US Fiesta

[AiR]

Yo dawg I heard u like chrome so we put chrome in your grille so you can watch your grille in your grille

 

[Steve Levin]

I don't think a trunk actually provides any additional usable space. Comparing the trunks I know to the hatches I know, what little extra space you get is further back and difficult (if not impossible) to reach.

Maybe in a car with a huge trunk, but in a Fiesta/Jetta/Focus/Corolla you definitely get a lot more usable space. And difficult to reach is better than leaving two people behind.

Steve

 

[NecroJoe]

The hatch still looks good. But the sedan's grill? What the hell?

I get it!!! I understand! Ford is effin' clever!!

Step 1:
Bring the Fiesta over because it's great

Step 2:
Make a sedan because "Americans aren't ready for hatches yet."

Step 3:
Make the sedan so ugly that anyone who still wants one after seeing it will end up wanting the hatch.

Step 4:
?????

Step 5:
Profit.

Step 6:
Take credit for finally turning Americans into hatch-buyers.

 

[jetsetter]

The sedan was made for the Chinese I believe.

 

[AiR]

https://pic.armedcats.net/k/kn/knarkas/2009/11/30/2009-2010-ford-fiesta-sedan-guangzhou-auto-show-1.jpg

 

[2Billion]

Maybe in a car with a huge trunk, but in a Fiesta/Jetta/Focus/Corolla you definitely get a lot more usable space. And difficult to reach is better than leaving two people behind.

Steve

If you can't reach it, it's not usable. If you can't get it in the trunk, it's not usable. Perhaps my Escort was particularly awful - though the trunk had a bigger opening than the Focus (makes a postage slot seem improbably spacious) and Corolla - but if you seriously believe they have usable space you've never actually tried to get anything into the average compact sedan.

As for the "leaving two people behind", you need a lot of luggage before you need to knock the seats down on the vast majority of hatchbacks.

 

[narf]

The Jetta is essentially a Golf Sedan, right? So for comparing boot space sedan vs hatch it should be a decent example.

VW states 527l for the Jetta, 350l for the Golf.

Sadly, the Figure for the Golf is limited by ISO/DIN to the boot cover thingy, just below the window line. I'd say you can pack at least an additional 50% to the roof, that would be 525l.
With five passengers they would have exactly the same boot space, if my 50% assumption is correct.
With only two passengers however the hatchback can easily flip the rear seats and make a huge space for luggage - the sedan can't.



PS: If I move the rear seats forward, usable with small kids, VW says my Fox can pack 353 up until under the window line 3l more than the Golf?

 

[jetsetter]

https://pic.armedcats.net/k/kn/knarkas/2009/11/30/2009-2010-ford-fiesta-sedan-guangzhou-auto-show-1.jpg

Yes? I believe it was said that the sedan is ugly. The differences between the Chinese version and the American version are minimal. As for the chrome.......some Americans like it so get over it.

 

[NecroJoe]

VW states 527l for the Jetta, 350l for the Golf.

Sadly, the Figure for the Golf is limited by ISO/DIN to the boot cover thingy, just below the window line. I'd say you can pack at least an additional 50% to the roof, that would be 525l.
With five passengers they would have exactly the same boot space, if my 50% assumption is correct.

Until you do anything more than whisper softly to your brake pedal, you'll end up with 2 passenders, and 3 passengers without heads as the stuff you stacked "above the window line" would also tumble over theseatback line.

 

[AiR]

Yes? I believe it was said that the sedan is ugly. The differences between the Chinese version and the American version are minimal. As for the chrome.......some Americans like it so get over it.

Just demonstrating that your theory that the sedan is ported from the Chinese market is incorrect.

 

[narf]

Until you do anything more than whisper softly to your brake pedal, you'll end up with 2 passenders, and 3 passengers without heads as the stuff you stacked "above the window line" would also tumble over theseatback line.

Depends on what you stack, and how. That's a different story though... there are ways of securing any kind of luggage as well, with nets and the like.



You'll at least agree with stacking to the headrests, right?
If there is no space between the headrests and the luggage and the luggage is made up of wide bits there won't be any impact.

 

[Lupin_IV]

With only two passengers however the hatchback can easily flip the rear seats and make a huge space for luggage - the sedan can't.

Just pile stuff up in the footwell and on the seats in the sedan, and you get the same additional space as folding the seats affords you in a hatchback.

 

[NecroJoe]

Yeah, but...where would i put my llama?

 

[narf]

Just pile stuff up in the footwell and on the seats in the sedan, and you get the same additional space as folding the seats affords you in a hatchback.

In terms of standardized 100x50x20mm liter cuboids, yes.

In terms of real-world luggage, no. Can't chop up that chest of drawers for example and store it in different parts of the car.

Yeah, but...where would i put my llama?

I'm sure it'll fit in an iQ.

 

[Cobol74]

Add more chrome, add it now!

 

[Mitlov]

https://pic.armedcats.net/k/kn/knarkas/2009/11/30/2009-2010-ford-fiesta-sedan-guangzhou-auto-show-1.jpg

The most attractive version of the Fiesta out of all of them, IMO. Between its looks and the Fiesta chassis, if I needed a subcompact car, a Chinese Fiesta sedan would be on the top of my list.

 

[Lupin_IV]

In terms of standardized 100x50x20mm liter cuboids, yes.

In terms of real-world luggage, no. Can't chop up that chest of drawers for example and store it in different parts of the car.

A chest of drawers wouldn't fit in anything I'd call a hatchback either; a station wagon, maybe, but not a hatchback.

 

[jetsetter]

Just demonstrating that your theory that the sedan is ported from the Chinese market is incorrect.

You did not prove my theory incorrect. It is the same sedan with some modifications.

 

[NecroJoe]

So...you can fit more things in a sedan, but larger items in a hatchback.
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[2Billion]

A chest of drawers wouldn't fit in anything I'd call a hatchback either; a station wagon, maybe, but not a hatchback.

I fit a chest of drawers in one of these:

With bits of a desk.
And a computer.
And a stereo.
And some clothes.

You were saying?