Lightning Count
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It's more of a timing thing for these PRIDE gfuys, look at when they had their best days.
Big Nog 2000 - 2008 - By this time he'd already fought and beaten, Cro Cop, Josh Barnett, Dan Henderson, Sylvia (who was top 5 at HW at the time), Werdum, Heath Herring (was a top guy who was considered a phenom when they first fought years ago), Mark Coleman (Still a very legit guy back in 2001), Sergei Kharitonov and many many others. Plus the cage favours wrestling.
I actually like the cage, but cannot deny that the UFC rule system favours wrestling based competitors and it's a credit to Big Nog that he beat so many great wrestlers.
Also to stay Objective let's at the top UFC guys from 2007 when they bought PRIDE.
HW - Randy Couture - Ah yes the natural, defying father time to take the belt from Sylvia and defend it against Gonzaga, would later abscond with the belt for more than a year while chasing a fight with Fedor. Eventually came back and lost to Lesnar, then Nogueira, he beat Vera in a questionable decision, beat Coleman, then faced James Toney of all people. Toney may not have belonged in the Octagon but I was happy to see him lose. Apparently now interested in novelty fights.
LHW Champion - Chuck Liddell - Has only won a single fight since 2007 when Rampage smashed him, everybody save for Jardine finished him. Oh and lest we forget it's in PRIDE that Rampage made his name, he beat Chuck in a fight in PRIDE as well.
MW Champion - Anderson Silva - this guy is an exception, he is literally superhuman. He's beaten pretty much everyone there is to beat, only Chael Sonnen has made him look human. Has fought in multiple orgs over and smashed pretty much everyone save for a few early submission losses. He dominated in Shooto and the UFC. PRIDE stars face - Dan Henderson, defeated him via sub.
WW - GSP - still young very rarely get hurts and fast approaching his prime asides from Blips against Serra and Hughes, he's looked unstoppable. No real PRIDE stars in this division as it is dominated by wrestlers who GSP routinely destroys. GSP is UFC through and through.
LW - This was when the UFC finally came to its sense for a while they didn't have a 155 division but since then it has come on leaps and bounds, only PRIDE name to come over is Gomi who is 1-2.
Big Nog 2000 - 2008 - By this time he'd already fought and beaten, Cro Cop, Josh Barnett, Dan Henderson, Sylvia (who was top 5 at HW at the time), Werdum, Heath Herring (was a top guy who was considered a phenom when they first fought years ago), Mark Coleman (Still a very legit guy back in 2001), Sergei Kharitonov and many many others. Plus the cage favours wrestling.
I actually like the cage, but cannot deny that the UFC rule system favours wrestling based competitors and it's a credit to Big Nog that he beat so many great wrestlers.
Also to stay Objective let's at the top UFC guys from 2007 when they bought PRIDE.
HW - Randy Couture - Ah yes the natural, defying father time to take the belt from Sylvia and defend it against Gonzaga, would later abscond with the belt for more than a year while chasing a fight with Fedor. Eventually came back and lost to Lesnar, then Nogueira, he beat Vera in a questionable decision, beat Coleman, then faced James Toney of all people. Toney may not have belonged in the Octagon but I was happy to see him lose. Apparently now interested in novelty fights.
LHW Champion - Chuck Liddell - Has only won a single fight since 2007 when Rampage smashed him, everybody save for Jardine finished him. Oh and lest we forget it's in PRIDE that Rampage made his name, he beat Chuck in a fight in PRIDE as well.
MW Champion - Anderson Silva - this guy is an exception, he is literally superhuman. He's beaten pretty much everyone there is to beat, only Chael Sonnen has made him look human. Has fought in multiple orgs over and smashed pretty much everyone save for a few early submission losses. He dominated in Shooto and the UFC. PRIDE stars face - Dan Henderson, defeated him via sub.
WW - GSP - still young very rarely get hurts and fast approaching his prime asides from Blips against Serra and Hughes, he's looked unstoppable. No real PRIDE stars in this division as it is dominated by wrestlers who GSP routinely destroys. GSP is UFC through and through.
LW - This was when the UFC finally came to its sense for a while they didn't have a 155 division but since then it has come on leaps and bounds, only PRIDE name to come over is Gomi who is 1-2.
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