by the end and when you've learned more about his character he seems to be the more 'human' in the watchmen world.
To tell the truth i wouldn't mind a film about the Comedian, Alan Moore's Watchmen comic has tons of backstory behind it and its a good gold mine to generate more interest in the films. I mean they could even do a film about the 1940's superhero's of Nite Owl, Sally Jupiter, Hooded Justice, Captain Metropolis, the Comedian and Silouhette along with Moth Man and that poor hero who got his cape caught in the door.
As long as they stayed true to the source material i wouldn't have a problem with it. Since the Watchmen film and comic both end as they should be, i wouldn't want to see anything that tries to explain 'what happened next...'

 

[Dogbert]

For the moviegoers with little brains, I can definitely believe.

'These superheroes aren't cool at all, why do they talk so much? What's going on? Oh look! His big blue cock is swinging around!! *snicker*'


Yep, i'm sure thats what many of the penis-obsessed were thinking, while the rest of us were actually focused on the movie.

Actually, railing on the amount of blue penis is just a joke for me. I could actually tear into your beloved movie, with all of its plot holes and flat characters, but I have to go bang some rocks together and crap while walking because I don't have a huge brain/aren't a pretentious douchebag.

 

[Holiace]

I really liked the movie. However, some moments were unnecessarily goofy.

 

[cvrefugee]

Actually, railing on the amount of blue penis is just a joke for me. I could actually tear into your beloved movie, with all of its plot holes and flat characters, but I have to go bang some rocks together and crap while walking because I don't have a huge brain/aren't a pretentious douchebag.

 

[JohnnyRacer]

Sequel won't happen. Only staying #1 for one weekend is the sure death of any franchise trying to get off the ground. That's just a fact.

 

[Dr_Grip]

Sequel won't happen. Only staying #1 for one weekend is the sure death of any franchise trying to get off the ground. That's just a fact.

I'm with you on that, eventhough i think a Comedian movie like the one i outlined would be a) MUCH more fun, more Iron Man/Ghost Rider, less Dark Knight and b) a bigger hit at the box office. But still, you're right, it won't happen. Which is sad cause c) most of all, it would piss off the fanboys.

 

[edkwon]

Actually, railing on the amount of blue penis is just a joke for me. I could actually tear into your beloved movie, with all of its plot holes and flat characters, but I have to go bang some rocks together and crap while walking because I don't have a huge brain/aren't a pretentious douchebag.

I know you were joking, I was making a rip on other ppl too stupid to give any feedback other than penises. because i quoted you doesnt mean I was directing it towards you The world doesn't revolve solely around you you know.


oh and for those that haven't seen, a clip from the long lost 1990s sat morning animated pilot

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Dogbert]

I'm with you on that, eventhough i think a Comedian movie like the one i outlined would be a) MUCH more fun, more Iron Man/Ghost Rider, less Dark Knight and b) a bigger hit at the box office. But still, you're right, it won't happen. Which is sad cause c) most of all, it would piss off the fanboys.

I'll +1 that, too. They did a good job of making him a completely despicable but likable fuckscoff.

I still think we should have gotten movies about each of these characters and then had this movie; a lot like what they're doing with the Avengers.

because i quoted you doesnt mean I was directing it towards you

lolwut :?