Concept: Jaguar cx-75 (or c-x75)

[nsx_23]

I think the overal shape is rather nice, but the headlight probably should be a tad smaller so it doesn't have that "stunned" look.

The more I look at it, the more I'm in love with the shape. Its beautiful.

 

[GRtak]

Long video is long.

 

[bone]

Depends on what the gearing is. Also, electric motors and batteries are not light.

but weight doesn't matter for top speed

i like the looks of it as well!

 

[otispunkmeyer]

80,000rpm turbines apparently

hopefully they are the awesome kind that use blisc's (bladed discs, the whole thing rotor shaft, disc and blades machine from one piece)

but damn they will be loud. we ran up a small jet turbine in the lab once, one of these ones you can get in some of the more expensive and powerful R/C aircraft and we had to put the ear muffs on it was so loud. also running a truck turbo to 120,000 rpm with compressed air is equally loud, but that was just a bare turbo.... venting into the room

 

[CrzRsn]

Awwww. Spectre hasn't found his way into this thread yet? I was expecting to get some mid-day entertainment out of it.

 

[argatoga]

Awwww. Spectre hasn't found his way into this thread yet? I was expecting to get some mid-day entertainment out of it.

You missed page one:

Depends on what the gearing is. Also, electric motors and batteries are not light.

I sort of like it. It's interesting that Callum has partially reverted to the earlier shapes and design language (which is good - perhaps due to pressure from angry customers and dealers?), but the Callum-signature front air ducts, goofy lights and the squared off side cooling ducts are jarring and don't really fit with the more organic remainder of the shape. The greenhouse needs a bit of tweaking, too - from the front quarter, the top looks like he borrowed it from the Mitsu Eclipse and that's not a good thing.

Still, a step in the right direction. I may not be forced to have mercenaries shoot the man - though I wonder how much of this was pure Callum and how much of it was Tata forcing him to design something more Jaguar-ish that would actually sell.

 

[JohnnyRacer]

Jaguar C-X75

Jaguar C-X75

Jaguar has made waves on the eve of the Paris motor show with a surprise ultra-low emissions supercar that could catapult it back into the rarefied market it left in 1994, when the 217mph XJ220 ended production.

The C-X75 pictured here has been unveiled to the world?s media at the Paris show?s press day today. Jaguar officially describes it as ?a commemoration of 75 years of Jaguar heritage, and a glimpse at the design cues and technology that will characterise our cars in the future.?

See the official pics of the Jaguar C-X75 concept - now including new Paris show pics
But internally, as Autocar can reveal, Jaguar considers the car almost wholly realistic for production and it has ambitions to bring it to the road, relaunching Jaguar as a powerful, forward-looking force in the supercar world.

?With the current XK, XF and XJ, we?ve refreshed and enhanced the public?s perception of the Jaguar brand,? explained deputy design director Julian Thomson. ?The time?s right for us to push on again. To make people aware that we can make an even more exotic and special kind of car ? a true supercar that?s sustainable and future-proof, and that also combines performance, luxury and beauty in a way that only a Jaguar can.?
Chas Hallett blog: Jag's show stunner should go on sale tomorrow

What makes the C-X75 particularly remarkable is its experimental powertrain. Powering this 4.6m-long, 205mph, two-seat berlinetta are four 195bhp electric motors, one at each wheel. They give a combined 780bhp and 1180lb ft of torque, and provide for zero-emissions running, dynamics-enhancing torque vectoring, and pace that even an XJ220 couldn?t match: 0-62mph in 3.4sec, 0-100mph in 5.5sec and 0-186mph in a Veyron-beating 15.7sec.

?The electric powertrain gave us total freedom to give the C-X75 absolutely perfect stance and proportion,? said Thomson. ?In conventional supercars, you?re hampered by accommodating a large piston engine, but using four relatively small electric motors instead meant we could keep the car low to the ground and put the driver precisely in the middle of the wheelbase, right where you?d ideally like to be.?
Jaguar design chief Ian Callum is already on record with his view that this car is the most beautiful Jaguar that the company has ever produced ? prettier, even, than the 1966 XJ13 prototype racer.

He said: ?The C-X75 is as close to a pure art form as a concept car can get.? Its grille and headlights, and pure fuselage-like body surfaces, are also a clue towards the looks of Jaguar?s next XK, and its often-rumoured smaller sports car.
The C-X75 is no strict EV but a range-extended plug-in hybrid of an unprecedented sort. It has an electric-only range of 68 miles, but backing this up is a pair of miniature gas turbines mounted behind the cabin that could be run on diesel, biofuel, compressed natural gas or LPG.

The turbines produce 188bhp (140kw) of electrical power spinning at 80,000rpm. This can be used either to supplement the output of the car?s lithium-ion batteries or to recharge them on the run and extend the car?s cruising range to a theoretical 560-mile maximum.

The turbines, made by UK specialist Bladon Jets, are still experimental and have never been integrated into a working production car. Capable of swallowing more than 1000 litres of air per second between them, and running very high exhaust temperatures, their suitability for this kind of application remains to be proven. However, their size and efficiency made them particularly attractive to Thomson?s team.
?The turbines are a designer?s dream,? he told us. ?They?re compact, efficient and much lower maintenance than a piston engine. They also give us the opportunity to give the C-X75 active aerodynamics.? In Jaguar?s vision for the car, the turbines? hot exhaust gas could, at the flick of a switch, be channelled under the C-X75 and past its large underbody venturi, increasing downforce on demand.
?The turbines are also magnificent to look at,? Thomson said. ?They?ve provided an aeronautical inspiration for the styling of the C-X75, which is a perfect match for Jaguar.?

The experimental supercar has 21in and 22in alloy wheels and air vents designed to mimic its turbines? look. It also has a jet-fighter-like roof-mounted control panel, an aircraft throttle-style gear selector, and interior door handles situated between the occupants? legs, designed like ejection handles.

Underpinning the C-X75 is a bonded aluminium chassis similar to the one used in Jaguar?s current production range and it contributes to a low overall kerb weight of 1350kg.

Cabin highlights include gimbal-style LCD instruments, fixed seats, an adjustable pedal box, steering column and instrument panel, and Bowers & Wilkins hi-fi nano speakers hidden behind perforated wave-formed door panels.
Matt Saunders

 

[BlaRo]

inb4 spectre "i h8 ian callum" rant

 

[argatoga]

Dup post. Come on it was on the first page of Automotive News.

http://forums.finalgear.com/automotive-news/jaguar-cx-75-or-c-x75-46119/

inb4 spectre "i h8 ian callum" rant

Not quite from the first thread:

I sort of love the fucking Hell of it!!!!111one It's interesting that Callum has partially become a living god.

 

[katwalk]

It looks like a spaceship, I like spaceships.
This is irrelevant though because I doubt they would ever build it.

 

[edkwon]

Nobody has recycled the old Top Gear 'Yet another Jaguar concept that will never be built' joke. Bravo for not giving in *claps*

 

[JohnnyRacer]

Dup post. Come on it was on the first page of Automotive News.

http://forums.finalgear.com/automotive-news/jaguar-cx-75-or-c-x75-46119/




Not quite from the first thread:

The search function failed me.

 

[Canuck]

I don't care who designed it, it's FUGLY.

 

[narf]

Thats battery only, using the 2 turbines bring it up to 968bhp.

195bhp electric motor per wheel with torque vectoring + two gas turbines provide 94bhp turbines.

It also has thrust vectoring from the turbine exhausts. Kind of like a harrier, or f-22 raptor.

Adding the electric motors' power with the turbines' power doesn't work. Imagine a car with a series of ICE - generator - electric motor - generator - electric motor - generator - electric motor - wheels. You can't add those seven things up in power either. If the electric motors put out just under 200hp each then it does not matter how much power the turbines produce to charge the batteries, the electric motors will still put out just under 200hp each.


Where did you get the thrust vectoring from?

 

[Strelok16]

The threads should be merged because of the new pics though. I actually like it more after seeing the shots of it on display.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Looks unmistakably jaguar. Something Jag's of recent have failed to deliver...

 

[zthomasz]

Adding the electric motors' power with the turbines' power doesn't work. Imagine a car with a series of ICE - generator - electric motor - generator - electric motor - generator - electric motor - wheels. You can't add those seven things up in power either. If the electric motors put out just under 200hp each then it does not matter how much power the turbines produce to charge the batteries, the electric motors will still put out just under 200hp each.

Seriously? You are seriously attempting to correct me? I quite clearly gave the source as EVO, take it up with them.

A 968bhp, 205mph, electric and turbine-propelled supercar. And it's a Jaguar. Full details and pictures of the staggering C-X75........................Each wheel gets its own 195bhp electric motor (so effectively the C-X75 is all-wheel drive, and it gets clever torque-vectoring technology too) while two gas turbines provide 94bhp each. Those either top up the batteries that power the electric motors or, during harder driving, provide extra power in order to hit those awe-inspiring performance figures. -Evo

Where did you get the thrust vectoring from?

It was a joke.

 

[SpitfireMK461]

It looks like a spaceship, I like spaceships.
This is irrelevant though because I doubt they would ever build it.

I wouldn't be too hasty.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/10/07/jaguar-c-x75-concept-production-possible/

Of Course They Are: Jaguar reportedly investigating C-X75 production

Remember the Jaguar C-X75 Concept at the Paris Motor Show? Of course you do. The company repeatedly said it was "a pure concept" that wouldn't ever learn what the word "production" meant. Well, along with Galileo, Jaguar is reportedly joining the list of those who took it all back ? well, almost ? by admitting it's studying the production feasibility of what would become the X-75.

The stats again: Two 96-horsepower micro gas turbines powering batteries which in turn feed a quartet of 195-hp electric motors at the wheels for a shuddering 780 hp and 1,187 pound-feet, a 3.4-second run to 62 miles per hour, a top speed of 205 mph, an electric range of 68 miles and a range-extended blast of 560 miles. Autocar says that although Jag is studying only making 1,000 or 2,000 per year and could charge a fortune for every one of them, it's those turbines that could decide ? or more likely, terminate ? the car's fate.

See, Jag doesn't want to stick a plain old combustion engine in it. Otherwise it would have to be redesigned because the turbines' small footprint don't allow room for what would need to be a very powerful V8 or a large V12. Even though the company says developing the turbines for production would cost less than doing so for an ICE, it will take up to eight years to get them ready ? for even a low-volume item. Of course, we can't imagine Jaguar is going to stand up at the 2016 Paris Auto Show and declare "The six-year-old concept car you loved in 2010 will be here in two more years! Get ready!" As far as we're concerned, we're happy to imagine gas turbines coming in some kind of Jaguar at some kind of date, whenever it is.

If I were rich, I would be making a donation to Jaguar to make this car right now. Who wouldn't want a supercar with two jet engines in it.

I'd especially enjoy the experience if we could get some Mach diamonds out the exhausts.

 

[shad_68]

Turbine =/= Jet Engine, fyi.

 

[smib]

Tank or train engine would be less inaccurate.