2011 Formula 1 Season Thread

Since Renault use the same engine, would they have the same engine mapping? Or is that up to the indiviudal team?
 
Should be up to each team.

The mapping only is half the story, the layout of the exhaust / undertray / diffuser is extremely important. For instance, some systems may achieve (lower) peak effect with low fuel consumption, while some other systems might have higher peak effect but have to use much more fuel to achieve that.


Obviously, I'm just babbling here - :dunno: for sure, of course :lol: if I did I'd be in Monaco now curing my hangover.
 
Why do you just have to be just a troll? *headdesk* I actually had hope for you as your post quality was improving, but...

Kekekek I couldn't resist XD

BUT, it is what I do think. The pair seem more frustrated than motivated. Well I guess except for butts since hes always the cool guy....>.>

Oh and webber MUST be frustrated too....
 
Why do you just have to be just a troll? *headdesk* I actually had hope for you as your post quality was improving, but...

lmao, don't tell me you had your hopes up high on a noob that will only post something along the lines of "ZOMG WTF IM ANGRY VETTEL WON AGAIN!?!?!!"

Over 90% of his posts are either meaningless, cap locks + 4chan talk, pure trolling, or venting out his frustration on RB and Vettel, in a childish way.
 
I could see how maybe adjusting the engine map to blow more exhaust out maybe could be it, but I doubt that its the only thing. I mean, there is nothing stopping anyone else from throwing a set of hardcore qualifying engine maps in and then changing it on race day. I guess it only seems to be taking less then a 1/10th to do beat the others, but I just don't see an engine map doing that byself, blown exhaust or not.

Speaking of Hamilton getting flustered....see the interview with Lee McKenzie during the post race forum on BBC. I'm rather a fan of Hamilton (prefer Button then Weber, but Lewis comes in third), but he came off as a whiny bitch that lacks humility in that interview. I am least glad that there was a slight tongue and cheek tone to the "cause I'm black" comment...


For some reason I think he might have been holding that in for a bit, but it should have stayed where it was till he got back to the apartment and not on internationally syndicated TV/Radio/Internet. Not so good for you image aye?
 
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Since Renault use the same engine, would they have the same engine mapping? Or is that up to the indiviudal team?

Actually, this is something I've always wondered about. Do the works cars have an advantage in that they can use data that other teams have gathered? Are the engines themselves all exactly the same or would Torro Rosso be using an older version than the one found in a Ferrari this year? I know that engine development is currently frozen but I presume that little tweaks here and there can be done. I also can't imagine that the same amount of passion will go into the creation of engines for other teams than for themselves.
 
I reckon it's a combination of bad timing and appalling race results. He was frustrated at the time, especially after a crap race and harassed by the press / lee mckenzie with a stupid question like "Why do you think you're so magnetic to the stewards". He made a joke which wasn't very funny, and because it was used in the wrong moment of the situation, people didn't appreciate the cynical remark.

I still reckon it was supremely arrogant for Hamilton to bash other drivers by calling them idiots.
 
I could see how maybe adjusting the engine map to blow more exhaust out maybe could be it, but I doubt that its the only thing. I mean, there is nothing stopping anyone else from throwing a set of hardcore qualifying engine maps in and then changing it on race day. I guess it only seems to be taking less then a 1/10th to do beat the others, but I just don't see an engine map doing that byself, blown exhaust or not.

Speaking of Hamilton getting flustered....see the interview with Lee McKenzie during the post race forum on BBC. I'm rather a fan of Hamilton (prefer Button then Weber, but Lewis comes in third), but he came off as a whiny bitch that lacks humility in that interview. I am least glad that there was a slight tongue and cheek tone to the "cause I'm black" comment...


For some reason I think he might have been holding that in for a bit, but it should have stayed where it was till he got back to the apartment and not on internationally syndicated TV/Radio/Internet. Not so good for you image aye?

Of course it was totally uncalled for and distasteful, but I liked that he wasn't the PR drone that he always is for once. I'd like to see some more honest reactions from the driver rather than the regular "the car was good, we had some problems, there's a long way to go, we worked hard" and all that crap that we hear every single interview. Kind of defeats the purpose of an interview when we know what the people have to say.
 
From this picture one thing is quite intriguing as the difference in speed from the car being overtaken and the one doing the overtaking.
http://img857.imageshack.**/img857/3797/hamiltonmonacoturn1b.jpg

You can clearly see Hamilton was well behind Schumacher on the first shot, while he was alongside Maldonado
Then at the turn, he was alongside Schumacher already which shows Hamilton was much faster, while on the other scenario, he's still basically at the same place relative to Maldonado, which means both cars had the same speed...
As racecraft goes I think that move was never gonna stick, and Hamilton should have aborted it.
 
Of course it was totally uncalled for and distasteful, but I liked that he wasn't the PR drone that he always is for once. I'd like to see some more honest reactions from the driver rather than the regular "the car was good, we had some problems, there's a long way to go, we worked hard" and all that crap that we hear every single interview. Kind of defeats the purpose of an interview when we know what the people have to say.

I agree with you on that, but he could have done it in a much less whiny way. Makes me want Kimi back in the mix. I loved how flippant he was about stuff and had no problem with telling it how it is. I don't have a problem and actually prefer an open interview, but he wasn't being honest or taking any of the blame and just put it off on the rest of the field being "idiots".

Some days I think it would be neat to just get rid of the chicane in turn one and make it a wider turn.Plenty of room and it would make for a ton more passing. Might be a bit interesting with the cars coming out of the pits though. The results would definitely have been different if it was two cars wide all the way to Casino Square.
 
From this picture one thing is quite intriguing as the difference in speed from the car being overtaken and the one doing the overtaking.
http://img857.imageshack.**/img857/3797/hamiltonmonacoturn1b.jpg

You can clearly see Hamilton was well behind Schumacher on the first shot, while he was alongside Maldonado
Then at the turn, he was alongside Schumacher already which shows Hamilton was much faster, while on the other scenario, he's still basically at the same place relative to Maldonado, which means both cars had the same speed...
As racecraft goes I think that move was never gonna stick, and Hamilton should have aborted it.

From the other image on that blog, it is shown that maldonado turns in super early. I think its maldonados amateurism (in comparison to MS obviously) that caused him to panic a bit and turn in early.

Another scenario I think is possible is PM checking his mirrors before the corner, noticing LH almost a car length back and deciding to take an early line to close the gap; not expecting LH to dive up on the inside.

With MS, he probably expected LH to come flying out of nowhere so he just gave the position up. (also considering all the dumb accidents he's been in the past few GPs, he probably didn't want another one).
 
It's not hard to see the situation interpreted as Maldonado defending his position and Hamilton pushing too far, which is how the stewards saw it, so all I'm saying is their decision can be understood. I think it was a token penalty given it wouldn't affect Hamilton at all, but more of a warning for future gung-ho adventures.
 
I won't be able to attend the Canadian F1 GP as a marshal this year :(

Was so looking forward to that. Oh well, I'll do it next year, and at least it's for a good reason (trip to Romania to attend my best friend's wedding).
 
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