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Bingo. Now what are the estimates? :D
 
Weeelll, if you say one of the 3ft/Earth is pretty close then I'd say the 3ft is close but too large - my guess is compress Earth to an inch.
6000km for the Sun is way too much, maybe 1km?
 
Schwarzschild radius of an Earth-mass black hole: 8.9 mm
Schwarzschild radius of a Sun-mass black hole: 2.95 km
 
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narf said:
Weeelll, if you say one of the 3ft/Earth is pretty close then I'd say the 3ft is close but too large - my guess is compress Earth to an inch.
6000km for the Sun is way too much, maybe 1km?
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I'll give you ballpark/order-of-magnitude but it's still somewhat off for both.

RaptorJesus said:
Earth->Pea

Sun->Tennisball
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Definitely not that small, but that doesn't mean they won't become BHs at that point. We're asking for the maximum radius (minimum compression).

chaos386 said:
Schwarzschild radius of an Earth-mass black hole: 8.9 mm
Schwarzschild radius of a Sun-mass black hole: 2.95 km
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Wa-bam.
 
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For anyone curious, the appropriate google search to have it calculate the Schwarzschild radius is "2 * 6.67e-11 m^3 kg^-1 s^-2 * <mass of object> / c^2" :D
 
chaos386 said:
For anyone curious, the appropriate google search to have it calculate the Schwarzschild radius is "2 * 6.67e-11 m^3 kg^-1 s^-2 * <mass of object> / c^2" :D
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You can replace 6.67E-11 m^3 kg^01 s^-2 with "G" :D

Yes, google understands "g" and "G". Well, at least "G". That's how I did all my homeworks :lol:

You can also type "Mass of Earth" and "Mass of sun".

So for the Sun, here's the link: Clickification


Edit: "g"... aka lowercase g aka gravitational acceleration is not recognized directly by google because "g" as in "grams" takes precedence. So 5g * 2 comes out as 10 grams. To do gravity just type "gravity on earth".
 
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HURP DERP
 
narf said:
That would result in a greater density for the Sun-tennisball than for the Earth-pea... but it needs to be the other way round, the greater the mass the lower the density required to form a black hole.
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Yeah I was just spitballing a guess, I'm no astrophysics buff.
 
It must be asteroid week on the BBC. :lol:

BBC Documentary ? Horizon: Asteroids - The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
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Famed for their ability to inflict Armageddon from outer space, asteroids are now revealing the secrets of how they are responsible for both life and death on our planet.

Armed with an array of powerful telescopes, scientists are finding up to 3000 new asteroids every night. And some are heading our way.

But astronomers have discovered that it's not the giant rocks that are the greatest danger - it's the small asteroids that pose a more immediate threat to Earth.

Researchers have explained the photon propulsion that propels these rocks across space, and have discovered that some asteroids are carrying a mysterious cargo of frost and ice across the solar system that could have helped start life on earth.
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Professor Dave Jewitt of UCLA, explains the presence of the comet like trail of asteroid Elst Pizarro and the possible consequences for water and hence life formation on earth.
This is ?the good? asteroid in the program title.

After the late discovery in 2008 of this asteroid and it?s earth impact in the Nubian desert less than 24 hours later. This was a small object of up to 5 meters size and an explosive force of 1 to 2 kilotons, but was very hard to detect. The program also showed a reappraisal of the Tunguska impact event of 1906.
The Nubian impact is ?the bad? asteroid in the program title.

A very interesting documentary, worth looking out for around the internet.

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Microchip Implant Restores Partial Sight
For the first time, scientists have restored the ability of previously blind patients to recognize letters, fruit and other items using light-sensitive microchips implanted in the inner surface of the eye.

One patient was able to read the hands of a clock, discern seven shades of gray, find and identify tableware and combine the letters of the alphabet to form words.

The microchip is only approximately 3 millimeters by 3 millimeters in size, but is loaded with 1,500 light detectors that send a grid of electrical impulses through a patient's nerves to generate a 1,500-pixel image. The device is implanted under the retina, the inner lining of the eye unlike other implants that sit outside the retina and require users to wear an external camera. Since the chip requires a sharp image, the patients wear reading glasses. [Image of implant in eye]

The implant, a product of 15 years of research, essentially replaces degenerated rod and cone cells in the retina of patients suffering from diseases such as retinitis pigmentosa, a group of inherited diseases that afflict 1 in 4,000 people across the world and is characterized by poor night vision and slow loss of peripheral vision. A thin wire snakes from inside the eye to its edge and then under the skin to a spot behind the ear, where patients can attach a cord linked to a control box that supplies power. Patients can also use the control box to adjust the brightness and contrast of images.

In the pilot study, 11 patients received an implant, all of whom had been blind for two to 15 years due to hereditary retinal dystrophy. Five of the 11 patients were able to recognize and localize sources of light or large, whitish objects. The last three had the chip implanted in the macula, the spot in the retina that normally has the sharpest vision, and after a week were able to see shapes and objects. The final patient was able to correctly identify apples and bananas [Video], read the time from a large clock and recognize individual letters and words within two to three weeks of implantation.

"There was a time when that one patient rediscovered his hand and was just fascinated by it, moved his fingers and took them apart, turned his hand over and looked at the movement of his thumb," researcher Eberhart Zrenner, a neuro-ophthalmologist at the University of Tuebingen in Germany, told LiveScience.

"The visual results they were able to achieve were, up until now, thought to be in the realms of science fiction," said ophthalmologist Robert MacLaren at the University of Oxford in England, who will implant the chip in the first patients in the United Kingdom. "The recent work by Professor Zrenner and his team in successfully testing this electronic retinal implant in blind people is without doubt a significant advance in this technology," said MacLaren, who was not involved in Zrenner's study.

Not all blind patients will benefit from this device, including cases where the optic nerve or brain damage is involved, or where the retina is ruined or has insufficient blood flow. Zrenner also cautioned that this work is still in progress, and they are still refining where best to implant the device and learning which patients might benefit most. "It's important not to raise false hope," he stressed. "It will be a while before there is a reliable, marketable device."

The first devices had to be removed after three months, since they used wires that could not be left inside the body indefinitely. A Europe-wide multi-center study with 25 more patients has now begun with an improved version of the implant that can be left inside permanently.

"Already I've had a patient from the Netherlands, who is going to marry his girlfriend and had never seen her before, tell me he saw her laughing," Zrenner said. The patient, he added, could tell she was laughing from her white teeth.

The scientists detailed their findings online Nov. 3 in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B.
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http://www.livescience.com/health/retina-microchips-implant-restore-vision-101102.html
 
Has anyone got a subscription to nature? I've been tossing around the idea of subscribing for a while now, but I'm not sure how technical the articles are so I don't know if I'll be able to understand them.
 
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